• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:54
CEST 09:54
KST 16:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo11Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th J188 – Nhà Cái Cá Cược Trực Tuyến Đẳng Cấp Châu Á Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia {D-2} Late to making 20.06.2026 memorable [p]94718
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8945 users

MLG Colombus?

Blogs > DarkPlasmaBall
Post a Reply
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46079 Posts
April 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

I didn't go to MLG Dallas. Not because I *knew* it was going to be a poorly-run tournament with plenty of technical difficulties, but because I live in New Jersey and it just wasn't viable for me to make the trip.

Apparently, the next MLG is in Colombus, Ohio (http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/17), which I could definitely make. I've never been to a SC2 tournament before, and there aren't that many big ones held in the northeastern United States, so this would give me a great chance to experience everything live and meet the pros!

But alas, the extremely poor quality of the MLG events thus far has me hesitant. I'm asking myself many questions. Is the next MLG going to be as unprofessional as Dallas? Is it worth it to go to MLG Colombus, just to meet the pros? Is this an opportunity I'm willing to pass up?

Note that I'm finishing up graduate school this year, and will hopefully be starting to teach high school in the fall. In other words, I'll have pretty much no time (other than part of the summer) to ever go to a big name SC2 tournament.

I'd like some input please, especially from those who have been to big SC2 tournaments before (MLG or other ones). Obviously, MLG was not very well run. However, is the overall experience worth the trip, despite the assumption that there will be a repeat in low quality?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, and I'm going to make a poll too.

Poll: Never been to a SC2 tourny. Go to MLG Colombus?

Yes; the live experience will be worth it, even though it's MLG. (28)
 
88%

No; MLG's reputation is so bad, that Colombus shouldn't be your first tournament. (4)
 
13%

32 total votes

Your vote: Never been to a SC2 tourny. Go to MLG Colombus?

(Vote): Yes; the live experience will be worth it, even though it's MLG.
(Vote): No; MLG's reputation is so bad, that Colombus shouldn't be your first tournament.



Thanks for taking the time to read through this

~DarkPlasmaBall

**
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
rawb
Profile Joined September 2010
United States252 Posts
April 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#2
The stream issues won't be affecting the live event. I'd say go for it, in fact I'm going to be there myself. I made the decision to go before the Dallas event, and I'm sure the major mistakes from the Dallas event will be worked out by Columbus. They had a completely new venue setup and it's to be expected some issues will come up the first time around.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
April 04 2011 15:10 GMT
#3
I'd say that you have the exact right mindset for it. You're interested to see everything (and everyone) live, but you're not expecting perfection. That sounds like a good formula for really enjoying yourself if you ask me.

I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the opportunity.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
Qaz
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
April 04 2011 15:10 GMT
#4
The grandfinals are in Providence, RI, no? You may want to wait for mlg to get their act together and go to that.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
April 04 2011 15:14 GMT
#5
You seriously have to ask if it's worth it to meet some of the best sc2 players in the world, watch games live in a big audience and experience probably the best NA tournament at the moment? get real ^_^ any tournament can "fuck up", it does not mean that the issues will happen at the next mlg, they hopefully will gather a lot of useful information and learn plenty from mlg dallas in order to make the following once run great.
gnomey
Profile Joined October 2010
United States20 Posts
April 04 2011 15:14 GMT
#6
^ pretty much summed it up. After the technical difficulties that happened throughout the weekend, one can only assume that they will make sure that there is not a repeat(game pauses etc.). Besides, if you have nothing else to do and its one of the few chances you will get to go, why not? Even if there are some problems at Columbus I think going and just being able to experience an event would be worth it. You would get to meet some great people and watch some good games in the end so go for it!
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
April 04 2011 15:17 GMT
#7
On April 05 2011 00:10 Qaz wrote:
The grandfinals are in Providence, RI, no? You may want to wait for mlg to get their act together and go to that.

Source? I can't find them mentioning the location of the finals on MLG's website.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 15:21:17
April 04 2011 15:19 GMT
#8
I went to MLG DC last year and let me tell you that the live experience is nowhere near as close to stream. It's way better. I wouldn't say Dallas was poorly run because of the stream problem. Sure it sucks for us but the the people who were there most said it was a blast. At the end what I'm trying to say is don't assume a live experience is going to be the same as what you see on the stream.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 04 2011 15:21 GMT
#9
After reading several blogs on TL recounting the experience of attending an MLG live, in person, I have to say that it's definitely worth the cost even with the perfect storm of technical fuck-ups.

Even MLG Dallas had tremendous streaming and internet problems, apparently the tournament itself was relatively fine. The unstreamed showmatch booth was a site of tons of great games and drama, and it's always great to watch the players playing in the tournament themselves.

Even if the stage lies empty and the streams lie idle, there are still TONS of great games going on that you can spectate. MLG is like watching the best of the TL featured streams bar in real life, all laid out in front of you for your own enjoyment.

