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Well, I gotta go sleep. So I hope this lynch will be a successful one.
##Unvote ##Vote Enervate
Seeing Sirael is not really going to be voted and Enervate is also in my list, I'll move my vote there to make sure at least this vote will pass. This one better be mafia or we're in serious trouble. But we should have much more info after this.
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On April 28 2011 06:24 Enervate wrote: And to clarify, I no longer think Rising_Phoenix is mafia. I've reread all of his posts, and I think he was just trying to find out who was mafia. I made a lot of bad judgements earlier because I didn't really know how this game worked.
I am still suspicious about vyro, but not sure. 50/50 if I had to put a number on it. Sirael is another suspect but after reading some of his earlier posts, he doesn't sound like a mafia member, if that makes any sense.
I already said why I don't think Fez is mafia, maybe he's just so smart he decided to unvote me for some reason though. I'm not sure about aScLe either. Some of his posts gave me a mafia feeling. I'd say out of vyro and aScLe, one of them is mafia and one isn't.
So my suspects are 1) Phelix, 2) aScLe/vyro, 3)sirael
After reading your posts specifically. Enervate, you point fingers at Mafia without support of evidence at first. Then you start withdrawing your accusations. For you its no anaylsis, and its just what your words say. So many people give you these "Mafia feelings". Your posts are transparent, you give me Mafia feelings.
##Vote Enervate
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Sirael hasn't shown up yet. I had a post early to point this out and try and pressure vote him to post but I forgot to post it(saw artosis was streaming and was like wtf awesome!) =/
Seems pointless to vote for him at this point, wouldnt make a difference and wouldnt convince him to post.
Gonna vote Enervate, I tried to give him a bit of leeway but he seems to be sprialing out of control. Flip flopping all over the place trying to find a way out. Seems a bit too put on. ##Vote Enervate FoS on Sirael since he spent the entire day without making a post
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Night 2
The confusion had reached critical mass. It didn't matter if those mafia scum kept hitting people, as long as they kept us killing each other. It was disheartening when Enervate was killed, but I had a feeling it wasn't the end of the world.
The more of us die, the closer we get to hitting the criminals that plague us. The fog enveloping this town grows thicker by the day. We need a success.
Enervate the Townie has been lynched.
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Bye guys. My fault, I played bad. I'm just a newb! Hope you guys don't hate me outside of this thread! Say hi if you see me in another thread!
GL town.
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Fuck..
2 mislynches already. Sighh.
And don't quit mafia enervate! Come back whenever you have time
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Alright. Enervate was a townie. I'll look more into this later today. I have some suspicions and I'll try to post them before the end of night. In any case, 4th townie will die today, that leaves us with 7 ppl out of which 3 are mafia, so 4/3. Town can still win if it makes 3 good lynches in next 3 days, however with this activity of people it can be hardly done.
And I am getting the feeling that mafia is more active than we think.
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On April 28 2011 14:32 Enervate wrote: Bye guys. My fault, I played bad. I'm just a newb! Hope you guys don't hate me outside of this thread! Say hi if you see me in another thread!
GL town. No worries mate, it is a kinda difficult game >_< Sorry for the mislynch. And I am pretty sure there is no hate for you
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On April 28 2011 14:32 Enervate wrote: Bye guys. My fault, I played bad. I'm just a newb! Hope you guys don't hate me outside of this thread! Say hi if you see me in another thread!
GL town.
No hate at all man! Just keep playing, you should be fine. Though it doesn't make it any easier for the Town =/ .
So Medic play this night is gonna be key. A loss tonight would be awful.
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so when does night 2 end? preferably in AEST cos im terrible in converting time zones
I might be posting a pretty indepth scum read maybe 5- 10 mins before it ends just so it wont affect the mafia's choice on who to kill (ala jaminz style)
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Uggh realized that i will have to post this halfway through my exam tommorow for it to be 10 mins before nighttime finishes so....
