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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 18 2009 10:07 GMT
#681
Calm ownage time.
TranslatorBaa!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 18 2009 10:07 GMT
#682
Also, people saying stuff about Flash's TvZ revolution and so on. I'd say that that's more because of the passive 3 hatch muta, although I guess his manouvering was really nice. However, if JD had made more zerglings because it's a good skill to have, I think that those groups would have been quite vulnerable.

Maybe his style is good against greedy-ish 3 hatch style play?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 18 2009 10:07 GMT
#683
On December 18 2009 19:06 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:04 Chen wrote:
can some1 explain to me why Jaedong canceled his first attempt at a third base? i mean it was scouted but he then placed it at a position that was farther away from his base and harder to defend, not to mention very heavily delayed. did he assume Flash would just think he was going for a 2-base build? O.o


When jaedong lost the third the first time he was desperate, so he threw a third at a spot and prayed flash wouldn't scout there. At least that's how I see it.



he moved his mutas up there to scout for the scv/marines but he was off by a few seconds so the scv squeaked in
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 10:08:52
December 18 2009 10:07 GMT
#684
On December 18 2009 19:02 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 18:57 SilverskY wrote:
Flash is revolutionizing TvZ... If JD couldn't beat him, there is no one that can (Hyun was an exception)


What a load. Actually, if Hyun can beat him, other zergs can, too.


to silversky

How the hell is this revolutionizing?
This is exactly the same bio-style Terrans used for the last 2 years, a bit safer i guess.
I'm getting raped by this "11rax CC, deny 3rd, push befor defiler" since i play Iccup. Flash executed it well, JD made a couple bad decisions that's it.
And who said JD cannot beat this? He lost ONE frickin game. Zero could have beaten Flash had he upgraded what he should have.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#685
Clam vs Pure starting, Clam got the hot boothgirl.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#686
On December 18 2009 19:05 WyffGoaL wrote:
Flash reminds me of Boxer's TvZ.... The dominance is coming back for sure.. Pitiful Zerg...


yes boxer sure did 1rax fe's in flawless fashion in 2001.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 10:09:37
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#687
I know other people have said it, but I think that was one of the most perfect TvZs ever.

Lurkers did nothing, mutas didn't get their money's worth, and he denied ling backstabs and expos at the same time like a beast.

I had thought Flash's "I practiced more for JD than ZerO, that's why I was sloppy" answer sounded like an excuse in the MSL after-interview, but now I can see that I was wrong.

edit: Didn't see the actual unit counter, oops
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#688
NICE GRIP THERE PURE
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#689
On December 18 2009 19:07 scwizard wrote:
Jaedong tried a risky build. It didn't work. Flash played perfectly.That's pretty much all there is to say about that game.


risky build?

3 hatch muta is the most standard thing ever in ZvT
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 10:09:19
December 18 2009 10:08 GMT
#690
On December 18 2009 19:06 FireGuyX wrote:
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On December 18 2009 19:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
My predictions for today were:

(P)Stork will stay (Z)Calm and in a (T)Flash burst out and eliminate his (Z)ZerO of an opponent.

Movie will eliminate Zero and Zero will lose to Flash in the MSL too.


Tbh, I really don't know who will win game 3, but it's a lot easier to make a pun with (Z)ZerO than with (P)Movie in this case...
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#691
On December 18 2009 18:55 cascades wrote:
F with lame fist pump.

For him that's like jumping up in down screaming with execitement
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#692
PvZ imba talk led to maps that make it harder for zerg to get a third quick. Jaedong has to be all over the map to get one, Flash denies and macros up ---> gg.

It was like watching a demonstration of Terran at some blizzcon rather than a game between two of the best players of SC.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#693
On December 18 2009 19:08 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:07 scwizard wrote:
Jaedong tried a risky build. It didn't work. Flash played perfectly.That's pretty much all there is to say about that game.


risky build?

3 hatch muta is the most standard thing ever in ZvT

everything you do vs flash is risky
even showing up for the game itself
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#694
On December 18 2009 19:07 scwizard wrote:
Jaedong tried a risky build. It didn't work. Flash played perfectly.That's pretty much all there is to say about that game.

It was just standard 3 hatch mutalisks. Flash was just too good -_-
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#695
On December 18 2009 19:07 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:02 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 18 2009 18:57 SilverskY wrote:
Flash is revolutionizing TvZ... If JD couldn't beat him, there is no one that can (Hyun was an exception)


What a load. Actually, if Hyun can beat him, other zergs can, too.


to silversky

How the hell is this revolutionizing?
This is exactly the same bio-style Terrans used for the last 2 years, a bit safer i guess.
I'm getting raped by this "11rax CC, deny 3rd, push befor defiler" since i play Iccup. Flash executed it well, JD made a couple bad decisions that's it.
And who said JD cannot beat this? He lost ONE frickin game. Zero could have beaten this had he upgraded what he should have.

Jeeez people are so serious today...

Yeah sure it's Bionic, but the meta game seems a bit different with very early aggression, which wasn't seen a lot before Flash started using it a lot. And of course my statement about the people being unbeatable is an exaggeration, I'm just happy for Flash's win.

People need to chill...
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 18 2009 10:09 GMT
#696
On December 18 2009 19:08 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:07 scwizard wrote:
Jaedong tried a risky build. It didn't work. Flash played perfectly.That's pretty much all there is to say about that game.


risky build?

3 hatch muta is the most standard thing ever in ZvT


not a 3hat muta without 16 speedlings and fast 3rd
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 18 2009 10:10 GMT
#697
Damn I've slept in and missed JD vs Flash
BW fighting!
Poochi
Profile Joined May 2008
United States117 Posts
December 18 2009 10:10 GMT
#698
I think we failed to also recognize flash scanning ability. He was using his comsat frequently from the sound..we just could not tell what he was looking for. I think that plus the 2 roaming groups of marines and the hero scv..gave flash a lot of map info...add that to his game sense and it was an advantage that even JD had a hard time to overcome.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7881 Posts
December 18 2009 10:10 GMT
#699
I don't get why some people are all "imba terran" or "JD got position fucked"

Why not just say "wow JD looked like he wasn't at all into the game hopefully he shows up next week"? As a Flash fan he played a perfect game.. but JD looked physically tired and not into the game at all... his whole plan was "I hope Flash doesn't notice this early 3rd!" and then he got rolled. :/.

I for one hope he at least seems interested in their christmas matches
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 18 2009 10:10 GMT
#700
Bloody hell, I hope you brought your A game Pure because you either play like a total idiot or you play amazingly. And I want you to knock out Calm to prevent a ZvZ final.
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