• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:16
CEST 02:16
KST 09:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Where is EffOrt? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason ZeroSpace Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9956 users

Spoiler* BaBy vs Modesty GOMTV

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
EniraM(CA)
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada160 Posts
May 12 2009 14:24 GMT
#1
[image loading]


For all you people who havent watched this series, do yourself a favor and do it now.
You might remember BaBy shaking up the BW world with his performance vs Jangbi in his previous series. He pulled off some impressive TvP skills that a lot of people are talking about. On Sunday he showed he is not a 1 trick pony with some intense TvZ play.
These games are high level, and really exciting.

BaBy showed us some extreme Wraith usage in game 2 of the series.
Getting the most kills with wraiths I have ever seen.

http://www.gomtv.net/videos/732

Here is a tally of the Wraith kills that were shown on screen:
39 Drones
9 Overlords
25 Mutalisks
1 Zergling
3 Hydralisks
2 Scourage
5 Lurkers

"The best TvZ we have seen yet" -Tasteless



(img credit: NeverGG I found it on goggle)
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
May 12 2009 14:27 GMT
#2
what i dont get is since baby did so much damage with his wraiths, how did 815 still manage to gather up a big army and win the game?
im gay
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 12 2009 14:27 GMT
#3
That's not 815, that's Modesty.
Writer
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
May 12 2009 14:29 GMT
#4
Yeah it wouldn't hurt if he actually won the game. Leta shows how scary terran air units can be better than anybody.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
May 12 2009 14:31 GMT
#5
Babys wraith micro was incredible. He just screwed up majorly when he pushed out too early and lost a few tanks / rines allowing 815 to do some devastating drops.
#1 Kwanro Fan
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 12 2009 14:32 GMT
#6
He spent most of his money on wraiths so he didn't have much of a ground army to deal with the hydra/lurk once the zerg started pushing out. He also didn't have enough detection besides scan nor tanks which screwed him vs lurks. Baby trying to defend both his back nat and his front nat spread him too thin so he couldn't adequately defend attacks from either side.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 12 2009 14:35 GMT
#7
On May 12 2009 23:31 Bosu wrote:
Babys wraith micro was incredible. He just screwed up majorly when he pushed out too early and lost a few tanks / rines allowing 815 to do some devastating drops.



MODESTY


Insane wraiths..

but sad that he still lost..
hatred outlives the hateful
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 14:38:40
May 12 2009 14:38 GMT
#8
On May 12 2009 23:29 Magic84 wrote:
Yeah it wouldn't hurt if he actually won the game. Leta shows how scary terran air units can be better than anybody.



Because Baby moved half of his army out at one point and lost 3 tanks that he needed for a later push, not to mention those 3 tanks would have been able to help Baby defend Modesty's drop easily.

But since he lost them, Modesty's drop was successful and Baby lost that match.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 12 2009 14:41 GMT
#9
uhhhh modesty=/=815
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 12 2009 14:44 GMT
#10
amazing wraith micro, was very exciting to watch
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 12 2009 14:48 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler +
Even though baby did a phenomenal job of dishing out pain with his wraiths, modesty had 3 base at that time and could recover easily from babys harassment, plus baby does not even have a decent ground forces and plus plus, his wraith play delayed his first expo time significantly...
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
May 12 2009 14:49 GMT
#12
that series vs. jangbi was epic. I was watching that series at my work with no sounds but it still thrilled the shit out of me. I'm going to watch this one now. Thanks.
Boxer is the truth.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 12 2009 14:52 GMT
#13
I was shocked. I was like WTF BABY RAPED 815? Although his record kinda wont prove it but 815 is actually a decent player, he is just too greedy sometimes. Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.
Woo Jung Ho
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 12 2009 14:57 GMT
#14
baby was greedy that is what happened
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
May 12 2009 14:59 GMT
#15
On May 12 2009 23:52 iLoveKTF wrote:
Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.


And here's the first reason why I was not that impressed by the wraith micro. Modesty defendet poorly.
The second that it obviously didn't help baby to win the game.
No way this was the best TvZ we've ever seen.
Don't mess the fess!
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
May 12 2009 15:01 GMT
#16
Baby has Nada (most successful player of all time) and Mind (former MSL winner and one of the strongest players ever in terms of timing and strategy) on his team. He is definitely getting some of the best terran mentorship possible, excluding fantasy on sktt1. I remember when Baby beat Daezang on Monty Hall, even if that match didn't matter. I was his fan since then.
Sullifam
oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
May 12 2009 15:02 GMT
#17
I disagree with the claim that Baby had really perfect or S class play. He just made too many mistakes in this series to be considered to be considered among the best.

However, I am a huge fan of baby's gameplay after the jangbi series and this series. That wraith control was spectacular. All of his games have been entertaining to watch so far.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
May 12 2009 15:30 GMT
#18
whoa that was nice play but what a fail way to lose.
ya had ya shot kid!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 12 2009 15:34 GMT
#19
On May 12 2009 23:27 whatusername wrote:
what i dont get is since baby did so much damage with his wraiths, how did 815 still manage to gather up a big army and win the game?


You guys should see Forgg vs Jangbi, Forgg loses 100+ units to reavers and still wins haha.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 12 2009 15:39 GMT
#20
On May 12 2009 23:52 iLoveKTF wrote:
I was shocked. I was like WTF BABY RAPED 815? Although his record kinda wont prove it but 815 is actually a decent player, he is just too greedy sometimes. Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.

MODESTY not 815
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#86 (PTR Edition)
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft271
CosmosSc2 43
Temp0 27
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3117
Rain 2614
Sea 690
Artosis 569
Terrorterran 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever622
LuMiX0
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox948
AZ_Axe155
Other Games
Day[9].tv1458
shahzam574
C9.Mang0504
ViBE131
JuggernautJason110
Maynarde68
Trikslyr57
PPMD19
OptimusSC27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick887
BasetradeTV256
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv1458
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 44m
The PondCast
1d 9h
OSC
1d 23h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.