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DsT-Napoleon
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
June 13 2013 03:32 GMT
#441
Sounds like you have given this a lot of thought and have some pretty good ideas of what you want. My opinion is that you should consider a team league to fill the void left by no more gambits cup. Also this would allow for a set of 2v2 to add some variety. Best of luck!!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5489 Posts
June 13 2013 21:10 GMT
#442
With GC gone do you guys have any plans of organizing/sponsoring a teamleague of your own?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
June 16 2013 20:02 GMT
#443
On June 13 2013 12:32 DsT-Napoleon wrote:
Sounds like you have given this a lot of thought and have some pretty good ideas of what you want. My opinion is that you should consider a team league to fill the void left by no more gambits cup. Also this would allow for a set of 2v2 to add some variety. Best of luck!!

On June 14 2013 06:10 thezanursic wrote:
With GC gone do you guys have any plans of organizing/sponsoring a teamleague of your own?

SBWI sponsoring a team league is not completely unrealistic, but it's also something that needs to be discussed internally before any decision is made.


You might be wondering what "discussed internally" actually means in this context, so I'm going to explain exactly how the situation is right now and what needs to be done before we have a definitive answer to this question.

2 days ago I spoke with Jaevlaterran about a smaller SBWI-tournament which I wanted us to do. Prior to us having this conversation, another SBWI member (I think his name on TL is Abjurer? sorry :$) had suggested a format in which the top players of all teams represented in Gambits Cup would battle it out in a 1v1 Single Elim setting. I was super excited after he had posted this in our Facebook group. What I wanted to hear was what Jaevlaterran thought of this idea, and also if I could increase the proposed price pool a bit, since this format called for something slightly more impressive.

After we had discussed this other tournament, I carefully and very smoothly said something along the lines of:
"... is there even a small notion of a possibility that maybe we might, for our bigger tournament later on, you know, perhaps host something like a team league sort of like, I dunno, gambits cup or something, maybe?"
That's a pretty weird way to ask a question, I know, but I swear to god, that's pretty much how I went about asking his opinion. I'm exaggerating a lot less than I care to admit here, and it gets even more comical when taken into account what he answered me with:
"Yeah, why not? Us hosting the new Gambits Cup would be awesome."

I realize that this post contains more time travel than the average episode of Doctor Who, BUT, going back to why I liked the idea proposed by Abjurer; (1) I really miss gambits cup, and (2) I'm hardly the only one feeling this way.
Obviously, doing the full monty and hosting a new team league would be even cooler than simply hosting a commemorative, one time only tournament.
Remember the "internal discussion" thing I mentioned earlier? Even though both me and Jaevlaterran are interested in hosting a team league, we actually haven't discussed this properly with the rest of the organization. This would be fine if we didn't value democracy in SBWI, which, incidentally, we do -- even when it's inconvenient.
So... I should probably go do that asaply...

... but before that I'm going to do something awful. I'm going to pose another rhetorical question.
Why are you telling me all of this?
Because, believe it or not, your opinion matters to us. Without the BW-community, SBWI wouldn't have had any reason to exist. The whole point of creating SBWI was, and still is, to give something back to that same community. The relationship between SBWI and the rest of the foreign BroodWar scene is certainly of the give-and-take variety, especially when you take into account all of the donations we receive from fellow BW-fans. If those fans want another Gambits Cup, then there's just no way for us to ignore that.

The donations we have received so far, combined with the subsidies from the Swedish government, means SBWI should be able to provide a price pool that is both fair and exciting for the participating players.
The casters, the mapmakers and LR-posters are all there in the community.
An anti-abuse team, referees and all other behind-the-scenes workers is something SBWI can fix.

So what's stopping us?

If we decide to go through with this: nothing really. It's going to be a lot of work though, which is why I'm ending this post with a request. One request and one question, which is not rhetorical by the way.


  1. What do you think about SBWI hosting a new team league? Good or bad, any feedback is appreciated!

  2. Do you want to help making this, or any other tournament we might host, happen? If you have any particular skill that might be relevant, whether it's graphic design, replay analysis (for anti-abuse/hack purposes), or you're an aspiring caster, then that's awesome -- please send me a PM!
    If you don't know anything about stuff like that, but you still want to help, then you're just as awesome and just as welcome. Send me a PM and we'll work something out!

Another way of contributing is making a donation to us. SBWI is a non-profit organization, meaning, in this case, that any donation goes directly to a tournament's price pool. We do not use donated funds to hire web developers to make our website. We don't use your money to buy beer for our BroodBars. Also, my bills are still being paid for with my money (sadly). More information about donating to us is available in the OP of this thread.


