• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:09
CEST 23:09
KST 06:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed14Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Who will win EWC 2025? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Server Blocker Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
Starcraft Superstars Winner/Replays [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread We are Ready to Testify: Emergence Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 638 users

[H][?] Selecting workers / Rally points

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Rofllisk
Profile Joined March 2010
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 09:50:39
April 02 2010 09:49 GMT
#1
Hi!
This may seem like a noob question, but I wonder, what's the point of quickly selecting your workers multiple times in the beginning of the match? This is not about initial worker split or larvae trick, but rectangle-selecting workers, selecting main building, then clicking many times to set a rally point, then repeat. I always thought it was totally stupid and pointless, because clicking over 9000 times to set a single rally point doesn't seem to make your workers move faster or anything. Until I saw progamers doing it.

Example (Bisu fpvod): + Show Spoiler +
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 10:15:36
April 02 2010 10:14 GMT
#2
It's not pointless, its warm up for the later game where you actually need to be fast like that. No point in just staring at your screen, rather you should use the time to get the blood pumping and get ready to do some really quick mouse/keyboard usage. You can make it fun as well by setting up small mini games for yourself, try selecting all the probes/minerals as fast as possible and it'll improve your overall mouse skills as well.

But nah it has no "direct" positive effects to it, your probes wont mine faster or anything of that sort.
Rofllisk
Profile Joined March 2010
45 Posts
April 02 2010 11:50 GMT
#3
Thanks, got it.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8003 Posts
April 02 2010 12:39 GMT
#4
This has been discused mate
They do this to worm up their hands and stuff
workers don't mine faster or smth
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
April 02 2010 15:16 GMT
#5
they do mine faster dude
skyhighftw on iccup
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
April 02 2010 16:00 GMT
#6
the reason with hight level player do that is for warm you hand. When you do that, your reaction time is better and you will not put your self behind just because your not paying attention to your match and forget to make a pylon or the gas in time i.e
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 19:47:27
April 02 2010 19:47 GMT
#7
On April 03 2010 00:16 FlameSworD wrote:
they do mine faster dude

How? Where's your proof?

Did u search the threads OP? There are many threads that state the answer to this.

edit: I remember seeing at least 3 threads since I joined which was last FEB.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
April 02 2010 20:10 GMT
#8
they return faster with the select + return cargo its not much but a little
skyhighftw on iccup
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 20:58:04
April 02 2010 20:56 GMT
#9
Edit: deleted, no point in starting something.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
April 02 2010 22:05 GMT
#10
On April 03 2010 05:10 FlameSworD wrote:
they return faster with the select + return cargo its not much but a little


u serious?
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
April 03 2010 02:51 GMT
#11
Look at the Professional Gamers, they don't really do much besides selective unit controlling and etc. It's a warm-up exercise that is useless unless you have high APM. If you have low APM nothing will change lol.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
April 03 2010 03:15 GMT
#12
On April 03 2010 05:10 FlameSworD wrote:
they return faster with the select + return cargo its not much but a little


I'm almost positive you're wrong, however it is faster if you send them to mineral patches that have shorter paths back to the nexus/cc/hatch.
Hi.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
April 03 2010 03:40 GMT
#13
If you look at some FPVODs with Jangbi, you see that he selects his probes after they collect to mine minerals. There has been some speculation about this mining a little faster but since other pros are not doing this, it's probably not true.
the throws never bothered me anyway
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 03 2010 04:35 GMT
#14
IIRC, they call it "petting" the workers, and yes it does make them mine slightly faster, ive seen soooo many pros do this in vods
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
April 03 2010 06:19 GMT
#15
just sets the pace for your hand muscles to keep that pace later in the game rather than trying to force yourself to get progressively faster and faster.. plus after doing it for awhile it just becomes habit anyway and its hard to break
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 07:47:50
April 03 2010 07:46 GMT
#16
I'm not 100% sure, but for terran you can actually improve mining efficiency by controlling your workers early on.

If they are mining from a close mineral patch, but there's a further one behind it so the patch looks like

------M(1)
M(2)---------------CC
------M(3)

Then click on M2 after your scv has dropped off minerals, and when it reaches M1 tell it to actually mine M1. This prevents scv deceleration that it would do on its own. You can also do this with M3. This will save you maybe 1/4 of a second each time, but it doesn't hurt in the super early game. I'm surprised I don't see any pros ever do this.

Edit: how come spaces don't show up for me?
shinjin
Profile Joined January 2010
United States398 Posts
April 03 2010 07:56 GMT
#17
On April 03 2010 16:46 randombum wrote:
I'm not 100% sure, but for terran you can actually improve mining efficiency by controlling your workers early on.

If they are mining from a close mineral patch, but there's a further one behind it so the patch looks like

------M(1)
M(2)---------------CC
------M(3)

Then click on M2 after your scv has dropped off minerals, and when it reaches M1 tell it to actually mine M1. This prevents scv deceleration that it would do on its own. You can also do this with M3. This will save you maybe 1/4 of a second each time, but it doesn't hurt in the super early game. I'm surprised I don't see any pros ever do this.

Edit: how come spaces don't show up for me?

'interesting...

give it one more try because the best things in life dont come free.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
April 03 2010 14:39 GMT
#18
Here's another noob question related to the OP, what exactly is the key sequence they are using to warm up? Are they selecting the workers, then selecting the nexus/cc/hatch with the mouse, or do they use the building hotkey? Or is it different with every player? I know it's such a minor thing but I've never actually done it myself.

I have my own mini game I use at the first couple minutes of the game, it involves choosing random workers or minerals and trying to click them all accurately as fast as I can in the order I want. This is to help my one big weakness in battles, microing individual units fast enough.
King takes Queen
BallKicker
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)84 Posts
April 03 2010 16:39 GMT
#19
To get MY apm up, I hotkey a group of probes to 9 and my nexus to 0, I then spam
90909090909090909090909090
and I get high amounts of APM in a matter of seconds, its great. Do that instead of clicking and spamming rally points.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 03 2010 16:45 GMT
#20
On April 03 2010 16:46 randombum wrote:
I'm not 100% sure, but for terran you can actually improve mining efficiency by controlling your workers early on.

If they are mining from a close mineral patch, but there's a further one behind it so the patch looks like

------M(1)
M(2)---------------CC
------M(3)

Then click on M2 after your scv has dropped off minerals, and when it reaches M1 tell it to actually mine M1. This prevents scv deceleration that it would do on its own. You can also do this with M3. This will save you maybe 1/4 of a second each time, but it doesn't hurt in the super early game. I'm surprised I don't see any pros ever do this.

Edit: how come spaces don't show up for me?

as far as I knew this was the only little thing you can do early on to improve mining efficiency. small, but no point in not doing it early on if you're warming up your hands anyway
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 51m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub250
Hui .198
UpATreeSC 156
Nathanias 146
JuggernautJason56
ForJumy 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 941
ZZZero.O 146
scan(afreeca) 133
Aegong 84
Dota 2
syndereN817
NeuroSwarm111
League of Legends
Grubby4960
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K573
flusha486
byalli350
oskar272
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken31
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu640
Other Games
tarik_tv8612
summit1g4661
FrodaN2774
Beastyqt658
ToD296
C9.Mang0165
Skadoodle89
Trikslyr61
Sick50
PPMD36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2658
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 13
• musti20045 13
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22677
• Ler85
League of Legends
• TFBlade904
Other Games
• imaqtpie2161
• Shiphtur219
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
12h 51m
Epic.LAN
14h 51m
CSO Contender
19h 51m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
Online Event
1d 18h
Esports World Cup
3 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

JPL Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.