Plus, who wouldn't want an autograph from Idra, Huk, Tyler, and others? You're going to witness history, young man. The rise of Western e-sports before your eyes. The birth of memes like "taht's halo" and sensations like Naniwa's roflstomp or SelecT's hero MLG run.

It's one thing to sit at home doing nothing but watching a dead stream (or eagles). It's another thing to be walking around seeing some of your favorite players live in action alongside many like-minded fans.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46079 Posts
April 04 2011 15:25 GMT
#10
On April 05 2011 00:08 rawb wrote:
The stream issues won't be affecting the live event. I'd say go for it, in fact I'm going to be there myself. I made the decision to go before the Dallas event, and I'm sure the major mistakes from the Dallas event will be worked out by Columbus. They had a completely new venue setup and it's to be expected some issues will come up the first time around.


That's what I expected as well, and I'd like to think that (even though he seemed rather emotionless during his apology speech) Sundance and company will eventually realize that they kind of need to get their act together and that they can't repeat all the flaws that came about during Dallas.

On April 05 2011 00:10 HULKAMANIA wrote:
I'd say that you have the exact right mindset for it. You're interested to see everything (and everyone) live, but you're not expecting perfection. That sounds like a good formula for really enjoying yourself if you ask me.

I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the opportunity.


Thanks And you're right in that I'm certainly not expecting perfection; I tend to be a realist in these situations. I'm looking for the experience of going to a live tournament. Because hey, if I just wanted to see really good games that were completely isolated from any sort of tournament feel, I could just catch the VODs whenever they came out ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 15:31:07
April 04 2011 15:26 GMT
#11
I've been to a ton of MLG's over the past 6 years (used to be a competitive halo player), and let me tell you that it is extremelyyyyy worth it to go to an event. The quality of the stream does not reflect the quality of the actual event. MLG isn't a poorly run tournament by any means, there are games to watch running non stop all weekend, booths from all different types of tech/food/drink companies that will provide you with free swag, food, and drink all weekend. The pros mingle with the spectators and it's quite easy to talk, hang out, party, get autographs or whatever you want to do when you meet them. The events just have an atmosphere that is unrivaled by anything else I have ever experienced, so if you have the chance to attend then I would definitely recommend going. Besides, I'll be there too .

EDIT: Sundance is usually roaming the floor as well as a ton of other higher ups that are always more than happy to sit down and discuss what they have in store for MLG or just chat about how you're enjoying the event, etc. It's just an awesome experience.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46079 Posts
April 04 2011 15:28 GMT
#12
On April 05 2011 00:17 neSix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 00:10 Qaz wrote:
The grandfinals are in Providence, RI, no? You may want to wait for mlg to get their act together and go to that.

Source? I can't find them mentioning the location of the finals on MLG's website.


Here's a tentative source, although it's not on MLG's website (as far as I know): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence

Unfortunately, the timing of that event (in November) would probably not allow me to see it
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Qaz
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
April 04 2011 15:30 GMT
#13
^ Yea that's where i got it from.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46079 Posts
April 04 2011 17:24 GMT
#14
Thanks guys for all the feedback

You've definitely renewed my confidence in attending the event ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 04 2011 17:32 GMT
#15
MLG Dallas was run really well this past weekend it might have looked like total crap from home because of all the streaming issues but the actual event in person was run very professionally and smoothly (With some lag issues on Saturday but until sc2 gets lan this will ALWAYS be a possible risk at any sc2 event till the end of time)
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 04 2011 18:03 GMT
#16
Oh man I hope that wiki is tentative or just speculation. I'm definitely planning on going to one if they hold another MLG in Washington DC as I live like 30 min away.

LuckyFool, the impression I got from the videos posted by spectators was that the venue itself was nice with a lot of space and seats, but the viewing experience overall was pretty bad as viewers had to gather around behind the players computers, which were in turn enclosed in a players-only area, and watch only one side of the game off of a 19 inch monitor.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 18:07:18
April 04 2011 18:06 GMT
#17
Yeah I should say that I can't really speak as a spectator I played in the event until 10pm on Saturday so the only day I spent actually only watching was Sunday when things were sorted out more or less.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 1869
Hyuk 727
Hm[arnc] 350
Killer 245
Larva 220
ToSsGirL 124
HiyA 24
Sacsri 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
NotJumperer 9
League of Legends
JimRising 673
Counter-Strike
summit1g8900
Stewie2K965
m0e_tv834
Other Games
C9.Mang0389
KnowMe140
RuFF_SC243
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4044
Other Games
gamesdonequick701
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 55
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1878
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3h 6m
GSL
4h 6m
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
11h 6m
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
16h 6m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 3h
GSL
1d 4h
Patches Events
1d 9h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 11h
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 16h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.