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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 06 2011 20:37 GMT
#1
Howdy,

I've noticed that while typing and doing some light gaming, sometimes my keyboard doesn't actually register key presses and keys often get stuck (such as shift). I've tried cleaning my keyboard (removed all the keys,washed it down/dried, etc) with no luck. So I've decided I want to try out one of those fancy mechanical keyboards (I've always used cheap $10 keyboards from futureshop or something).I've read several posts/threads regarding the different types of keyboard/switches/yadda/yadda.

So yesterday on my way home from class, I checked out this computer store and inquired about a mechanical keyboard. The person working at the store looked at me like I was crazy. I tried to explain what I was looking for, but he said they don't exist and that all they sell were "computer" keyboards.

Having thought about it, I've never seen a mechanical keyboard at a retail store before. So I'm making this blog post to see what people can suggest for me. I'd personally like to try out and "feel" the keyboard before I make a purchase, but without seeing the various keyboards in person I think I'll just have to purchase one online.

So if you have a preference regarding one switch over the other, or if you can recommend a specific keyboard/brand let me know. Also, if anyone knows of any stores that actually carry mechanical keyboards in the Toronto area feel free to post that as well.

Cheers


















Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
April 06 2011 20:41 GMT
#2
I'm personally planning on getting a DAS keyboard (http://www.daskeyboard.com/ the professional one) Check em out =)
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
April 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#3
LOL dude why dont u just get a "computer keyboard" not those crazy mechanical ones =P
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#4
I know quite a few stores carry Razer Blackwidows, not sure where tho near you.

I have it and they're nice
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
April 06 2011 20:46 GMT
#5
Depends what kind of keys you like. Personally, I'm currently using a Steelseries 6g which has full NKRO and cherry blacks. Cherry blacks are kind of nice, there's no noticeable click that you get when you push the key about halfway in like some other kind of switches, but you can definitely tell when you're bottoming the key out and it's quite nice.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 06 2011 20:46 GMT
#6
On April 07 2011 05:44 Antimage wrote:
LOL dude why dont u just get a "computer keyboard" not those crazy mechanical ones =P


haha yeah. I hope that fucker googled the keyboard after I left and was like damn.
Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
April 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#7
NCIX has Das Keyboard with Cherry Blues in stock at both of their Toronto locations, and they have the Das Silent with Browns in stock at their Toronto warehouse (not at retail locations though). Perhaps you can call and see if they would be willing to transfer a silent to one of the retail locations so you can try it out. The Steelseries 6Gv2 is in stock at both of their Toronto retail locations as well, and has Cherry Blacks. The Razer BlackWidow may be in stock at some locations, but they have apparently been a mixed bag quality control-wise, so I personally would avoid it.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#8
I just want to point your attention to their being a ton of threads that help decide on the tech support forum. I for one am using a "das" with brown switches and I am very happy with it.
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Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
April 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#9
Cragus, can someone just walk into NCIX and test out those keyboards? Like do they have them out on display/whatever ?
Nereites
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada102 Posts
April 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#10
On April 07 2011 05:46 prodiG wrote:
Depends what kind of keys you like. Personally, I'm currently using a Steelseries 6g which has full NKRO and cherry blacks. Cherry blacks are kind of nice, there's no noticeable click that you get when you push the key about halfway in like some other kind of switches, but you can definitely tell when you're bottoming the key out and it's quite nice.


I definitely agree with prodiG. I am using the 6g as well (just recently acquired it) and it is amazing. The one thing I recommend you research (if you haven't already) is what switch type you want (Black, blue etc.). Be prepared for some extra noise from typing if you get the Steelseries 6g. Another thing to look at as the key layout. There may be subtle key layout differences from what you are used too. For example, the right shift key is smaller and the \ key is in different spot on my 6g compared to my old keyboard.

Gl finding a new keyboard!

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Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
April 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#11
I've been testing out the steelseries (with black switches I think) that I borrowed from a friend. I think it's too hard and it is really freaking tiring just to play for more than an hour.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
April 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#12
Blue = loud.

Just telling you. I love typing on my Blackwidow. It is loud, but I don't bother anyone with it as far as I know.
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Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 20:57:48
April 06 2011 20:55 GMT
#13
i have das silent, and razer black widow. To be honest, I think the build quality is a quite similar. If you are alone in your computer room, I would lean towards the black widow just because it is cheaper. I bought the das silent because I work in an environment with other people close by.

