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[Showmatch] Sziky vs Pusan[S.G] - Page 7

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7011 Posts
May 28 2012 16:31 GMT
#121
ye and forget sayle... we need send him stephano replays to cast now -_-;;
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
May 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#122
I dont think Skizy can win. Pusan progamer
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
May 28 2012 16:50 GMT
#123
On May 29 2012 01:47 Heathen wrote:
I dont think Skizy can win. Pusan progamer


So is turn and he lost to a protoss with 3 probe.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
May 28 2012 16:54 GMT
#124
I really don't understand how people are angry about this 0.o A slight communication problem, and it will be shown in a few days. Everyone involved is doing their best and as for casting times, I'm often very busy during the week as I'm sure many of you are. Time zone differences can really compound that problem.

Just chill- a few extra days to watch an awesome event, which is organised entirely for you, for free, and for the love of BW, is really neither here nor there. It's just mad to get cross about it.
EleGant[AoV]
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 28 2012 16:59 GMT
#125
On May 29 2012 01:54 ImbaTosS wrote:
I really don't understand how people are angry about this 0.o A slight communication problem, and it will be shown in a few days. Everyone involved is doing their best and as for casting times, I'm often very busy during the week as I'm sure many of you are. Time zone differences can really compound that problem.

Just chill- a few extra days to watch an awesome event, which is organised entirely for you, for free, and for the love of BW, is really neither here nor there. It's just mad to get cross about it.


I dont think anyone is mad, just overly excited. A foreigner vs a former BW god? When have we ever seen anything like this? I cant recall a single time, and just remember how excited people were for the estro b-teamers games ...
PLEASE CAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SINCE IM DYING :D
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 17:06:16
May 28 2012 17:01 GMT
#126
On May 29 2012 01:03 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 23:54 Hyeon wrote:
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.

If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.

This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.


My request? What? Really?
I never asked bgvrt / pusan to put password on stream. I even don't know who bgvrt, just saw him restreams some afreeca channels. Also, i was watching Pusan's stream and observing. But there was no password, then how could i watch it? Because i'm korean? Don't get me wrong.

Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today...

Seriously, if you are a friend of bgvrt tell him to say truth, not trying to make dramas.

I'll ask Sayle to do this or when he replies or Hacklebeast/EleGant when they answer.

I'm sure you, defi, the casters, and everyone else included in making this event happen want as many people to watch this as possible. For that goal, providing the fans easy access to it is just as important as making the showmatch happen.

What you should be doing:

      - Agree with the casters on a casting date beforehand! (It looks like this didn't happen)

      - Make that date publicly available, and advertise well in advance so people can prepare!

      - Make it clear if there's going to be a live stream or not! If there is no live cast, then people don't care about when the games are played. The fact that you told us when are the games played made people expect a livestream of some sorts, that's why we went to bgvrt, because that was the only stream we were told about by anyone! It was your shortcomings that enabled any misunderstanding to happen in the first place!
(Were you watching Pusan on afreeca? In that case the answer to your question is yes, only Koreans can watch streams there. If it wasn't on afreeca, then the question is once again - why didn't you tell everyone about that stream?)

The fact that some restream was password protected is just a small problem here. The bigger problem is that you're not providing an easy way for people to follow this event. Agree beforehand with the casters about the cast date, and advertise that date well in advance (try to add it to the BW calendar if you're serious about it), and link a stream in the original post when it is live.

In my eyes, that is the most senseful and beneficial way to organize this, anything less doesn't do justice to the epicness of such a showmatch!

I truly appreciate your efforts, I'm just trying to help with my suggestions!


First of all, thank you for your suggestions. I should organize clearly next time, dunno if Defi's going to ask me more.

Secondly, i didn't watch Pusan's stream for fun but to know what he says about sziky and how many koreans watch Pusan's stream. I could have just observer and watch replays after the showmatches if for fun.
Actually, ninazerg put this(date of the cast) + Show Spoiler +
To be determined; later that day, most likely
, i should have told her that it will be casted this weekend. I think she mentioned "later that day" because last time, Draw casted after ICC-CL which is 2hrs after the showmatch between Sziky and Han. And all i said was "hope bgvrt or kjcwj don't stream" and said "Anyhow you know the results, please don't be a spoiler". I didn't push anyone not to stream Pusan's.

