What mouse/pad does your favourite pro-gamer use? - Page 16
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Vigilant3
Ireland24 Posts
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landmarktiger
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
Dreamhack Summer 2011 From these two pictures, I am 99% sure that atn.Socke uses the Cherry G80 mechanical keyboard. The big space between the number keys and the F-keys as well as the plastic length from the F-keys upwards is very characteristic of the G80. However you cannot really know what type of switches is inside his keyboard. | ||
Auu
United States9 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:33 ryan1894 wrote: If you were truly an FPS hardcore gamer wouldn't you be worried about: 1) G9x's high LOD. What's wrong with a high level of detail? That's the whole point of buying a good mouse instead of a shitty low dpi mouse. You can always reduce the sensitivity with software. You cannot increase it with software without causing terrible aliasing. 2) G9x's non-centred sensor? Whether it's centered or not is relative to your hand and your joints, not relative to the shape of the mouse. And it only matters if you're twisting it instead of translating it. It causes no problem whatsoever. 3) G15 is an extremely bad keyboard. I had a G15v2, and even compared to this cheaper Sidewinder X6 that actually does have keyblocks - X6 has a proper volume knob, media keys that dont take 80g of force to depress and has much better key feel. I don't use keyboard volume knobs or media keys anyway. Those are bloatware. 4) 1000Hz vs 125Hz is not that much of a difference. Its 1ms (theoretically) to 8ms (theoretically) but you have to take into account Keyboard Lag (8ms) + CPU Lag (20ms) + GPU Time (15ms at 60FPS) + Frame Transmission (16.67ms) + Double Buffering Lag (14.67ms) + LCD Response Time (12ms). Relatively, 7ms difference on 1000Hz vs 125Hz is absolutely nothing, especially when 1000Hz increases CPU load unnecessarily.* 5ms ping vs. 40ms ping is extremely obvious in any FPS game. Keyboard interrupts are only generated when you actually press a key, so the CPU load problem is nonexistent. You're pulling numbers out of your ass and double-counting multiple categories. 5) I'm pretty sure RSI has nothing to do with High DPI/Sensitivity, in fact it would be more believable if Low Sensitivity DECREASED chance of RSI because with High DPI, less physical movement for more cursor movement, making even large differences in cursor movement be extremely small physical movements, making each movement extremely similar to each other. With low sensitivity, one uses the arm and shoulder to control aim, while also reducing the side effect of jittery hands, making each movement have a larger relative difference to each other, reducing the "repetitiveness" of each action, reducing RSI. The middle word of RSI is 'stress'. You're not stressing muscles or nerves by making tiny light movements. Almost no one gets RSI from mousing, anyway. It's almost always from the keyboard. I never made the claim that the mouse was relevant to RSI. 6) All PS/2 Keyboards are NKRO. Its not very hard to find a NKRO keyboard, and since I explained earlier that 1000Hz makes pretty much zero difference. False. A lot of PS/2 keyboards are not NKRO. NKRO requires changes to the internal wiring of the keyboard. Having a certain interface to the PC does not magically give it NKRO. 7) You probably played an FPS game that requires zero aiming skill to play. e.g. CoD6/5/4 or Battlefield 2/2142/BC2 All professional/good Quake, CS1.6 players use low sensitivity, because they are games where aim is rewarded heavily, and thus needed. CoD4 is just MP5 + left click = airstrike. I was a heavy FPS player before SC2 (CoD4/6, CS:S etc), but seriously, all FPS games require no skill apart from some old school FPS like Quake/CS1.6... I play CS and TF2. And "X game requires no skill" is always a shitty excuse from people who suck at it. | ||
Auu
United States9 Posts
On April 03 2011 11:19 Goodseed wrote: I've tried to download the setpoint for my g9x but it always say that its not connected. Every other mouse I had, deathadder and MX518 worked on their software. I use windows7 64bit and I tried pluggin the cord into different port for my g9x but it always say that it's not connected and I'm not able to customize anything =[ All software that comes with mice is useless at best. Don't install it. Software can't improve the accuracy of a mouse -- it can only fuck it up. | ||
cmh
United States88 Posts
MC was using his black qsenn dt-35 keyboard at dreamhack. I also saw him using this while I was at MLG Columbus and never seen him with a Topre Realforce keyboard. | ||
aussie_alexandre
Australia17 Posts
and he also use a mouse bungee | ||
MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
On June 21 2011 14:02 Auu wrote: What's wrong with a high level of detail? That's the whole point of buying a good mouse instead of a shitty low dpi mouse. You can always reduce the sensitivity with software. You cannot increase it with software without causing terrible aliasing. I believe he was referring to high lift-off distance... | ||
sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On June 21 2011 14:02 Auu wrote: What's wrong with a high level of detail? That's the whole point of buying a good mouse instead of a shitty low dpi mouse. You can always reduce the sensitivity with software. You cannot increase it with software without causing terrible aliasing. Whether it's centered or not is relative to your hand and your joints, not relative to the shape of the mouse. And it only matters if you're twisting it instead of translating it. It causes no problem whatsoever. I don't use keyboard volume knobs or media keys anyway. Those are bloatware. 5ms ping vs. 40ms ping is extremely obvious in any FPS game. Keyboard interrupts are only generated when you actually press a key, so the CPU load problem is nonexistent. You're pulling numbers out of your ass and double-counting multiple categories. The middle word of RSI is 'stress'. You're not stressing muscles or nerves by making tiny light movements. Almost no one gets RSI from mousing, anyway. It's almost always from the keyboard. I never made the claim that the mouse was relevant to RSI. I play CS and TF2. And "X game requires no skill" is always a shitty excuse from people who suck at it. Only for PS/2 keyboards. USB keyboards are polled. | ||
MontereyJack
Germany12 Posts
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LilBuck
United States1 Post
On June 06 2011 02:09 CampinSam wrote: He used to. I think he said Hwani (probably butchering that name) give the Mechanical keyboard to him, and he's been using it ever since. you can hear it on his stream. I could be wrong because it was a while ago, but I am fairly certain that he said during a GSL cast that he was using a Tesoro (some Korean brand, which is a rebranded xarmor I believe) which has MX Blue switches | ||
Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On June 27 2011 02:47 MontereyJack wrote: im watching homestory cup right now and im fairly certain huk has a razer abyssus looks like an abyssus or a salmosa | ||
MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
You can see a bit of the backlight behind the mouse. The salmosa doesn't have any lighting whatsoever so it's the abyssus | ||
ryan1894
Australia264 Posts
On June 21 2011 14:02 Auu wrote: What's wrong with a high level of detail? That's the whole point of buying a good mouse instead of a shitty low dpi mouse. You can always reduce the sensitivity with software. You cannot increase it with software without causing terrible aliasing. Whether it's centered or not is relative to your hand and your joints, not relative to the shape of the mouse. And it only matters if you're twisting it instead of translating it. It causes no problem whatsoever. I don't use keyboard volume knobs or media keys anyway. Those are bloatware. 5ms ping vs. 40ms ping is extremely obvious in any FPS game. Keyboard interrupts are only generated when you actually press a key, so the CPU load problem is nonexistent. You're pulling numbers out of your ass and double-counting multiple categories. The middle word of RSI is 'stress'. You're not stressing muscles or nerves by making tiny light movements. Almost no one gets RSI from mousing, anyway. It's almost always from the keyboard. I never made the claim that the mouse was relevant to RSI. I play CS and TF2. And "X game requires no skill" is always a shitty excuse from people who suck at it. 1) LOD = Lift off distance. I'm guessing you just googled "LOD" 2) I fingertip grip my mouse, like many RTS players. A centred sensor is very important. My G9x's sensor is ridiculously offset to the left 3) I recently got a Filco Majestouch Ninja Tenkeyless with MX Browns. Awesome 4) I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to react to something under 35ms. Also only PS/2 keyboards send hardware interrupts. Most USB keyboards are polled at 125Hz. Also the difference between 1000Hz and 125Hz is not 5ms vs 40ms. It is 1ms vs 8ms. You'd be lying if you said you could notice a 7ms difference without equipment. 5) Most people tense up their wrist/fingers when performing ridiculously small movements. When using large swiping movements, you use the muscles of your army and shoulder, compared to the wrist and fingers. Does RSI exist in the upper arm and shoulder? 6) USB limits it to 6 keys + 2 modifiers. I'm pretty sure MOST popular keyboards that use PS/2 interface are better than that. 7) I'm sure SC/SC2 takes much more speed than FPS ever will. I've played a multitude of games before SC2, and I can tell you that SC2 is the most mechanically challenging of them all. No I didn't play Brood War. | ||
Zethiel
Bolivia39 Posts
I chatted with Haypro while HuK was streaming, he was kind enouth to let me know that HuK, Ret, Nazgul and himself were trying and using the Abyssuss, but didnt mention anything about Jinro. Also he let me know his personal dpi configuration which was important to me at that time | ||
Repairabear
United Kingdom7 Posts
He uses the Ttesports azurues and the meka g1 keyboard HOPE THIS HELPS | ||
Bourne
United Kingdom152 Posts
Mouse – Logitech G9 Keyboard – Das Keyboard Ultimate Not sure about mouse mat but i didnt think he has been mentioned so far. | ||
SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
On July 02 2011 23:56 SkimGuy wrote: Does anyone know what Jaedong uses? Logitech Mini Optical (400 dpi), Qsenn DT35 and standard KeSPA mousepad iirc. | ||
sad312
Canada56 Posts
This is all found on the amazon site and theres a review by kawaiirice. http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Mechanical-Professional-Keyboard-KB-MEG005US/dp/B004HPTHE4/ref=cm_cr-mr-title | ||
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