Where are the female casters? - Page 32

On July 31 2013 23:27 Plansix wrote:
Arg why? This is why we can't have nice things! I thought we all agreed this needed to be shut down?

On July 31 2013 12:31 lichter wrote:

A summary of my post:
1. The term 'mongoloid' should not be used as an insult. It's not supposed to be an insult but has become a popular racist pejorative.

2. Use your words wisely because inadvertently opting to use racist insults makes you look bad, and your argument worse.

3. Insulting a reluctant woman and Seducing a receptive man are not equally "abuse".

Insults, no matter the time, the place, or the circumstances, are unnecessary.

On August 01 2013 00:14 Wertheron wrote:
Ok, just read the first and the last page.

End of the first: debate on chromosom.
End of the last: debate on mongoloid and racism.

Title of the topic: "Where are the female casters?"

What a cool and mature community we have.

On August 01 2013 00:14 Wertheron wrote:
Ok, just read the first and the last page.

End of the first: debate on chromosom.
End of the last: debate on mongoloid and racism.

Title of the topic: "Where are the female casters?"

What a cool and mature community we have.

On August 01 2013 00:11 shmget wrote:


1.1 Who made you the chief censor of the internet, and what can/should be used or not ?
1.2 Since when 'mongoloid' is a 'race' ? There is an ethic group called 'mogol', but clearly the common use of the adjective 'mogoloid' is not directed at them. now-a-day when someone use 'it is a terrific idea' it is not meant with the etymological meaning of terrific : 'that inspire terror'


It is ironic that you trhow away term like 'racist' carelessly in a sub-thread where you object to the abuse of the term 'abuse' (mind you you only object in half the cases.... only when it serve your argument)


point in case.



be that as it may, 'unnecessary' does not imply 'banned'... especially when the 'banning' seem to be very selective.
apparently the threshold for 'insult' is quite asymmetric.

On August 01 2013 00:11 shmget wrote:


1.1 Who made you the chief censor of the internet, and what can/should be used or not ?
1.2 Since when 'mongoloid' is a 'race' ? There is an ethic group called 'mogol', but clearly the common use of the adjective 'mogoloid' is not directed at them. now-a-day when someone use 'it is a terrific idea' it is not meant with the etymological meaning of terrific : 'that inspire terror'


It is ironic that you trhow away term like 'racist' carelessly in a sub-thread where you object to the abuse of the term 'abuse' (mind you you only object in half the cases.... only when it serve your argument)


point in case.



be that as it may, 'unnecessary' does not imply 'banned'... especially when the 'banning' seem to be very selective.
apparently the threshold for 'insult' is quite asymmetric.

On August 01 2013 00:30 Gr33n wrote:



this is actually really funny lol. i dont get into it with people who debate semantics of commonly used internet phrases

above the above poster. no one said any of that you are just taking my words and twisting them. i simply said there are women who want to be treated equally and then there are those who dont just like men.


my thoughts are actually all here https://www.evernote.com/shard/s204/sh/c4b02d85-f224-4a48-843e-0d6ad7ede5d3/b411ada928dd3cdc6d8dfdcb4f6dabb2

and the "perception of sexism" can be found here

http://www.notinthekitchenanymore.com/
http://fatuglyorslutty.com/category/jealous/


now can we get husky, destiny, sheth, desrow, idra, artosis, tasteless, moletrap, doa to post emails they got similar to this? i bet those guys had it way worse

just stop lol sexism it just doesnt exist here. video games are one of the few things on this planet that a women can equally play with men and somehow there is "sexism". bullshit find me proof

On August 01 2013 00:36 ComaDose wrote:

I may have missed something but are yous saying sexism in gaming doesn't exist and to find you proof...
then you linked examples of women being sexually assaulted in gaming?

