EPTThis is just an idea, but I was thinking, Korean BW is very big with huge leagues(MSL/OSL/SPL). For these leagues, they have map makers, etc. I want to know what you guys thought about an international version of KeSpA. With ELO count and what not for the top foreign players. Also, with maps made by this particular company. Anyhow, let me know your thoughts on this, if there is enough interest, I might invest some time into looking at doing something like this.
Foreigner leagues.
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
This is just an idea, but I was thinking, Korean BW is very big with huge leagues(MSL/OSL/SPL). For these leagues, they have map makers, etc. I want to know what you guys thought about an international version of KeSpA. With ELO count and what not for the top foreign players. Also, with maps made by this particular company. Anyhow, let me know your thoughts on this, if there is enough interest, I might invest some time into looking at doing something like this. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
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Leeoku
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FreezerJumps
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Game
3191 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:29 FreezerJumps wrote: There wasn't even enough interest in a foreigner league at the height of BW popularity, much less now. On this and the already 2 previous negative points: There was not enough interest in such a thing at BW's height because of a lack of organization and community. Everything was spread out, and all leagues, servers, and teams were very capitalistic, therefore nothing was centralized and or overall productive. It was very entertaining, but BW has hit a constant population and centralization, therefore this idea would be more feasible in our current situation. Yes SC2 is huge. Yes BW was cut in half in population. But, the people who have stayed are not only loyal, but have a very intricately united state. With that said, the idea is far fetched because no one is willing to work nearly as hard as KESPA did. The formation of such a thing would take ages given the low amount of people willing to contribute. Gosugamers had the closest thing to a foreign KESPA, and everyone LOVED it, definitely with my inclusion. I mean I really loved Gosugamers attempt at it, they inspired me to do a lot of things that I have done managerially in the BW community. Regardless, far fetched. My advice: Start small (ranking system documenting matches etc) and get a following, and then if after that 6-9 months you still have the motivation and motivated staff to do so, more power to you. | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2057 Posts
Anything that helps the bw community is gold imo though, GL with your idea | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10894 Posts
Of course if this thread gets filled up full of people who doubt he possibility of this happening then yea I highly doubt it will happen unless you are really devoted to making this succeed, i'd try to help anyway I could, and so should all of you. Foreigner BW ! | ||
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
if not, is pretty much impossible. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11603 Posts
team leagues: WGTCL, BWCL, ICCL, FCL if you mean tournaments: WCG, TSL, ESL, For <3 Of The Game, SCForAll, SC2GG, ESWC, TANL, ECG, Estro Superstars, LAN-Z, and a ton of smaller ones. we had college leagues like CSL we also had a very popular nation leagues (nation wars). | ||
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Game
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KP_CollectoR
United States744 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:48 FyRe_DragOn wrote: i like this idea except for the maps part. I think we should stick with the latest korean ones as we are currently doing. I liked the gosugamers rankings, until so many people became inactive that it became obsolete, and many important matches were not recorded etc. Anything that helps the bw community is gold imo though, GL with your idea I just think Foreign maps could be interesting. I mean, there are already countless games played on all the korean maps, I don't see how foreign maps would be any worse. The whole point of this is if the Foreign scene wants to survive, we should base our system off the korean one(not in terms of skill but organization). Foreign maps would be an interesting dynamic with new ideas. | ||
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On June 27 2011 14:02 Jumperer wrote: do a power ranking, then do a barrel roll. How do I do a barrel roll now? | ||
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Tenhou
1052 Posts
You could always do a flame wheel, that should look like a barrel roll. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9571 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:40 Game wrote: On this and the already 2 previous negative points: There was not enough interest in such a thing at BW's height because of a lack of organization and community. Everything was spread out, and all leagues, servers, and teams were very capitalistic, therefore nothing was centralized and or overall productive. It was very entertaining, but BW has hit a constant population and centralization, therefore this idea would be more feasible in our current situation. Yes SC2 is huge. Yes BW was cut in half in population. But, the people who have stayed are not only loyal, but have a very intricately united state. With that said, the idea is far fetched because no one is willing to work nearly as hard as KESPA did. The formation of such a thing would take ages given the low amount of people willing to contribute. Gosugamers had the closest thing to a foreign KESPA, and everyone LOVED it, definitely with my inclusion. I mean I really loved Gosugamers attempt at it, they inspired me to do a lot of things that I have done managerially in the BW community. Regardless, far fetched. My advice: Start small (ranking system documenting matches etc) and get a following, and then if after that 6-9 months you still have the motivation and motivated staff to do so, more power to you. It's funny you talking about BW players unity, since your camp and ICCup are practically at war with each other. I appreciate what you're doing for foreign BW community at the moment, and I also appreciate what ICCup is doing for foreign BW community. But you both need to sort out your problems first, which I don't see happening due to an ego clashes of epic proportions. If EVERYONE was united and centralized like you said, I agree, things like this would be much more feasible. But no matter how small the community is, there will always be two sides and pointless fighting and bickering between them... which sucks. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On June 27 2011 21:20 2Pacalypse- wrote: It's funny you talking about BW players unity, since your camp and ICCup are practically at war with each other. I appreciate what you're doing for foreign BW community at the moment, and I also appreciate what ICCup is doing for foreign BW community. But you both need to sort out your problems first, which I don't see happening due to an ego clashes of epic proportions. If EVERYONE was united and centralized like you said, I agree, things like this would be much more feasible. But no matter how small the community is, there will always be two sides and pointless fighting and bickering between them... which sucks. My Hero has arrived. I think the goals of those who oppose iccup should be to work things out with them first. For BW community to actually thrive we need EVERYONE to support it as a whole, and not these small private events that EXCLUDE people due to personal reasons. Edit: Hey michael how are you? Long time no see... | ||
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Black[CAT]
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