Razer
Pros:
1. Has quite a few multimedia keys and macro-recording capabilities that are very useful.
2. Nice tactile and clicky Cherry Blue switches. Feels almost like a typewriter.
3. Solid braided cord that looks very durable.
4. Cheap for a mechanical keyboard.

cons:
1. USB ports are 1.1
2. Macro software isn't the greatest (logitech's software is much better)
3. Cherry Blues are very loud, and the clicking will eventually drive any roommate or officemate insane
4. Your first week or two with the keyboard will be very frustrating because of the macro keys on the left. You will think that the 5th macro key is "CTRL", and your hand will shift over one key to the left as a result. You get used to this though.


Das Silent Professional
Pros:
1. It is definitely a lot quieter.
2. USB 2.0 hub
3. No macro/media keys (pro or con depending on your view)
4. Lettering looks a lot more professional.
5. Some say that the browns are better for gaming, especially for double taps. The Blues have this weird thing where the click doesn't actually correspond to the point where the key actuates.


Cons
1. The Cherry Brown switches seem a little less fun to type on though, and have a bit less tactile feedback. I've only had it for a few days, but I seem to bottom out more.
2. Requires two USB ports
3. A bit more expensive (can use student discount though to lessen the price)


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Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
April 06 2011 20:58 GMT
#14
On April 07 2011 05:52 Antimage wrote:
Cragus, can someone just walk into NCIX and test out those keyboards? Like do they have them out on display/whatever ?

I am not sure, but in my experience, NCIX is very good about trying to accommodate the customer, so it is worth a shot (or phone call at least). If all else fails, I recommend getting a board with browns, blues (due to the noise) and blacks (due to the general feel) are both love it or hate it sort of things.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 06 2011 21:08 GMT
#15
wow, so many responses so quickly.
Thanks for all the input guys. The Das Silent Professional is looking pretty appealing.
I'll check out NCIX next weekend and I'll update if they'll let me open a few boxes :p
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#16
For what it's worth, I have had zero problems with my Saitek gaming keyboard and love it.

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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 21:47:00
April 06 2011 21:46 GMT
#17
i personally think steelseries keyboards are better than razer's.
i myself have a steelseries 6gv2 (same as incontrol and idra's) and fuckin love it. check it out.
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Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
April 07 2011 17:01 GMT
#18
I'm not sure about all the different brands of mech keyboards since I bought a steelseries 6gv2 by recommendation by friends.I've found it to be an amazing keyboard and a huge improvement on my old g15. Definitely would recommend - steelseries seems to make pretty good products
Try hard or don't try at all.
shanz3
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway4 Posts
April 07 2011 19:28 GMT
#19
I recently got myself a Razer BlackWidow mechanical keyboard and I'm troughoutly impressed with it. Its as mentioned above a mechanical keyboard, which makes the "clicky" noice when pressed. (You will annoy the crap out of your lan buddies but thats maybe a + in my book haha!) The only complaint I have about it is that it does not have anti ghosting, which enables all the keys to be pressed at the same time and still get registerd on your screen. But its not a big deal, since I tend to press max 2 buttons at once while gaming SC2. (But CS and other FPSs its a bigger problem than so.) I really like razer product and not yet has any of mine failed on me, and they are very sturdy and built to last. Pick one up if you get the chance, its a over all nice keyboard, and better (in my opinion) than the Steelseries G series of keyboards. (Sorry for any type'os above)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 07 2011 20:08 GMT
#20
There's descriptions aplenty around the internet about the different mechanical switches, but you're really not going to fully understand them until you try at least one out as a reference point. I agree with the person who said to go to NCIX and see what they have. My guess is they'll have a BlackWidow (Cherry Blue) and possibly a Steelseries 7g/6gv2 (Cherry black), and those are a pretty good starting point to figure out what you might like.

I do like my 6gv2 quite a bit but it did take time to get used to the different layout. Steelseries, Razer and Das keyboards all have weird little quirks like that, so pay attention. On top of that, keep checking for sales on keyboards at Newegg, Amazon and Slickdeals and use geekhack.org to look for reviews.
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