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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 12 2010 23:01 GMT
#1
So I'm a graffiti enthusiast, and I'm not the best there is.

I favor wildstyle and tags but occasionally I'll venture into wheatpaste and stenciling.

I had a serious spurt of inspiration with my StarCraft friends here and decided to take a knife to a paper plate.

Here's the result on a pizza box!
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[image loading]


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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 12 2010 23:04 GMT
#2
that's awesome!

Now start vandalizing your school!
Celestii
Profile Joined November 2010
18 Posts
December 12 2010 23:42 GMT
#3
Graffti is nothing but vandalism.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 23:45:23
December 12 2010 23:44 GMT
#4
google banksy it is hard to call what he does vandalism, this on the other hand would be 100% vandalism
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 12 2010 23:52 GMT
#5
On December 13 2010 08:42 Celestii wrote:
Graffti is nothing but vandalism.


Graffiti is the art of rebellion - check out guys like above or d-face. I fucking love Street Art, its a great form of expressing your thoughts on society, of being creative and addressing pop culture problems. Simply put, you are just out there - ppl see you. Graffiti is very influential, if it has the right message presented in the most creative, but easy for the guy on the street to understand, way possible.

DivinO, thats really really cool. Keep it up
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 13 2010 00:01 GMT
#6
On December 13 2010 08:52 disciple wrote:
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On December 13 2010 08:42 Celestii wrote:
Graffti is nothing but vandalism.


Graffiti is the art of rebellion - check out guys like above or d-face. I fucking love Street Art, its a great form of expressing your thoughts on society, of being creative and addressing pop culture problems. Simply put, you are just out there - ppl see you. Graffiti is very influential, if it has the right message presented in the most creative, but easy for the guy on the street to understand, way possible.

DivinO, thats really really cool. Keep it up

Unless the OP is getting permission before spray-painting people's walls, it is vandalism, and calling it "Street Art" is not going to change that.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 13 2010 00:04 GMT
#7
why? because you are doing smth thats prohibited by the law ?
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 13 2010 00:07 GMT
#8
Destroying or defacing private or public property is against the law, yes. It's also vandalism. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. Doing something that's prohibited by law as an act of rebellion does not entitle the result to be called "Art."
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 13 2010 00:12 GMT
#9
1. Made with the support of the local police and the owner of the property - Street art
[image loading]

2. Made against the will of the property owner and without the support of the state - vandalism
[image loading]




is that what you are trying to say ?
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
TheHatterisMad
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada20 Posts
December 13 2010 00:19 GMT
#10
I think you're drawing a false dichotomy there, its not either street art or vandalism. Street art made against the will of the property owner is definitely filed under vandalism as well. Sure it can look nice and display powerful meaning, but what of the owner of the property? they now have a defaced wall and depending on whether they want to keep it or not they may have to pay for the cleanup and restoration cost. Graffiti can be beautiful but its oftentimes at the expense of an innocent individual who had no say in the matter.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 00:24:57
December 13 2010 00:22 GMT
#11
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On December 13 2010 09:12 disciple wrote:
1. Made with the support of the local police and the owner of the property - Street art
[image loading]

2. Made against the will of the property owner and without the support of the state - vandalism
[image loading]




is that what you are trying to say ?

OK I don't know what your deal is but you need to read my post.

Doing something that's prohibited by law as an act of rebellion does not entitle the result to be called "Art."
I'm gonna stand by that because in my eyes rebellion does not make something artful. Lighting a car on fire is not artful. At least not when it's someone else's car.

Nowhere did I say that Street Art can't exist. Now, in regards to the image above I would say that one is vandalism and the other is not. That much is obvious. Whether or not either of them is art is up to the individual on the street to decide, but if you are implying that the illegal one is more art than the legal one, i'm worried for you.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 13 2010 00:29 GMT
#12
so then you see vandalism purely as act of behavior. I mean if the picture explicitly said "made with the support of the owner and the local police" you were going to look at it in an entirely different way. am I right?
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
OpRaider
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States307 Posts
December 13 2010 00:35 GMT
#13
It's on a pizza box guys, chill.
it is what it is -day9 airplane story
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
December 13 2010 00:39 GMT
#14
On December 13 2010 09:07 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Destroying or defacing private or public property is against the law, yes. It's also vandalism. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. Doing something that's prohibited by law as an act of rebellion does not entitle the result to be called "Art."


.... Illegal = Not art?
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 01:06:23
December 13 2010 00:41 GMT
#15
On December 13 2010 09:39 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 09:07 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Destroying or defacing private or public property is against the law, yes. It's also vandalism. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. Doing something that's prohibited by law as an act of rebellion does not entitle the result to be called "Art."


.... Illegal = Not art?


... Wrong and not what I said at all. Maybe you don't have top notch english comprehension but give me a break.


On December 13 2010 09:29 disciple wrote:
so then you see vandalism purely as act of behavior. I mean if the picture explicitly said "made with the support of the owner and the local police" you were going to look at it in an entirely different way. am I right?

I didn't post in this thread to be an art critic. I'm here to point out that altering people's property without their permission is vandalism. Not only is it against reasonable laws in most countries but most level-headed people will agree that vandalism is not a cool thing to do to your fellow man.

The most direct answer I can give to your question is that I'm actually going to look at the "artist" in an entirely different way, and the "art" perhaps slightly differently. I'm not really interested in continuing with this interrogation either.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
December 13 2010 00:42 GMT
#16
That's pretty neat. Would be cool to see. Hopefully somewhere discreet or acceptable - like at a skate park
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 13 2010 00:47 GMT
#17
great stencil

keep it up! would love to see some extended work on other races/units
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 00:49:53
December 13 2010 00:48 GMT
#18
On December 13 2010 09:41 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 09:39 OmgIRok wrote:
On December 13 2010 09:07 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Destroying or defacing private or public property is against the law, yes. It's also vandalism. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. Doing something that's prohibited by law as an act of rebellion does not entitle the result to be called "Art."


.... Illegal = Not art?


... Wrong and not what I said at all. Give me a break.

dont worry, I really see where are you coming from, I really do, but that was not my point saying graffiti is the art of rebellion. If you look at graffiti as an act of behavior, then you are absolutely right - just like making a sculpture is nothing more than shaping up a stone or another material. But in both cases I see graffiti and making sculptures as a way to express artistic thought, not as an activity. Vandalism is an activity and I dont see graffiti as an activity, its a tool, its means of saying something. Thats the way street artists see their work, thats the way ppl who enjoy it, look at it.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 00:50:37
December 13 2010 00:49 GMT
#19
On December 13 2010 09:12 disciple wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Made with the support of the local police and the owner of the property - Street art
[image loading]

2. Made against the will of the property owner and without the support of the state - vandalism
[image loading]




is that what you are trying to say ?



you can almost replicate your analogy with euthansia

killed with the support law = mercy?

killed without the support law = murder?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 13 2010 01:13 GMT
#20
Disciple, please read my last post because I edited in some more.
I dont see graffiti as an activity, its a tool, its means of saying something
Perhaps this dissociation alleviates the guilt you would otherwise feel from being a public burden.
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