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On May 31 2011 09:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
@Amber[Light]
Do you have an ability that can help town?
@Chaos13
There's no reason to kill off Amber[Light] right now. If he's useless town, shooting or lynching is a waste. If he's scum, then he's already made himself a public figure, and also, is incapable of any misdirection. A simple role or alignment check on him will resolve problems.
*lies down*
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@redFF
Okay I think I've been all posts through several times so please forgive me if I am wrong ... But when exactly did you vote for Amber[LighT]? I thought your role allowed you to PM people AFTER you had voted for them but it appears that you two are talking right now without you voting for him. And again, this thread is already quite big and I might have missed your vote inthere somewhere, please forgive me if that is the case.
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Dear Lord, what is this madness?
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On May 31 2011 09:39 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 Cthsazsa wrote:
So are you suggesting we should lynch him? As of right now I think that's a horrible idea. For all we know he could have some sort of badass power that makes up for having to speak dog. I'm saying we should definitely consider it. A potential badass power is a huge 'what if'. And Jackal, they could both claim the roles they were actually given, so if no counterclaims come up, that doesn't mean they're town.
I'm well aware of that. I have already stated that I will be taking all role claims with a giant grain of salt. It is also rare for 2 scum to so directly connect to each other. I'm more concerned with your apparent willingness to lynch Amber simply because he speaks dog. I like dogs. 
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On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp?
Who is this Vamp person and why is everybody voting for him?
On-topic, I think that we should wait a day or two before lynching our communal pet. He most likely has a night ability, so we might as well keep him around.
We shouldn't be discussing just me and tnkted. There are other players too!
Cthsazsa, what do you think of the current situation, apart from RedFF & amber?
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On May 31 2011 09:45 prplhz wrote:
@redFF
Okay I think I've been all posts through several times so please forgive me if I am wrong ... But when exactly did you vote for Amber[LighT]? I thought your role allowed you to PM people AFTER you had voted for them but it appears that you two are talking right now without you voting for him. And again, this thread is already quite big and I might have missed your vote inthere somewhere, please forgive me if that is the case.
Voting thread
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@chaos13:
If you mention Amber without asking him a question, I will make it my job to get you lynched.
right now we have 3 votes on Varp, and only Palmar has given a real reason for voting for him. what does everyone else think of Varp?
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ugh this thread moves wayyyy too fast for a day 1 thread.
on the forum i host, our longest game was 30 pages (with ~30 players) for like a 7 day game and even then i was telling everyone they should be less spammy faggots and post more content.
sooooooo many posts in this thread so far are just people parroting what other people say. can you stop posting if your post is going to contain 3 lines or less? it just makes it too easy for someone else to come in 3 pages later (when your post has already been forgotten) and say the exact same thing, like "EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP MAKING LISTS HERP" which makes it look like they're contributing
like aren't most of you vets? isn't this common knowledge already?
^also i know i look like a hypocrite by just parroting to stop parroting. herp.
anyways this got touched on a few pages ago but i want to re-emphasize it because it rang some serious alarm bells for me
On May 31 2011 04:00 redFF wrote:
role received. I will find the scum by any means possible!
On May 31 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:
I don't actually see a point in the game where my role can be useful...
On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna claim.
I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day.
I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation.
I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest.
My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage.
On May 31 2011 08:45 redFF wrote:
I figured out a way i could be useful chaos btw.
^that last one to me, might as well read
On May 31 2011 08:45 redFF wrote:
DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL
how would anyone NOT see that as useful initially? some serious WIFOM going on IMO. or maybe a scum slip.
anyways, yes i did ignore a lot of his posts, which were pro-town, like this one:
On May 31 2011 05:51 redFF wrote:
Yes we don't claim who chose roles for who because then mafia would kill the people who chose their roles and claim whatever they wanted!
but with someone mentioning that maybe amber was faking (a definite possibility), redFF could be jumping on that and making up a fake role that can communicate with his mafia bro. and of course publicly, he's saying that amber can't communicate with him to throw off the scent (pardon the pun  )
those are my thoughts!
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On May 31 2011 09:48 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? Who is this Vamp person and why is everybody voting for him? On-topic, I think that we should wait a day or two before lynching our communal pet. He most likely has a night ability, so we might as well keep him around. We shouldn't be discussing just me and tnkted. There are other players too! Cthsazsa, what do you think of the current situation, apart from RedFF & amber?
Congrats on spelling my name right ;D
+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp?
Although that post is sort of related to Amber, I thought this was kind of weird. If he suspects Varp and tnkted I understand why he would want us all to pay closer attention to them. But he wants us to completely drop talk on all other players and focus solely on them two. Maybe he's trying to turn you two into scapegoats? I don't know, it's all WIFOM.
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On May 31 2011 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Mig bro, Varp backed off the plan man, gotta cut a bro a slack.
Hey Palmar remember this post? What made you change your mind about "cutting slack"?
