On November 10 2026 04:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Is not really uncommon for zerg progamers to play TvZ or PvZ instead of zvz. Specially back on fish. But it is surprising Protoss pros doing it for mirrors. Light was playing zerg vs terran also. But i guess they just dont take ladder serious at all xd.
Yup, Koreans don't give a shit about ladder, according to Scan:
Scan's opinions > everyone in this thread.
EDIT for A.Alm because he didn't watch the video: at 6 minutes 30 seconds, Scan roasted people on TeamLiquid and this thread is a thread on TeamLiquid.
On November 10 2026 04:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Is not really uncommon for zerg progamers to play TvZ or PvZ instead of zvz. Specially back on fish. But it is surprising Protoss pros doing it for mirrors. Light was playing zerg vs terran also. But i guess they just dont take ladder serious at all xd.
Yup, Koreans don't give a shit about ladder, according to Scan:
Wait a minute. So if both users tick the mirror dodge option, what happens? I'd assume that's when they won't ever be matched against each other, unless instead of a PvP they'll have to play a ZvZ against each other lmao
Because the only alternative is one gets to play his main race while the other has to offrace, and that's randomly decided.
So if every single P player choose mirror dodge, I think it's guaranteed that no P will ever be matched to another P offracing?
I think the alternative that u mentioned (one player randomly gets to play main, the other off race) is much more likely used.
However, no one mentions ostracized by Shield Battery mirror specialists, who will have lesses win rate overall, because of the availability to dodge mirror match ups! But in the end, I'm willing to let it go in the name of the greater good.
On November 10 2026 22:08 Bonyth wrote: I think the alternative that u mentioned (one player randomly gets to play main, the other off race) is much more likely used.
However, no one mentions ostracized by Shield Battery mirror specialists, who will have lesses win rate overall, because of the availability to dodge mirror match ups! But in the end, I'm willing to let it go in the name of the greater good.
I think it's ok. for some reason P players don't really off race even vs own race. It's mostly T and Z players for unknown reasons..
There's an account named "Horang2" that began laddering today. But the record seems rather...unimpressive, and I haven't seen SB being used on Horang2's stream today, so I'm not entirely sure of its authenticity.
This one is important since Horang2 is a heavy hitter in the streaming scene.
On November 11 2026 01:28 Kanzzer wrote: There's an account named "Horang2" that began laddering today. But the record seems rather...unimpressive, and I haven't seen SB being used on Horang2's stream today, so I'm not entirely sure of its authenticity.
This one is important since Horang2 is a heavy hitter in the streaming scene.
There is a korean mid-high level amateur who used to sit in low S who also used Horang2 for their bnet ID. I think the real Horang2 would sign up as ColdHippo, as he has used that name for a few years now.
On November 11 2026 01:02 Kanzzer wrote: I haven't seen Bisu using SB on stream.
But this may be his account (1 win against JD, also isn't "Bisu" = "Blade"?)
A pro level amateur toss goes by Blade. He is on ssinz's level in PvT and PvZ. Ever)p(blade
On November 11 2026 01:28 Kanzzer wrote: There's an account named "Horang2" that began laddering today. But the record seems rather...unimpressive, and I haven't seen SB being used on Horang2's stream today, so I'm not entirely sure of its authenticity.
This one is important since Horang2 is a heavy hitter in the streaming scene.
There is a korean mid-high level amateur who used to sit in low S who also used Horang2 for their bnet ID. I think the real Horang2 would sign up as ColdHippo, as he has used that name for a few years now.
On November 11 2026 01:02 Kanzzer wrote: I haven't seen Bisu using SB on stream.
But this may be his account (1 win against JD, also isn't "Bisu" = "Blade"?)
A pro level amateur toss goes by Blade. He is on ssinz's level in PvT and PvZ. Ever)p(blade
Thank you for the verification! I appreciate that.
With the exception of Ample & Killer, I'm struggling to find accounts belonging to either people at C9 (Horang2, Bisu or BTS) or MonstarZ (Calm, Hm, Movie, RoyaL or SoulKey).
Also, is ss1nz retired? Last I checked a month ago he hasn't gotten new entries in 2 years
On November 11 2026 01:28 Kanzzer wrote: There's an account named "Horang2" that began laddering today. But the record seems rather...unimpressive, and I haven't seen SB being used on Horang2's stream today, so I'm not entirely sure of its authenticity.
This one is important since Horang2 is a heavy hitter in the streaming scene.
There is a korean mid-high level amateur who used to sit in low S who also used Horang2 for their bnet ID. I think the real Horang2 would sign up as ColdHippo, as he has used that name for a few years now.
On November 11 2026 01:02 Kanzzer wrote: I haven't seen Bisu using SB on stream.
But this may be his account (1 win against JD, also isn't "Bisu" = "Blade"?)
A pro level amateur toss goes by Blade. He is on ssinz's level in PvT and PvZ. Ever)p(blade
Thank you for the verification! I appreciate that.
With the exception of Ample & Killer, I'm struggling to find accounts belonging to either people at C9 (Horang2, Bisu or BTS) or MonstarZ (Calm, Hm, Movie, RoyaL or SoulKey).
Also, is ss1nz retired? Last I checked a month ago he hasn't gotten new entries in 2 years
Ssinz and Mighty got banned from ASL and some other tournies because they smurfed in amateur tournies as a paid service. Mighty does coaching for UNI girls and ssinz seems to not care much anymore.
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