Anyway, My bad i wasn't clear to ninazerg about the casting dates.

But what i feel bad is, you REALLY heard bgvrt saying "Organizer asked me to stop streaming or put password"? Seriously? He really told you what you just wrote? If not, at least you should say sorry or make an appology.

EDIT
I asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to cast it on this weekend(June 2nd or 3rd) because of timezone and considering their own schedules.
oO
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
May 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#127
Announcement

Hacklebeast will cast on this Wednesday, 18CET @ http://twitch.tv/hacklebeast.
Hopefully EleGant would join if he's okay..



And sorry guys, about the casting time. Will be clear from next showmatch :/
Message me if there's any suggestions, recommendations.
oO
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
May 28 2012 17:36 GMT
#128
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ACCUMULATED 24496 at last
oO
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 28 2012 18:07 GMT
#129
On May 29 2012 02:01 Hyeon wrote:
But what i feel bad is, you REALLY heard bgvrt saying "Organizer asked me to stop streaming or put password"? Seriously? He really told you what you just wrote? If not, at least you should say sorry or make an appology.

My memory is faded by now, but I wrote that post immediately after having the conversation with him, so I don't think I misremembered what he said. (I asked in the chat "why is the stream password-protected in the first place?")
As gutshot added/corrected me earlier:
On May 29 2012 00:48 gutshot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.

If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.

This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.


Bgvrt didn't say it was at the organizer's request but it was rather for not spoiling the results

I agree with the other part that the playtime shouldn't have been announced if streaming was not available at the same time

I also recall him adding it was to avoid spoilers, but all in all, he still clearly gave me the impression that it wasnt his idea but he was asked to do so.

With all that said, it's not impossible that there has been a misunderstanding between us, I do apologize if that's the case.
BW fighting!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7011 Posts
May 28 2012 18:16 GMT
#130
Whatever bvgrt was streaming pusan fpview. im ok with the new date streaming. SZIKY MONSTAAA
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 28 2012 18:32 GMT
#131
On May 29 2012 02:15 Hyeon wrote:
Announcement

Hacklebeast will cast on this Wednesday, 18CET @ http://twitch.tv/hacklebeast.
Hopefully EleGant would join if he's okay..



And sorry guys, about the casting time. Will be clear from next showmatch :/
Message me if there's any suggestions, recommendations.


SORRY? You are amazing, I love you, and I love you. Nothing more. Imma take the week of to prepare for this!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
May 28 2012 19:55 GMT
#132
Can't wait to watch this. Love Pusan.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
May 28 2012 21:28 GMT
#133
On May 29 2012 01:59 Skeggaba wrote:
I dont think anyone is mad, just overly excited. A foreigner vs a former BW god? When have we ever seen anything like this? I cant recall a single time


You mean besides every year at WCG?

Anyway, I just got home so I didn't see the Skype messages until too late. Looks like you guys got it sorted anyway.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
May 28 2012 22:07 GMT
#134
On May 29 2012 06:28 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:59 Skeggaba wrote:
I dont think anyone is mad, just overly excited. A foreigner vs a former BW god? When have we ever seen anything like this? I cant recall a single time


You mean besides every year at WCG?

Anyway, I just got home so I didn't see the Skype messages until too late. Looks like you guys got it sorted anyway.


I was thinking about the format mostly; foreigners rarely gets more than one game against the koreans. Im not saying that Pusan is Bisu, but he is an absolute legend, at least in my book.
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 28 2012 22:15 GMT
#135
On May 29 2012 06:28 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:59 Skeggaba wrote:
I dont think anyone is mad, just overly excited. A foreigner vs a former BW god? When have we ever seen anything like this? I cant recall a single time


You mean besides every year at WCG?

Anyway, I just got home so I didn't see the Skype messages until too late. Looks like you guys got it sorted anyway.


Yeah, it was recently when uhh...Infernal played Flash or something. Happens a lot. Doesn't make it any less exciting though.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 28 2012 23:18 GMT
#136
On May 29 2012 07:15 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 06:28 Sayle wrote:
On May 29 2012 01:59 Skeggaba wrote:
I dont think anyone is mad, just overly excited. A foreigner vs a former BW god? When have we ever seen anything like this? I cant recall a single time


You mean besides every year at WCG?