On August 01 2013 00:40 Gr33n wrote:



a classic example of someone seeing what they want to see. im saying here are 2 women, can you ask husky to post his emails? i heard that people were threatening to rape destinys child? is that because they are sexist or because people on the internet just hate on ppl no matter what sex they are and say shit for shock value

oh and im 100 percent saying that women have no harder time playing video games then men. only the women who advertise they are women, say they are "a girl gamer" or say things like "im really good for a girl" or think that "girls need girl tournys" and such have any issue but the same shit happens to guys who do this too.

maximus black joined a pro team but hes not good at sc2, can you guess how much hate he got from the community? its the same exact hate katlyn is getting now. is it because shes a girl and hes a guy? no its because these people advertise themselves or put themselves in scenarios that demand levels of skill they dont have and people and specifically gamers resent that

On August 01 2013 00:43 Plansix wrote:
Don't argue with him, he is doing the classic "shift the burden of proof" argument that is so popular on the internet. He poses a wild theory that is only true on the broadest terms and then demands you prove him wrong. Then he can just dismiss your claims over and over while never having to make any real arguments himself. He can even post “evidence” that doesn’t even support his claim, because his argument is so broad and overreaching, it can’t really be argued against. He fully admits that women are treated poorly and judged due to their gender, but claims that isn’t a problem because other people are treated poorly for other reasons. How do you argue against that?

On August 01 2013 00:47 Gr33n wrote:



how is talking about maximus black or kayln broad in any way lol. im talking about super specific scenarios. the opposite is true where in fact YOU are not posting any specific evidence to prove YOUR point

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405217

go watch the vod about this very topic where destiny can be quoted saying "one person said they wanted to rape my child"

your telling me that some dudes said "tits or gtfo" and a girl went crying and shouting SEXISM SEXISM but destiny can get emails about rape fantasy over his child and thats "just the internet hating again" but has nothing to do with his gender?

btw am i being "too broad" or are these specific and cited examples working

On August 01 2013 00:43 Plansix wrote:
Don't argue with him, he is doing the classic "shift the burden of proof" argument that is so popular on the internet. He poses a wild theory that is only true on the broadest terms and then demands you prove him wrong. Then he can just dismiss your claims over and over while never having to make any real arguments himself. He can even post “evidence” that doesn’t even support his claim, because his argument is so broad and overreaching, it can’t really be argued against. He fully admits that women are treated poorly and judged due to their gender, but claims that isn’t a problem because other people are treated poorly for other reasons. How do you argue against that?

On August 01 2013 00:47 Gr33n wrote:



how is talking about maximus black or kayln broad in any way lol. im talking about super specific scenarios. the opposite is true where in fact YOU are not posting any specific evidence to prove YOUR point

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405217

go watch the vod about this very topic where destiny can be quoted saying "one person said they wanted to rape my child"

your telling me that some dudes said "tits or gtfo" and a girl went crying and shouting SEXISM SEXISM but destiny can get emails about rape fantasy over his child and thats "just the internet hating again" but has nothing to do with his gender?

btw am i being "too broad" or are these specific and cited examples working

On August 01 2013 00:48 ComaDose wrote:

thats not too broad its just wrong. obviously they didn't say they were going to rape desiny's child because of his gender
EDIT: are you saying that saying "tits or gtfo" isnt sexist?

On August 01 2013 00:49 Thieving Magpie wrote:


If you point out what he's doing wrong he'll stop posting such hilarious stuff, let him keep going. This is like that one guy who argued that women's rights was the reason the economy was bad in Poland. You can't get this kind of funny on TV.

On August 01 2013 00:53 Thieving Magpie wrote:


I think he's saying that "tits or gtfo" is equal to threatening someone with rape, but that both are okay.

On August 01 2013 00:52 Thieving Magpie wrote:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but people don't rape children because they have fathers. People do attack douche-bags by insulting, such as saying that they'll rape their children. How is that the same as girls getting attacked *because* they're girls?

On a second note, why can't both be wrong on their own merits?

Threatening rape is bad, objectively, and we should stop people from doing it.
Harassing women is bad, objectively, and we should stop people from doing it.

The fact that other people in the internet do it doesn't stop it from being bad, objectively.

On August 01 2013 00:47 Gr33n wrote:

in order for there to be sexism in gaming i believe that one gender must gain significant advantages by being male/female and that gender must also experience less obstacles put in his/her way on the way to playing said game. I dont see this anywhere in gaming. anywhere.... in.... gaming....