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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 08 2010 00:21 GMT
#101
I think when he says they intent to finish the bo5 they mean they will play until one player has 3 victories, not play all 5 games regardless.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 08 2010 00:33 GMT
#102
ils won't ever cheese. He'll just open 1 rax CC super standard every game.
God Bless
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 08 2010 00:36 GMT
#103
On March 08 2010 09:33 Roffles wrote:
ils won't ever cheese. He'll just open 1 rax CC super standard every game.

Hand to god, I did nothing but 12 hatch fe for 4 solid years.

I recently added overpool to my repertoire, bringing my bo count to 2. (i guess 3 if you count 5pool)
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
March 08 2010 00:41 GMT
#104
On March 08 2010 09:36 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2010 09:33 Roffles wrote:
ils won't ever cheese. He'll just open 1 rax CC super standard every game.

Hand to god, I did nothing but 12 hatch fe for 4 solid years.

I recently added overpool to my repertoire, bringing my bo count to 2. (i guess 3 if you count 5pool)

then that means 4 if you count 4 pool
Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
March 08 2010 00:43 GMT
#105
l10f for president!
One does not simply walk into mordor
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 08 2010 00:43 GMT
#106
i can't 4 pool

infact i can barely 5pool

....


...

well to be perfectly honest i can't do any build order correctly

maybe sc isn't my game.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 08 2010 00:44 GMT
#107
ils is boring to watch. He's like a Korean robot. No variation in his game at all. His games vs Evo are hilarious. Evo does whatever the fuck he wants, while ils just does the same shit every game.
God Bless
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
March 08 2010 01:08 GMT
#108
On March 08 2010 09:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:
i can't 4 pool

infact i can barely 5pool

....


...

well to be perfectly honest i can't do any build order correctly

maybe sc isn't my game.

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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 08 2010 01:25 GMT
#109
lol at the gg at the end
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 08 2010 01:49 GMT
#110
How the hell can he defend against 4pool if he cant go rax first?
Fan of the Jangbanger
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 08 2010 01:56 GMT
#111
On March 08 2010 10:49 O-ops wrote:
How the hell can he defend against 4pool if he cant go rax first?


4 pool is hard counter to rax first builds. even 11 rax can block 4pool if you scout it.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42486 Posts
March 08 2010 02:22 GMT
#112
The rule about no allins makes no sense. If a big attack does no damage you're always fucked. That doesn't make them allin because the assumption of the attack is that it will do enough damage to delay them as much as it delayed you and create transitions. For example, a speedlot attack against a zerg with muta about to complete when the protoss has no air defence in his main may seem allin, for if the attack fails then the protoss will lose his main to mutalisks. However the protoss cannot get unlucky and do no damage because that is not the situation, although if the speedlots simply ceased to exist the mutalisks could fly into the protoss main and destroy it that is not the case. Ignoring them would cost the zerg his spire and a lot of drones which would leave the protoss even while using the mutalisks against them would allow the protoss to get air defence.
The point is that almost every attack in bw is allin, the attack is intended to create a situation and if everything goes wrong the attacker is fucked. The key point is that the attack will generally do about what it should do allowing both players to transition.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 08 2010 02:25 GMT
#113
On March 08 2010 11:22 KwarK wrote:
The rule about no allins makes no sense. If a big attack does no damage you're always fucked. That doesn't make them allin because the assumption of the attack is that it will do enough damage to delay them as much as it delayed you and create transitions. For example, a speedlot attack against a zerg with muta about to complete when the protoss has no air defence in his main may seem allin, for if the attack fails then the protoss will lose his main to mutalisks. However the protoss cannot get unlucky and do no damage because that is not the situation, although if the speedlots simply ceased to exist the mutalisks could fly into the protoss main and destroy it that is not the case. Ignoring them would cost the zerg his spire and a lot of drones which would leave the protoss even while using the mutalisks against them would allow the protoss to get air defence.
The point is that almost every attack in bw is allin, the attack is intended to create a situation and if everything goes wrong the attacker is fucked. The key point is that the attack will generally do about what it should do allowing both players to transition.


All-in builds and all-in attacks arent the same, and besides, its not a rule that I imposed on him, he said he wanted to beat me without doing any all-ins.
Writer
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-08 02:38:55
March 08 2010 02:36 GMT
#114
before anyone asks again i just mean im not going to do anything like rock paper scissor type of builds. Like proxy bbs in the middle of the map.
On March 08 2010 09:44 Roffles wrote:
ils is boring to watch. He's like a Korean robot. No variation in his game at all. His games vs Evo are hilarious. Evo does whatever the fuck he wants, while ils just does the same shit every game.

proxy14 cc in opponents nat
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 08 2010 02:40 GMT
#115
You're not gosu enough for that. Only pangshai is.
God Bless
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 08 2010 02:43 GMT
#116
this is gunna be entertaining.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-08 02:57:31
March 08 2010 02:53 GMT
#117
l10f fails
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
March 08 2010 02:59 GMT
#118
something tells me that this thread has awaken the forces of karma ._.
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42486 Posts
March 08 2010 03:08 GMT
#119
On March 08 2010 11:25 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2010 11:22 KwarK wrote:
The rule about no allins makes no sense. If a big attack does no damage you're always fucked. That doesn't make them allin because the assumption of the attack is that it will do enough damage to delay them as much as it delayed you and create transitions. For example, a speedlot attack against a zerg with muta about to complete when the protoss has no air defence in his main may seem allin, for if the attack fails then the protoss will lose his main to mutalisks. However the protoss cannot get unlucky and do no damage because that is not the situation, although if the speedlots simply ceased to exist the mutalisks could fly into the protoss main and destroy it that is not the case. Ignoring them would cost the zerg his spire and a lot of drones which would leave the protoss even while using the mutalisks against them would allow the protoss to get air defence.
The point is that almost every attack in bw is allin, the attack is intended to create a situation and if everything goes wrong the attacker is fucked. The key point is that the attack will generally do about what it should do allowing both players to transition.


All-in builds and all-in attacks arent the same, and besides, its not a rule that I imposed on him, he said he wanted to beat me without doing any all-ins.

Then it's his lack of understanding I'm criticising.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
March 08 2010 03:15 GMT
#120
oh, this brings back memories. once upon a time on these here forums there was a poster named jared, aka DeadVessel. he was given 20 games to take one game off of ToT)Strafe( and went 0-17 before giving up. will history repeat itself? will ilikestarcraft join the ignominious ranks of the completely owned?
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