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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 04 2009 01:36 GMT
#21
how old is savior ?
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8554 Posts
December 04 2009 01:36 GMT
#22
He hasn't entered toward Savior's territory, both good and bad. That's at least 2 more years and 16 more Starleagues.
Jaedong
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 01:40:21
December 04 2009 01:39 GMT
#23
no, they are on the same page. By savior, it started 2 years ago, but nobody accepted it until very recently. Besides I dont think both should follow the exact same pattern of "burning out"
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 04 2009 01:39 GMT
#24
savior just had his birthday i believe, so 23 korean
sAviOr...
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
December 04 2009 01:40 GMT
#25
Bisu deserves fans too as well as people to tell his story.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8554 Posts
December 04 2009 01:41 GMT
#26
On December 04 2009 10:39 disciple wrote:
no, they are on the same page. By savior, it started 2 years ago, but nobody accepted it until very recently

Hm...I'll wait a little longer. If he starts dipping into more losses than wins at the PL, then maybe.
Jaedong
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 01:46:11
December 04 2009 01:45 GMT
#27
On December 04 2009 10:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
He is 21. What are you talking about? Just because he started earlier doesn't mean he won't win anymore, just wait for another Club Day. You're downplaying his potential to avoid disappointment, but there's seriously no permanent decline in his skill right now.

I didn't know Jaedong fans could be Bisu fans o_o;

I always saw a bitter rivalry between the two factions. In fact I feel that the most bitter Bisu anti fans practically worship Jaedong.

I dislike how many of these Bisu-anti-fans-Jaedong-worshippers only like Oz because of Jaedong. Jaedong loves his team, why can't some of his own fans?

I'd still be an SKT1 fan even if Bisu left. Heck I'd be an SKT fan if the Doh-Taek-Myung trio left. I still love Bisu a LOT, though. Despite the many negative opinions of him, he DID change PvZ a LOT. His nickname in Korea IS the Revolutionist, even if anti fans say he did nothing to change the matchup.

Any way, as far as I am concerned Avidkeystamper, you're one of the few people I would call a true fan of Hwaseung Oz, as opposed to an anti Protoss anti Bisu Jaedong worshipping Zerg obsessed fan .
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8554 Posts
December 04 2009 01:49 GMT
#28
I'm not a Bisu fan, I just don't hate him because he plays entertaining games. But firstly, I'm a realist, and nothing now indicates that Bisu will never likely win another SL. Except it'll be a fitting end and it'll be like a historical pattern, but that's not good evidence at all.
Jaedong
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 04 2009 01:50 GMT
#29
On December 04 2009 10:45 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I didn't know Jaedong fans could be Bisu fans o_o;

Why is it that surprising? Just because those that are stupid enough to hate a player are vocal about it doesn't mean that they're the sole faction, or even the majority.

Most sane fans I'm sure have no ill will against any player that delivers good games. Both Jaedong and Bisu have consistently delivered in the past. Any ill will against them is simple idiocy (how can you hate someone whose personality or ideals you've only ever seen a small glimpse of?).
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
December 04 2009 02:44 GMT
#30
On December 04 2009 10:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 10:45 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I didn't know Jaedong fans could be Bisu fans o_o;

(how can you hate someone whose personality or ideals you've only ever seen a small glimpse of?).

I would love to know the answer to that question. Someone actually said to me in one of the viewer streams "I hate Bisu with a burning passion, if I ever meet the guy I swear I'm gonna kill him."

It was scary actually o_o;
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Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 05:10:15
December 04 2009 03:05 GMT
#31
On December 04 2009 09:38 disciple wrote:
KTY's success for that period came in 2007 and predated the rise of both his rivals, which he is referred to nowadays - Flash and Jaedong. I will never put these 3 in the same category thou. Bisu is just not in the same generation. Kim Taek Yong is the transition from the bonjwa autocracy that savior was


I disagree. Actually Savior is the transition between the old schools and current generation. He beat every big name before him and lost to a representative of the new generation. Bisu definitely belongs to"this" generation.

I was sad yesterday as every other Bisu fan. Swallowing failure is a big depression for all of us. But I still have that dream of watching his next SL finals on site. Dragons hibernate, till next spring.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 04:05:41
December 04 2009 03:59 GMT
#32
I don't know... I wouldn't count Bisu out. I haven't been keeping up with the pro scene much these days (so I don't know how bad it looks), but the last time people said he was done and he was going to do nothing but decline, he came back within a few months. I don't even think anything had ever really changed on his side either. He has always been somewhat inconsistent. Read the first power rank.

The only thing that really changed was Zergs got better at dealing with him, and his PvP looked a bit worse on paper than it really was because he got swept by Stork. Then he had the wrist thing, which people thought was just an excuse (and maybe it was, but it's hard to argue he didn't play better the more time went on after that came out).

What I really love about Bisu is two things:

1. When he's on his game, he can pull off practically anything. He never ceases to astound me. It's something more than Jaedong's mechanical perfection in my eyes.
2. Even if he isn't completely on his game, he's usually able to grind out a win, or at least make it close. It might be really ugly, but oh well.

He is a bit of a roller coaster. Some of his games he just completely punts. But in the end, I think that's part of why I like him so much. He's superhuman, and yet human. He doesn't even have to try at times, and other times he seems completely vulnerable.

He's quite different from the past bonjwas, but I personally I'll take Kim Taek Yong over total domination.
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
December 04 2009 04:03 GMT
#33
Good read.
Always a fan of Bisu whether he wins or loses!
Making history not reliving it.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 04 2009 04:12 GMT
#34
Remember most of 2008? That was a tough year for Bisu.
Hell, even earlier this year when he got knocked out of both leagues early on, that was something.
He's come back from worse dips before.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 04 2009 04:19 GMT
#35
atleast bisu will be able to devote his time to cleaning up proleague now
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
December 04 2009 06:55 GMT
#36
I believe It was a lot more difficult for Bisu himself in early 2008 in terms of depth of his slump. But right now, the situation is even harder for him in terms of getting another SL, its so tough today to make a fitting end like July did

When I read the article duality I often considered Bisu and Stork as twin and their success were complementary to each other so if Bisu is going to crash then I really guess that Stork's era is also pretty much over.
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 04 2009 07:19 GMT
#37
I thought Bisu considers Stork as his rival?
brood war for life, brood war forever
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 04 2009 16:37 GMT
#38
On December 04 2009 16:19 Crunchums wrote:
I thought Bisu considers Stork as his rival?

yeah, but stork is like a girl who got tits very late and only then 'rediscovered herself'.
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