On August 14 2010 11:58 muse5187 wrote:
I think everyone is forgetting he's just a kid, lighten up. Why does tl.net feel so threatened by a child?

This... and to keep Chill off my back (for good reason, one word posts are stupid...)

I happen to thoroughly enjoy a few Justin Bieber songs... Baby, Somebody to Love, and a couple others make me happy ^.^

ella_guru

Canada1741 Posts

August 14 2010 05:43 GMT

#122

On August 14 2010 11:27 SubtleArt wrote:

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On August 14 2010 09:48 ella_guru wrote:

On August 14 2010 07:02 SubtleArt wrote:

On August 14 2010 05:54 Megalisk wrote:

On August 14 2010 05:51 SubtleArt wrote:

Look, I get it. Everyone hates Justin Bieber. Why? Probably because he's famous and he's everywhere.

No, that's not why I hate him. I hate him cause his music is total corporate trash. Complete garbage, half of which is autotuned, that any competent studio can write and fart out in a week. It's really reflective of the state of the whole industry now. That's why I hate him. Wtf happened to musical skill? When bands required technical skill and creativity, not just a catchy beat, drum loop. and then have everything else done on a computer. I swear you could combine all of the talent it popular music today and it wouldn't even amount to half the talent bands like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin had.

Kids like what sounds good to them, they could care less about the process. I'm not a fan of Biebers music, but that doesn't mean I hate the kid and hope he gets pelted with objects at his concerts. Also Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd's music bores the shit out of me, I could care less about how much talent they had.

Yea, and it's depressing how many people like music so superficial and basic. Also, you can hate Led Zeppelin and Floyd all you want, but that's not really the point. I was just commenting on how being famous in the music industry required talent back then. Bieber has absolutely no talent, and he doesn't even write his own songs.

Just curious btw, what kind of music do you listen to?

On August 14 2010 05:55 ella_guru wrote:

On August 14 2010 05:51 SubtleArt wrote:

Look, I get it. Everyone hates Justin Bieber. Why? Probably because he's famous and he's everywhere.

No, that's not why I hate him. I hate him cause his music is total corporate trash. Complete garbage, half of which is autotuned, that any competent studio can write and fart out in a week. It's really reflective of the state of the whole industry now. That's why I hate him. Wtf happened to musical skill? When bands required technical skill and creativity, not just a catchy beat, drum loop. and then have everything else done on a computer. I swear you could combine all of the talent in popular music today and it wouldn't even amount to a fraction the talent bands like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin had.

You are stuck in some romantic land of the 70s . You cite two of the most successful rock bands of all time and say "whatever happeneeeed" ? There is WAY more expression and creativity going on these days, but it's people like you who just have a hard on for a era when they were just a twinkle in their father's eye who stunt the growth.

"It's people like you...blah blah blah". How is me posting on a forum stunting a guy thousands of miles away from making good music? I'm open to any artist but the truth is there really isn't that much expression and creativity these days, especially in popular music. If there was I'd be the first to buy, but there isn't. Also I don't have a hard on for the 70s, I listen to a lot of music from different genres and time periods.

The truth is there is ABSOLUTELY TONS of it. With the technology out, almost anyone can get their ideas down. Things are just a lot more niche these days since people can find a perfect fit, instead of having to pick one of the few things to make it to CD like it used to be. In the mainstream, no , but that's looking in the wrong place. Obviously the most interesting things aren't going to be in the mainstream, which is diluted to appeal to the widest demographic.

Can you kindly name some bands then?

Ye sure I'll PM you. Do you have any preferences?

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

August 14 2010 06:07 GMT

#123

People that say Justin Bieber has no talent are mistaken. Justin Bieber is clearly more skilled at music than the average person, but I do however agree that the amount of skill and talent that he does possess is inadequate for the music industry. His music's quality is on par with garage bands and people that perform at cafes. His fame and fortune is derived from gullible fangirls who have no taste in music and love Justin Bieber just because they think everyone else loves him. With illegitimate love comes illegitimate hate to balance it out. If I was a loyal fan of a really good band or singer that has less fame and fortune than Justin Bieber, I would probably feel the same as well. Simply choosing not to buy tickets to Justin Bieber's concerts does not solve any disparity in the world. That's the motivation behind chucking stuff at Justin Bieber, or sending him to North Korea. I don't mind Justin Bieber that much, but he is a good lesson to us that respect is far more important that money.

love1another

United States1844 Posts

August 14 2010 06:53 GMT

#124

On August 14 2010 15:07 Chairman Ray wrote:
People that say Justin Bieber has no talent are mistaken. Justin Bieber is clearly more skilled at music than the average person, but I do however agree that the amount of skill and talent that he does possess is inadequate for the music industry. His music's quality is on par with garage bands and people that perform at cafes. His fame and fortune is derived from gullible fangirls who have no taste in music and love Justin Bieber just because they think everyone else loves him. With illegitimate love comes illegitimate hate to balance it out. If I was a loyal fan of a really good band or singer that has less fame and fortune than Justin Bieber, I would probably feel the same as well. Simply choosing not to buy tickets to Justin Bieber's concerts does not solve any disparity in the world. That's the motivation behind chucking stuff at Justin Bieber, or sending him to North Korea. I don't mind Justin Bieber that much, but he is a good lesson to us that respect is far more important that money.

Incorrect. Justin Bieber is a marketing genius and produces high-quality pop. He knows his target audiences and he knows it well.

1.)Listen to his lyrics. As a 20 something male, you might find the vulnerability in "baby, baby, baby, oooh" or the complete devotion "you're my one love, my one life, my one heart for sure..." completely ridiculous. But pretend you're a 14-year-old girl. That's love, baby.

2.) His soaring pop melodies that stick comfortably to the major key (especially I, IV, V, totally classic pseudo-pachelbel) make his songs ridiculously hummable. You hear it once and it's stuck in your head. One listen on the radio, and your kids are gonna want to go to his next concert/ buy his album/ go watch his new vids on youtube.

3.) And the beats that he's somehow tricked the biggest names in the business to do for him makes his songs passable dance music as well. Bieber is almost up there with Miley Cyrus up in the high-end bars of Shanghai :p

erektion

Canada62 Posts

August 14 2010 07:14 GMT

#125

not sure where all this hate is coming from. he is indeed talented and he is doing something that many of us wish we could do.

how can you hate him without actually getting to know him?

Trizz

Netherlands1323 Posts

August 14 2010 07:17 GMT

#126

I think it's pretty funny

muse5187

1125 Posts

August 14 2010 15:00 GMT

#127

On August 14 2010 16:14 erektion wrote:
not sure where all this hate is coming from. he is indeed talented and he is doing something that many of us wish we could do.

how can you hate him without actually getting to know him?

jealousy seems to be the main contributing factor.

nayumi

Australia6499 Posts

August 14 2010 15:19 GMT

#128

Not THAT big of a deal but a pathetic action nonetheless ... But its showbiz