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On May 31 2011 09:59 deskscaress wrote:
ugh this thread moves wayyyy too fast for a day 1 thread.
on the forum i host, our longest game was 30 pages (with ~30 players) for like a 7 day game and even then i was telling everyone they should be less spammy faggots and post more content.
sooooooo many posts in this thread so far are just people parroting what other people say. can you stop posting if your post is going to contain 3 lines or less? it just makes it too easy for someone else to come in 3 pages later (when your post has already been forgotten) and say the exact same thing, like "EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP MAKING LISTS HERP" which makes it look like they're contributing
Most of my posts are always 3 lines or less. Get over yourself.
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On May 31 2011 09:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
@chaos13:
If you mention Amber without asking him a question, I will make it my job to get you lynched.
right now we have 3 votes on Varp, and only Palmar has given a real reason for voting for him. what does everyone else think of Varp?
I find it odd how your so readily eager to lynch someone because they aren't giving their full concentration on the two people you listed.
As far as my thoughts on Varp, I haven't read anything that sticks out or appears scummy. Then again I had to skim through the last 12 pages to catch up.
I'm going to reread them tonight when I have more time.
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ugh.. im cursed with being thoughtless early game but i have to say Amber has a funny role (if its real) Im better off reading posts from this point on cause ill get a better feel of the time, situation and the game overall..
oh and, Hi i am Kenpachi.
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Alright Desk
I'm pretty sure if I was fake claiming a role the person who gave me my real role would be attacking me pretty hard and nobody seems to fit that bill quite yet.
Also
On May 31 2011 04:00 redFF wrote:
role received. I will find the scum by any means possible!
On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote:
I'm an interrogator
Pretty bad but still :D
Yeah i understand i spammed a lot at the beginning I've tried and will continue to try and cut down on my one line/crap posts.
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kitaman27
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On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp?
meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own.
On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created.
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On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created.
I find this point worth repeating and bolding for emphasis. Anyone who appears to be pushing someone very hard or without sufficient reason at this point should be watched very carefully. Mafia know the exact roles of at least 10 players (I don't know the exact count, but I assume it's at least 5mafia plus the 5 they created), while everyone else only knows their own and the one they created. This is a HUGE advantage that we should try and counter by taking peoples official suspicions VERY seriously.
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On May 31 2011 10:13 redFF wrote:Alright Desk I'm pretty sure if I was fake claiming a role the person who gave me my real role would be attacking me pretty hard and nobody seems to fit that bill quite yet. Also Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 04:00 redFF wrote:
role received. I will find the scum by any means possible! Pretty bad but still :D Yeah i understand i spammed a lot at the beginning I've tried and will continue to try and cut down on my one line/crap posts.
regarding the first half of this - how would they? deconduo has made it quite clear that we are not to discuss who got picked to give who their role. in fact, today is your BEST shot at getting away with a fake claim IMO.
On May 31 2011 10:10 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:59 deskscaress wrote:
ugh this thread moves wayyyy too fast for a day 1 thread.
on the forum i host, our longest game was 30 pages (with ~30 players) for like a 7 day game and even then i was telling everyone they should be less spammy faggots and post more content.
sooooooo many posts in this thread so far are just people parroting what other people say. can you stop posting if your post is going to contain 3 lines or less? it just makes it too easy for someone else to come in 3 pages later (when your post has already been forgotten) and say the exact same thing, like "EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP MAKING LISTS HERP" which makes it look like they're contributing Most of my posts are always 3 lines or less. Get over yourself.
more spam, more dilution of the thread, less chances to catch slips. i point this out, you quote it and spam some more. even if you aren't mafia (and i don't see this as a scum slip by any means), it's anti-town to spam for spamming's sake. so, why are you doing it, just to spite a new player?
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A couple of requests/suggestions:
Firstly, can people also please vote in the main thread in addition to the PTP voting thread? If everyone does this, it allows the town to track the bandwagon and lurking voters and can call out people on obviously scummy vote switches.
Secondly, regardless of the alignment of Palmar, I would recommend people avoid 'bro-fisting' (or whatever) him. If he is town, I think between Node, GM, and tnkted; he should have enough options to use his powers wisely. If he is scum, I don't think we should provide him with additional potential kill targets (with a suicide bomb/admiral akbar type ability).
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On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created.
That's actually decent point, and they know exactly who has what. Hmmm this game will probably require a massclaim at some point, just because of that. 33 people in this set-up is about 6-7 mafia? means they know over 1/3 of the roles. Perhaps there are less and more 3rd party roles, so it would even out the information.
Though mafia should be a bit short-handed, because I was prone to make a more town-oriented role, rather then a mafia one, since you are more likely to be town. Alright so that should even out, and methinks there will be alot of KP stuff floating around.
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On May 31 2011 10:31 deskscaress wrote:
more spam, more dilution of the thread, less chances to catch slips. i point this out, you quote it and spam some more. even if you aren't mafia (and i don't see this as a scum slip by any means), it's anti-town to spam for spamming's sake. so, why are you doing it, just to spite a new player?
It's not spam. I don't know you from Adam. Yet you want to dictate how I post. It's information for you to put to use. Many of those in here are aware of how I post. And now you are.
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