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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
March 03 2011 18:04 GMT
#1
I got a letter from JTV recently stating that we can't stream music anymore unless we have rights to the music or it's freeware music. If any stream re-broadcasts music it doesn't own, the channel gets shut down. (They also mentioned no more re-streaming youtube, other channels, game trailers, etc.)

So they have put a call out for musicians, of any kind, to email them and offer their music to be played on streams. They didn't give too much details, but I'm sure they will work out something beneficial for both parties.

Contact Emmett Sear at emmett at justin dot tv

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YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
March 03 2011 18:10 GMT
#2
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 18:20:54
March 03 2011 18:20 GMT
#3
On March 04 2011 03:10 YunhOLee wrote:
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?


Yeah, sounds pretty strange to me.
I wonder if they can atleast play free internet radio-channels on stream?

e. oh I guess that falls under freeware music?
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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
March 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#4
On March 04 2011 03:20 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 03:10 YunhOLee wrote:
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?


Yeah, sounds pretty strange to me.
I wonder if they can atleast play free internet radio-channels on stream?

e. oh I guess that falls under freeware music?

Depends on the site. Most of the time you can't re-transmit.
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aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
March 03 2011 18:52 GMT
#5
Hrm... Might have to see what sort of deal JTV is going to make Wouldn't mind submitting a few songs.
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Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
March 03 2011 18:54 GMT
#6
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why use Justin tv then?
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
March 03 2011 18:58 GMT
#7
i was kind of suspecting this would come about, its just how the business works.hopefully something gets figured out but otherwise i dont think it would be that big of a hit to have no music on the streams. plus, the players could still set the stream up to not have the music streamed if they want to listen to it that badly.
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DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 19:07:57
March 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#8
On March 04 2011 03:54 Teogamer wrote:
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why use Justin tv then?


Not really. Pretty likely that streaming music before was already illegal, but not a big enough deal for Justin TV to enforce. As their ad revenue increases, they need to cover more of their legal bases.

It's no different than the radio having to licence the music it plays. Or grocery stores, or restaurants.

Not all people actually pay for the use of the music (beyond the initial purchase price) but legally, you are required to.

EDIT: So more specifically, all streaming sites are supposed do this, but do not, necessarily, do this.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 19:11:31
March 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#9
So, this is only a guess.
Jtv seems quite different from the other streaming services since you can actually make profit from it, which we see e.g. incontrol and tyler use (/commercial). For Jtv not to be killed by countless copyright, I think this is a necessary move if this wish to continue their current business model.
Also, as I understand it, the other streaming services are only against people having VODs containing copyrighted stuff.
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
March 03 2011 19:16 GMT
#10
I sent them an email submitting some of my music. Hopefully they'll be interested enough to check it out.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
March 03 2011 19:29 GMT
#11
hmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmm

emailed!
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 03 2011 19:56 GMT
#12
This is somewhat standard from real life stores.. so I dont see why streams online should be any different really. You are using an artists product, you shouldnt be able to use that for free without their permission.

Say you goto a hairdresser / barbershop, or any small store.. If they are playing the radio or any CDs there, they HAVE to pay the music rights to do so. In Canada, they pay SOCAN a business lisence to play public music, its a yearly amount then they can play the radio for that one year.. Im not sure the name of the organization in the US/other countries, but at least in North America, it is required.

The reason why they do this, is so the artists who make those songs can get some money back for their music being played. I am a member of SOCAN, and while I dont have anything on the radio as an artist yet, Its an important part of how musicians make a living. Without royalties we would get very little after the initial sale of the album (which, as you know with illegal downloading these days is basically nothing) and live shows.. If someone is playing our music we should get paid for it.. if you were a graphic design artist, you wouldnt want someone using your graphics on their store without your permission, right?
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 20:04:11
March 03 2011 20:03 GMT
#13
On March 04 2011 04:56 Skyze wrote:
Im not sure the name of the organization in the US/other countries, but at least in North America, it is required.


In America the main one is ASCAP and in the UK (and EU also I believe) its PRS. I'm a member of PRS, but a lot of my stuff isn't registered as I've given it out for free, or on a specific contract.

On March 04 2011 04:56 Skyze wrote:
you wouldnt want someone using your graphics on their store without your permission, right?


This is true, but I think there's something to be said for the exposure that can be gained for artists by hearing commercial music on livestreams. I mean, I've tracked down artists that I've heard on other people's livestreams and, on some occasions, purchased those artist's albums. I wouldn't have made that purchase if I hadn't heard it on the stream.

Also, a lot of what I hear, or what is being heard for free (on services like Spotify or Grooveshark), is being paid for by adverts. Couldn't the stream site just negotiate a percentage of ad revenue to be paid to the collection agencies?
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
March 03 2011 20:17 GMT
#14
What if it's a radio station already streaming for free?
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
March 03 2011 20:46 GMT
#15
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!
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Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
March 03 2011 20:57 GMT
#16
Listen to Korean or chinese music i am sure they won't know what songs they are
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#17
I emailed! Hope he likes the dubsteps.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 03 2011 21:15 GMT
#18
On March 04 2011 05:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!

Yep.

I'm really sad because I set up a new playlist for myself the day the email came @_@
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Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
March 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#19
I'm pretty sure there's a way for you to play music and not have it input into whatever recording software it is you use. So you can have just game sounds/microphone being played while streaming.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
March 03 2011 22:40 GMT
#20
On March 04 2011 05:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!


I have a feeling Nana will be allowed
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