• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:27
CEST 05:27
KST 12:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview4[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1847 users

Determining the best players of NA server - Page 2

Blogs > dacthehork
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
arcology
Profile Joined April 2009
United States92 Posts
April 09 2010 17:41 GMT
#21
Should be suggested that you invite something like:
25% tournament winners/top finishers, yes that might have to include 'lesser' tournaments if no big ones have happened
75% top X in ladder ratings
0% guyz who were good in sc1 and obv must be at this one too
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 17:43:39
April 09 2010 17:41 GMT
#22
I am pretty sure Team Quebec wasn't in it(Smuft's) because SLush was kind of saying I cannot play that day...
Brood War forever!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 18:09:06
April 09 2010 18:07 GMT
#23
On April 10 2010 01:50 Xeris wrote:
What does the "this is beta" argument have to do with it. I see a bunch of retards repeating this statement without having any clue as to what it means. Do you realize that there are cash tournaments happening on a weekly basis, and as such it matters A LOT who the perceived "best" players are right now?

Nobody gives a shit if the players who are good right now are good in 2 years, but when determining who to invite for events and stuff, it is actually really important to want to have the best players possible, and as such, knowing who the best players are is equally important. The fact that SC2 is in beta stages literally has nothing to do with it.

-.-


Ditto this, especially when some of the $$$ tourneys are invite only so the perception of who the best players are is in fact really important.

I think the issue is that among the top there are lots of players who are fairly close in skill. Since the game is not as much of a science as broodwar was (it hasn't been "solved" and patches are occurring frequently) on a given day it is likely any player in the top 5% of skill level could beat any other player.

I'm hoping that some of these upcoming weekly cash tourneys on the US server (which so far the US server has lacked) will give all players a chance to have themselves shown.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 19:41:00
April 09 2010 19:40 GMT
#24
Sure they are all good players you listed but theres a lot of other good players out there that aren't noticed.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 19:59:14
April 09 2010 19:58 GMT
#25
On April 10 2010 03:07 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 01:50 Xeris wrote:
What does the "this is beta" argument have to do with it. I see a bunch of retards repeating this statement without having any clue as to what it means. Do you realize that there are cash tournaments happening on a weekly basis, and as such it matters A LOT who the perceived "best" players are right now?

Nobody gives a shit if the players who are good right now are good in 2 years, but when determining who to invite for events and stuff, it is actually really important to want to have the best players possible, and as such, knowing who the best players are is equally important. The fact that SC2 is in beta stages literally has nothing to do with it.

-.-


Ditto this, especially when some of the $$$ tourneys are invite only so the perception of who the best players are is in fact really important.

I think the issue is that among the top there are lots of players who are fairly close in skill. Since the game is not as much of a science as broodwar was (it hasn't been "solved" and patches are occurring frequently) on a given day it is likely any player in the top 5% of skill level could beat any other player.

I'm hoping that some of these upcoming weekly cash tourneys on the US server (which so far the US server has lacked) will give all players a chance to have themselves shown.

My opinion means absolutely nothing on skill in the beta given I've never touched it, but would any high level player possibly agree that among the top 5%, there's another subdivision of players who have better habits than the rest? Particularly with regards to scouting.and a few other smaller things. I don't know if it's translated into more tournament success and even with all the VODs I watch, it's probably <1% of the games they've played.

I'm not sure how to describe it. Maybe it's just a matter of refinement. Some of the best players seem to do more things correctly, or at least more efficiently, than the other players. Anyone agree, or should I just follow IdrA's suggestion?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 09 2010 21:03 GMT
#26
Idra's the man, even if he only has 1 friend.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 09 2010 22:10 GMT
#27
On April 09 2010 21:00 IdrA wrote:
i was going to simply post that you're a retard and you should shut up because your opinions are uninformed bullshit. however i was recently banned and warned that, while it was acceptable for me to tell stupid people that theyre stupid, i must do so in a more indirect manner so that certain moderators with weak stomachs are not offended.
as such;
good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers.

as expected
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
April 09 2010 22:17 GMT
#28
Garmimto is the best. End of thread.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 09 2010 22:23 GMT
#29
On April 10 2010 07:17 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Garmimto is the best. End of thread.


garmimto

indeed
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Scrap
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
April 10 2010 00:00 GMT
#30
Ok, cool everyone has their own opinion on who is better right now... nothing else is expected.

How about we grow up, and maybe you can ask for their to be 8 teams next time instead of 4 (as opposed to being biased for your team). That probably won't happen in Smuft's Tournament's case for betting purposes, but letting TL know you think you're better doesn't really help.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 10 2010 00:08 GMT
#31
It's me. I am the best player in the USA server.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
April 10 2010 03:28 GMT
#32
On April 10 2010 09:08 motbob wrote:
It's me. I am the best player in the USA server.


It's a wild Motbob!
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 03:30:17
April 10 2010 03:30 GMT
#33
On April 10 2010 09:08 motbob wrote:
It's me. I am the best player in the USA server.


Me best kk?

+ Show Spoiler +
Bo5 gogo?
Writer
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
22:45
Patches' Patch Clash #6.5
davetesta35
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 220
Nina 101
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 919
yabsab 61
Noble 33
Bale 20
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm170
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 646
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv6091
Other Games
summit1g14244
WinterStarcraft368
ViBE140
monkeys_forever110
Livibee50
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1118
BasetradeTV111
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo632
Other Games
• Scarra548
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 33m
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
12h 33m
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
15h 33m
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.