Thank you very much for reading!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 16 2013 20:36 GMT
#444
SBWI proleauge ftw
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
June 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#445
<3
teamleague with new cw system: bo7 1v1 sets, bo3 2v2 sets
if one team wins the 1v1 and the other the 2v2 then ACE match: 3v3 hunters or 3v3 team melee
OR
resurrect all rank team league with more realistic tier system
OR
BOTH!

Go Jumper, hwaiting.~
life is balanced, L2P
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 16 2013 21:50 GMT
#446
On June 17 2013 06:21 skzlime wrote:
<3
teamleague with new cw system: bo7 1v1 sets, bo3 2v2 sets
if one team wins the 1v1 and the other the 2v2 then ACE match: 3v3 hunters or 3v3 team melee
OR
resurrect all rank team league with more realistic tier system
OR
BOTH!

Go Jumper, hwaiting.~


wtf? The format GC had is the best one.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
June 16 2013 22:25 GMT
#447
On June 17 2013 06:50 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 06:21 skzlime wrote:
<3
teamleague with new cw system: bo7 1v1 sets, bo3 2v2 sets
if one team wins the 1v1 and the other the 2v2 then ACE match: 3v3 hunters or 3v3 team melee
OR
resurrect all rank team league with more realistic tier system
OR
BOTH!

Go Jumper, hwaiting.~


wtf? The format GC had is the best one.

I will have to agree it was pretty damn good...
T H C makes ppl happy
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 16 2013 22:49 GMT
#448
On June 17 2013 06:50 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 06:21 skzlime wrote:
<3
teamleague with new cw system: bo7 1v1 sets, bo3 2v2 sets
if one team wins the 1v1 and the other the 2v2 then ACE match: 3v3 hunters or 3v3 team melee
OR
resurrect all rank team league with more realistic tier system
OR
BOTH!

Go Jumper, hwaiting.~


wtf? The format GC had is the best one.

Can't disagree with you.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
LRM)nOoNe
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States231 Posts
June 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#449
Please for the love of god do not do anything involving 2v2s or tiered team leagues
I still have nightmares about the 2v2s from nation wars
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 17 2013 03:26 GMT
#450
No 2v2. Except for one week a season, all clan wars are four 2v2s, with a 2v2 ace. Also all anti-BM rules are suspended for this week.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 17 2013 03:50 GMT
#451
If for no other reason than what Justin said, think of having to deal with ZergGboY more than once, ever.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
June 17 2013 08:43 GMT
#452
^ LOL'ed
yo~.~
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 17 2013 12:53 GMT
#453
lol game.

but yea, plz no 2v2
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
June 18 2013 08:36 GMT
#454
A new tournament would be awesome, but as many have stated; no 2v2, 1v1 is enough. Make a super slick tournament and I'll donate some more
For the swarm
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
June 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#455
seems like we gon have to kick lumix after all. oh well ;D
life is balanced, L2P
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 13:47:14
June 18 2013 13:45 GMT
#456
I would like there to be one set of 2v2 like in NW. There are plenty of good 2v2ers out there that shouldn't be left out. Also, I do recall Nation Wars having semi-entertaining 1v1 games at best but amazing 2v2 games. Anyone else remember the Tokyoa 23 kill mutalisk?

edit: and don't kick lumix_ please...
Need a light?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19262 Posts
June 18 2013 14:01 GMT
#457
Why can't we have an American Brood War initiative? tripple sad face
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
June 18 2013 14:08 GMT
#458
I'm kinda surprised to see all this 2v2 hate to be honest :p Obviously we aren't going to pick a format that everyone but me and Jaevlaterran hates, but still...
Also, keep in mind that the SBWI team league is still in the pre-planning stage, meaning that nothing has been decided yet. In other words, feel free to leave any suggestions and criticisms. It's a lot easier for us to design a format that's "right" from the beginning, rather than making something we think would be cool and then redoing it dozens of times until it works for almost everyone involved.

I check back on this thread pretty much on a daily basis, and while I won't be able to respond to every single post, I will be able to read them all.

Thanks for all the positive feedback and the suggestions you've given so far!
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
June 18 2013 15:33 GMT
#459
if you guys decide to do a team league like gambit, i propose increasing number of sets to bo9 for moar brood warz
life is balanced, L2P
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
June 18 2013 16:33 GMT
#460
I'd love to see a new team league! (And I also agree that I don't like 2v2 very much.)
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