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On June 06 2011 14:16 EchoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 14:01 0neder wrote:MMA wrote: The reason Koreans did better than foreigners is because they work harder, doing what they love with professionalism, putting in long hours with perserverence and passion.
Great quote MMA, and so true. Hoping more foreigners will adopt this trait. Yeah, I made this exact point last night and got flamed up and down by people telling me to get a real job/life. In fact, I sacrificed and put in long hours to get into my dream profession and have a family I'm supporting in an expensive area to live.
I just want foreigners to be honest. To all foreigners who just want this to be a fun hobby, I say declare it right now. Just say well I have talent but I'm just having fun with this, don't really care how well I do. Like Steve jobs with the first apple TV, at least people won't be let down when your lack of ambition is discovered at tourneys.
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On June 06 2011 14:35 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 14:16 EchoZ wrote:On June 06 2011 14:01 0neder wrote:MMA wrote: The reason Koreans did better than foreigners is because they work harder, doing what they love with professionalism, putting in long hours with perserverence and passion.
Great quote MMA, and so true. Hoping more foreigners will adopt this trait. Yeah, I made this exact point last night and got flamed up and down by people telling me to get a real job/life. In fact, I sacrificed and put in long hours to get into my dream profession and have a family I'm supporting in an expensive area to live. I just want foreigners to be honest. To all foreigners who just want this to be a fun hobby, I say declare it right now. Just say well I have talent but I'm just having fun with this, don't really care how well I do. Like Steve jobs with the first apple TV, at least people won't be let down when your lack of ambition is discovered at tourneys.
Easier said than done. A lot of us would love to spend 10+ hours a day on this game. Fact is, real life gets in the way. Sure, if I could make a living on gaming I'd do it, but unfortunately it doesn't really pay in NA (unless your name is Idra or... oh wait, that's probably it). Having school/full time job/whatever is pretty damn important.
In Korea, if you're damn good, practice 12 hours a day and you'll make progress, get picked up by a team... sure, might not be the most comfortable lifestyle, but it's something. In NA, how are you supposed to make any money?
Note: I'm only a Masters player, so obviously not in a position to become a pro-gamer anytime soon :p
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Would be pretty sad if MMA couldn't go to the next MLG =/ GOM might sponsor 4 other Koreans to go, and leave MMA to fund the trip himself, which he might not be able to do. Be interesting to see how that pans out.
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Great Work. Seems like a really nice guy :D
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TL: Did you expect the foreign fans to be so passionate? How does it compare to your experience in GSL and Korea? MMA: It's my first time in the USA, and the crowds, passion, cheers were reminiscent of the 2002 World Cup in Korea. It was so great, and it would be awesome if GSL could be as popular. Wow, I was quite surprised at this part!
Also, it was quite hilarious when the translator started speaking to MMA in english. I feel like I would have done that 4 or 5 times if I had translated as much as he did that weekend.
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Isn't the deal that the top 4 Koreans according to GSL points get to go to MLG (with the exception of this first one)? If so then MMA won't/shouldn't get a GSL spot to MLG. But it seems that it would be pretty easy for Slayers to get a sponsor for it. Anyway thanks so much for the interview!
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On June 06 2011 14:43 Tachion wrote: Would be pretty sad if MMA couldn't go to the next MLG =/ GOM might sponsor 4 other Koreans to go, and leave MMA to fund the trip himself, which he might not be able to do. Be interesting to see how that pans out.
Yeah, that would be sad. I don't know how well SlayerS is funded for international travel, I can't think of any members that have attended international events that weren't invite/paid for
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On June 06 2011 11:22 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 11:20 Tarot wrote: Great interview.
Glad to see MMA recognizing the potential in Thorzain. He sure held his own against a 2 time GSL champion. I really hope Thorzain heads to GSL. I'm normally very skeptical about people who claim x or y foreign player is on par with top Koreans simply because they might win one series or be dominant in the foreign scene, but Thorzain I think is unquestionably a contender.
Exactly. Most pros will not be able to compete in Korea, but if it's Thorzain or Naniwa (just naming the ones who went to MLG), I am sure they can do it.
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On June 06 2011 14:56 Nontrivial wrote: Isn't the deal that the top 4 Koreans according to GSL points get to go to MLG (with the exception of this first one)? If so then MMA won't/shouldn't get a GSL spot to MLG. But it seems that it would be pretty easy for Slayers to get a sponsor for it. Anyway thanks so much for the interview! I don't believe it's based upon GSL rank or points in any way. I think it's just people who have a following and who are able/willing to go.
