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WniO
United States2706 Posts
Poll fun Poll: Golf is the bomb (26) is cool (10) is boring (7) is lame (5) 48 total votes Your vote: Golf (Vote): is the bomb  | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
Trying to get better though... | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
one of my favorite things is city executive courses that are always cheap. Just go there with my friends, pay 10 bucks, crack open a few beers and relax for 18 holes. | ||
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Sadist
United States7228 Posts
http://clubsg.skygolf.com/golfers/laconic517 | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
Driving average: 270~80ish (R9 is the best driver out there) Score average: Around mid-high 80s~90s | ||
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ClanOverdosed
691 Posts
Driving Average around 250 (I weigh 111 lbs 5'8") Score average: 80's | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
I wanted to play golf but it was too expensive  | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
I really can't get down to 70's... GG Driving average: 270~80ish (R9 is the best driver out there) Score average: Around mid-high 80s~90s I know its cliche, but its all about the short game. Unless you whack several OB a round off the tee, if your not shooting lower the biggest issue is almost always the short game. If you're short game is like the typical 10-15 handicaps you can easily shave 5 or more a round by getting reasonably decent at chipping and putting. Moreso if you get some wedge consistency from inside 100 yards. Sounds like you hit the ball plenty far, so your fundamentals aren't garbage, its just a matter of honing your game so your bad misses aren't as bad; and improving your short game. Driving average: 310-330 Score average: 73.8 tournament average last season. Typical score is probably 68-75. | ||
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ClanOverdosed
691 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
It all about the up and downs mang This is so true. I mean if you watched a scratch player next to a tour player hitting drivers you probably couldnt tell who was who. Get to the shorter irons and you probably have a good idea who the tour pro is. Get down to the chipping and putting and it will be clear as day. Almost any decent kid coming up today, even at high school ranks, drives it 270+. I can't tell you how many times I played with kids that would bomb hit consistently 330+ and then take 35 putts and shoot 78; despite having sand wedge into five pars and pitches into par 4's. Its the finer aspects like distance control and short game that seperate solid players, from good ones, from great ones, from "S-Class" players. | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On June 04 2010 12:23 L_Master wrote: I played with kids that would bomb hit consistently 330+ I fucking CANNOT STAND people like you. "Oh I rocked that 300+" No, in fact you didn't. Do you know how far 330 yards is? Look at the average drives of PGA professionals. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On June 04 2010 12:27 Chill wrote: I fucking CANNOT STAND people like you. "Oh I rocked that 300+" No, in fact you didn't. Do you know how far 330 yards is? Look at the average drives of PGA professionals. True. However, I also live in Colorado, where the ball flys at least 10% farther than sea level. 330 here turns into 300 at sea level. Also, if you look at many of the top pros they hit it around 300, maybe a little more on average, which includes holes on which the may not use driver (though they usually select holes the player will hit driver on). But a player who drives the ball 300+ yards average will hit plenty of drives in the course of a round that are 330+. When I say a player consistently hits the ball 330+ what I'm trying to say is that it is routine for them to hit tee shots of this length, even though they may not average this distance. Also, most kids these days that are serious junior and certainly college golfers have a plenty of power. They have grown up emulating players like Tiger and Phil, as well as constantly having the benefits of distance bombarded at them and as a result, most of them have learned to hit the ball quite far. There are plenty of kids in the collegiate and lower tours that hit it quite a bit further than most of the professionals on the PGA Tour. | ||
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Sadist
United States7228 Posts
On June 04 2010 12:23 L_Master wrote: This is so true. I mean if you watched a scratch player next to a tour player hitting drivers you probably couldnt tell who was who. Get to the shorter irons and you probably have a good idea who the tour pro is. Get down to the chipping and putting and it will be clear as day. Almost any decent kid coming up today, even at high school ranks, drives it 270+. I can't tell you how many times I played with kids that would bomb hit consistently 330+ and then take 35 putts and shoot 78; despite having sand wedge into five pars and pitches into par 4's. Its the finer aspects like distance control and short game that seperate solid players, from good ones, from great ones, from "S-Class" players. this really isnt true. Lots of people overrate scratch players. Scratch really isnt shit at all in terms of golfing ability. Obviously you werent saying scratch players can compete with tour professionals which Im not accusing you of I just wanted to bring up a point .The courses the tour plays are all surely rated well over 76 on the course rating so a scratch player on their better days (roughly 50% of their time) would at best shoot 4 over. How good the tour players are is fucking insane. Id imagine youd have to at least be a +5 to 6 to be on tour and when Tiger is on hes probably close to a +8. But ya short game does separate the very top tier players a long with the mental game. Seriously if you go to a tour event and go to the driving range it will make you sick how good they hit the ball. Also if you watch them in person standing on a single tee you can bet 2/3 of them will hit the fairway at the very least and almost always 1 person in the group makes birdie on the hole or at least 1 person birdies the hole every other group. Oh and ya people overrate their distance so much. The longest driver I ever played with hit it probably 310 regularly and occasionally could put it out there 330. He was also 6'4" and gangly so that helps a lot in terms of leverage. I myself hit it about 270 ish lately as long as I make relatively good contact. My best ones are up around 285-290. A few years ago a took a couple lessons and was hitting it around 290+ most of the time. It was so much easier. Every par 5 was reachable that I played and it was nice having driver wedge or driver 9 iron into 450+ yard par 4's from time to time =) | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
. How good the tour players are is fucking insane. Id imagine youd have to at least be a +5 to 6 to be on tour and when Tiger is on hes probably close to a +8. Totally true. I believe the average Tour handicap has been estimated at around +6 (like you said), and Tiger (based on estimated slope/CR) has been estimated as high as +10.5 which is so off the charts crazy its ridiculous. Its crazy though how big of a gap that scratch to +6 is. Going from a 5 or 6 to a scratch handicap isn't absurdly hard if you put in some good practice time on the right things. Getting deep into the plus handicaps is a whole nother matter. I practiced, and pretty efficiently I feel, for about 6 hours a day last summer and barely went from around a 1 or so handicap to a +2. And while I'm a decent player I can't even sniff at the skill a tour pro has; its just a whole different level. A 3 and a 5 or 6 handicapper are somewhat close in ability; but a +3 and a +6 are in a whole different league altogether. | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
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leftykill
United States120 Posts
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
I'm a 2 now. Got back into golf last summer after a decade or so off. (I was a ranked jr player, +2 cap at one time, I'm 27 now) Last summer I got it back to 3, this summer I got it back to scratch for a week or so but finished the year (damn canadian weather) at 2. I play on a fairly tough course, breaking par doesn't happen too often, and that is what you need to do consistently to get to scratch. What I find helps me the most are my playing partners. The course I play at has a ton of fun guys and I'd say we've got 40 or so players that are a 3 cap or below, and 5 or 6 that are legit +1 - +3. Playing with these guys really pushes you to work get better. Anyone in Ontario or nearby should check out the Kawartha Invitational tournament in Peterborough. It's the only 3 day amateur invitational event in Ontario, has past winners like David Morland IV and Moe Norman, and is super fun to play in! PM me for info if you'd like. | ||
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