Anyway, I just got home so I didn't see the Skype messages until too late. Looks like you guys got it sorted anyway.


Yeah, it was recently when uhh...Infernal played Flash or something. Happens a lot. Doesn't make it any less exciting though.

Didn't Flash use something similar to how Fantasy plays? It was ridiculous.
kiss kiss fall in love
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2012 02:15 GMT
#137
so it's time to start taking out Korean progamers.

Wait is Pusan still an active progamer? I thought he retired for a bit to coach but is now half-coaching and half-playing.
kiss kiss fall in love
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 29 2012 02:28 GMT
#138
pusan is active ladder (as in he will play almost every week ) but he's still in great shape, I am glad that hacklebeast will stream on wednesday so I have a chance to view this
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 29 2012 04:44 GMT
#139
On May 29 2012 02:01 Hyeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:03 538 wrote:
On May 28 2012 23:54 Hyeon wrote:
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.

If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.

This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.


My request? What? Really?
I never asked bgvrt / pusan to put password on stream. I even don't know who bgvrt, just saw him restreams some afreeca channels. Also, i was watching Pusan's stream and observing. But there was no password, then how could i watch it? Because i'm korean? Don't get me wrong.

Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today...

Seriously, if you are a friend of bgvrt tell him to say truth, not trying to make dramas.

I'll ask Sayle to do this or when he replies or Hacklebeast/EleGant when they answer.

I'm sure you, defi, the casters, and everyone else included in making this event happen want as many people to watch this as possible. For that goal, providing the fans easy access to it is just as important as making the showmatch happen.

What you should be doing:

      - Agree with the casters on a casting date beforehand! (It looks like this didn't happen)

      - Make that date publicly available, and advertise well in advance so people can prepare!

      - Make it clear if there's going to be a live stream or not! If there is no live cast, then people don't care about when the games are played. The fact that you told us when are the games played made people expect a livestream of some sorts, that's why we went to bgvrt, because that was the only stream we were told about by anyone! It was your shortcomings that enabled any misunderstanding to happen in the first place!
(Were you watching Pusan on afreeca? In that case the answer to your question is yes, only Koreans can watch streams there. If it wasn't on afreeca, then the question is once again - why didn't you tell everyone about that stream?)

The fact that some restream was password protected is just a small problem here. The bigger problem is that you're not providing an easy way for people to follow this event. Agree beforehand with the casters about the cast date, and advertise that date well in advance (try to add it to the BW calendar if you're serious about it), and link a stream in the original post when it is live.

In my eyes, that is the most senseful and beneficial way to organize this, anything less doesn't do justice to the epicness of such a showmatch!

I truly appreciate your efforts, I'm just trying to help with my suggestions!


First of all, thank you for your suggestions. I should organize clearly next time, dunno if Defi's going to ask me more.

Secondly, i didn't watch Pusan's stream for fun but to know what he says about sziky and how many koreans watch Pusan's stream. I could have just observer and watch replays after the showmatches if for fun.
Actually, ninazerg put this(date of the cast) + Show Spoiler +
To be determined; later that day, most likely
, i should have told her that it will be casted this weekend. I think she mentioned "later that day" because last time, Draw casted after ICC-CL which is 2hrs after the showmatch between Sziky and Han. And all i said was "hope bgvrt or kjcwj don't stream" and said "Anyhow you know the results, please don't be a spoiler". I didn't push anyone not to stream Pusan's.

Anyway, My bad i wasn't clear to ninazerg about the casting dates.

But what i feel bad is, you REALLY heard bgvrt saying "Organizer asked me to stop streaming or put password"? Seriously? He really told you what you just wrote? If not, at least you should say sorry or make an appology.

EDIT
I asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to cast it on this weekend(June 2nd or 3rd) because of timezone and considering their own schedules.


I don't think you can really fault yourself for not knowing the casting date because the match was so last-minute (That's the way BroodWar stuff should be done!) but now you have a date and time, so everything is going to be okay.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
May 29 2012 18:59 GMT
#140
This tonight? hope i'm getting this right
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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