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Please put a spoiler alert on this post, and change the name to "Interview with the winner of MLG". Because it's quite telling who won based on the headline.
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On June 06 2011 14:41 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 14:35 0neder wrote:On June 06 2011 14:16 EchoZ wrote:On June 06 2011 14:01 0neder wrote:MMA wrote: The reason Koreans did better than foreigners is because they work harder, doing what they love with professionalism, putting in long hours with perserverence and passion.
Great quote MMA, and so true. Hoping more foreigners will adopt this trait. Yeah, I made this exact point last night and got flamed up and down by people telling me to get a real job/life. In fact, I sacrificed and put in long hours to get into my dream profession and have a family I'm supporting in an expensive area to live. I just want foreigners to be honest. To all foreigners who just want this to be a fun hobby, I say declare it right now. Just say well I have talent but I'm just having fun with this, don't really care how well I do. Like Steve jobs with the first apple TV, at least people won't be let down when your lack of ambition is discovered at tourneys. Easier said than done. A lot of us would love to spend 10+ hours a day on this game. Fact is, real life gets in the way. Sure, if I could make a living on gaming I'd do it, but unfortunately it doesn't really pay in NA (unless your name is Idra or... oh wait, that's probably it). Having school/full time job/whatever is pretty damn important. In Korea, if you're damn good, practice 12 hours a day and you'll make progress, get picked up by a team... sure, might not be the most comfortable lifestyle, but it's something. In NA, how are you supposed to make any money? Note: I'm only a Masters player, so obviously not in a position to become a pro-gamer anytime soon :p
Actually, there are plenty of 'full-time' pro-gamers in the western world, just that they don't practice as much. Some either spend their time coaching/casting/being on random talk shows, or they just don't have the same dedication. It is not true though, that the players can't afford to live off the game either via team salary/sponsorship or coaching/streaming.
From TLO and Morrow's interviews at this event, they even said that the swedish house isn't going as well as hoped and they are going to make it a little more strict/korean when they go back. It would be nice if other players adopt this attitude.
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Great player and interview. Very humble guy, I too hope sc2 will take off in Korea.
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I think the reason MMA says players know about TL is because he lives with Cella, MLG does raise interesting questions about thorzain. The impression of him from the TSL was that he studies his opponent and prepares insanely well for matches. In MLG he wasn't able to do that but still made it quite far. Are we overestimating or underestimating his ability to prepare for an opponent.
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Thorzain should hit up GSL!
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Congrats to MMA! Combining excellent multitasking and micro against Zerg to control the map.
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Congrats to MMA, indeed! Wow, I surely enjoyed his never-ending intense play, and I loved the moment when the crowd began to cheer saying "MMA! MMA! MMA! MMA!" and MMA lost his words for a while.
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On June 06 2011 11:38 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 11:36 ronpaul012 wrote: "It was so great, and it would be awesome if GSL could be as popular"
woah, am I reading this correctly? Did he just admit that foreign fans are more into it as korean fans? Or what was he saying if that wasn't it. Yes, and you have to admit it's true. Look at the turnout and energy of MLG versus GSL. Well usually the GSL finals have more viewers but the fans arent as energetic, im kind of surprised he said that as GSL gets soooo many online viewers in korea and elsewhere (hundreds of thousands) nothing can really compare to that in the west yet, but this MLG seemed like a huge success and they will only build on it from here :D best MLG yet , best foreigner event yet? :D i think so
Honestly though sundance said there were about 1000 fans watching at the venue, GSL finals usually have around 2-3000 ( i think the last venue held 3000 and it was mostly full) but the fans and MLG were so energetic it probably seemed like far more then it was.
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On June 06 2011 15:10 Steamboatlol wrote: I think the reason MMA says players know about TL is because he lives with Cella, MLG does raise interesting questions about thorzain. The impression of him from the TSL was that he studies his opponent and prepares insanely well for matches. In MLG he wasn't able to do that but still made it quite far. Are we overestimating or underestimating his ability to prepare for an opponent. Well mc defenetly got his revenge in 2 different series but thorzain can defenetly put up a fight with some of the best, i dont know if he would get very deep in the GSL his first few tries but he defenetly has the ability to win games and possibly make it to code s.
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so since the top 3 are koreans, who will be seeded to GSL? MMA is codeA will he play in code S now? and who are the 2 others players to be seeded? idra and nani? do they wanna come?
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Totally agree about thorzain. He just completely outclassed select and idra- that is not an easy task. And he is the type of player who seems to thrive in the GSL type tourney format where you can prepare for a specific match. He has such an awesome temperment and attitude- he has become my favourite player. I wish to see more of him.
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