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oesis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
117 Posts
February 07 2011 05:22 GMT
#1
I was recently browsing a funny news site when I came across an article that seemed rather sinister on second glance.

It was an article about a pizza place selling record amount of pizzas to the inmates of a prison for the Superbowl.

Prizon Pizza Article

The reason I find this suspicious is that the food isn't being sold just as some random reward to the inmates but as a fundraiser, specifically for a spiritual life center.

I imagine prison food isn't very good, so when given an option to eat good food, its hardly a choice at all. So in essence they are forcing the prisoners to pay for something by giving them an offer they can't refuse(technically only 800 out of 2000 ordered food).

On a side and lesser note there's the fact that it's funding a spiritual center, which I take as being related to religion, though not necessarily. But if so, it implies prisoners are being coerced by the prison to give money to a religious center, which to me seems fishy.

Still this method of "fund raising", seems extremely vulnerable to abuse, as the prisoners would support it regardless of what the cause on the other end is, because they want the reward the prison is offering.

Now I doubt any one would complain about it but to me it just feels like the prisoners are being taken advantage of.


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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
February 07 2011 05:29 GMT
#2
I think you're reading too far into it. I'm pretty sure the prisoners are not going to be upset that they have the opportunity to get an alternative food source for a day, regardless of who it's funding. And you said it yourself, less than half of them even did it, so it doesn't necessarily sound like very strong coercion
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 07 2011 05:33 GMT
#3
They're not being coerced. They don't have to buy the damn pizza. What circuitous logic. And they didn't have to commit crimes either. Next you'll claim the prisoners are being taken advantage of because the prison canteen charges higher prices than the grocery store. It's prison! They're lucky they're not paying for their room and board.
oesis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
117 Posts
February 07 2011 06:01 GMT
#4
Stork, my problem isn't that there being charged money, the problem is the money is being used to fund something. If the story was prisoners charged money for pizza, I would have no problem with it. However the money from the pizza is being used to fund an organization. It just seems to me that potentially prison wardens could funnel money into anything, by offering things to prisoners this way.

Also just because you aren't forced to do something doesn't mean you aren't being coerced.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
February 07 2011 06:20 GMT
#5
Could they use the money for something better? yes.
Is it wrong to build this thing with the money? Unless it is telling us all to take off our clothes and have 'free love' no.

I think you are reading too far into it... or not looking at what is really important... what is the spiritual center? find out what it does and then come up with a conclusion to your question.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
February 07 2011 14:26 GMT
#6
Whether or not the money is being used to fund something is irrelevant. If the prisoners really want some pizza, they're going to pay for it regardless of whether or not their money is something else.

If I'm at a bake sale and I want that delicious cupcake, I'm going to buy that cupcake no matter who they're raising funds for.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
February 07 2011 15:25 GMT
#7
yeah that's some damn shitty logic. you think pizza hut is somehow superior to prison food... you are clearly not from nj/ny and you lack italian blood.

and you also have a really shitty definition for 'coercion' that you should probably fix

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