Ok to start a few things off i would like to "explain our situation" we are in right now so we have including tonight a total 4 townies going to be killed off, which leaves us with 5 townies and 3 mafia in the lynch, so assuming that we misslynch tommorow again then we will be down to 4 against 3 and by night will be 3 against 3 which means practically the mafia will have the majority on who to lynch ie. game over so say we lynch a mafia member tommorow we will be 4 townies against 2 mafia by the next day and if say we mislynch will have 2 against 2 by the next day basically tl;dr we have 1 last chance to get this right and pretty much need to know not just who one of the mafia members are but at least 2 by i think night 4
To start off lets look at the people who had the deciding votes on both hardcorey's and enervates lynch
Hardcorey: conversion, sirael, enervate, freestalker, fezthecaliph Enervate: Fez,Freestalker,vyro, rising, conversion, ascle
Everything below this points are mainly under the assumption that vyro is a mafia
It all started with this post
On April 26 2011 16:33 vyro wrote:
again, the active players seem most pro-town to me, which would leave the 3 mafia among the 5 less active (phelix, fez, sirael, enervate, ascle) which is less likely statistically, which leads me to believe at least one of them is not actually a townie. but at the same time, i'm afraid to lose any of them (the actives) because a loss of their analysis is a major loss to this relatively inactive game.
look at the list of people he thinks is mafia. now look at the list of people that lynched hardcorey and subtract vyro's list of people we get *drumroll*
+ Show Spoiler +FREESTALKER AND CONVERSION
if you look at the list of people who lynched enervate again we have those two people showing up.
And with that concludes my introduction and reasoning on how i started looking into this.
The following attempts to link the connections between vyro, freestalker and conversion
If we look at the opinions that vyro has on freestalker and conversion
On April 28 2011 05:52 vyro wrote:
freestalker: curious what would've happened had enervate not accused him and jaminz so early on. one of the first to make a summary post, mainly drawing attention to inactives and enervate. points out that it's doubtful all 3 mafia are lurkers, which i agree with. had some filler posts in between, but they were generally clarifying. in a lengthy post replying to jaminz, he responds reasonably and states he's not afraid to speak up because he has nothing to hide. wish he would format his posts more neatly though, replying within the quote you're replying to is messy. suspicious of sirael, enervate, and me
strong townie vibe
conversion: don't like his logic on investigating an inactive. if cop checks an active, his proposed scenarios are all the same. why not check an active who you could count on to discuss and participate. one of the first hugely substantive posts, much props there. his analysis of most in that post is to analyze and be more active. lots of scum reads, but still identifies probable townies. the paranoia seems town-ish. mildly defends enervate in favor of a lynch on hardcorey, but defends himself reasonably. hardcorey was just so absent :\ suspects sirael, enervate and me. same accusations as free. troublesome? but also stems from basic logic, so i'm on the side that they're both pro-town. if they were both scum, well we're pretty screwed. what's with all the itouch business anyway? i really don't care if you're on your itouch or not, just saying
reads as town
as you may see here his posts have far from bad things to say about the two individual and initially tries to mask his allegiance to conversion by critizing and disagreeing with his logic but then ends up with nothing bad to say about them
and finnally we have this
On April 26 2011 07:45 vyro wrote:
since we are discussing who we should protect, i'd like to see conversion or freestalker protected. will those protected by the doctor know that they're protected by the doctor even if not targeted by mafia?
@freestalker - how do i know he's joking? i assume he's joking with the :p face
coincidence? i think not!
And now we have out looks on freestalker to start of we look at the reasoning behind his vote on enervate
On April 28 2011 07:21 freestalker wrote: Well, I gotta go sleep. So I hope this lynch will be a successful one.
##Unvote ##Vote Enervate
Seeing Sirael is not really going to be voted and Enervate is also in my list, I'll move my vote there to make sure at least this vote will pass. This one better be mafia or we're in serious trouble. But we should have much more info after this.
Basically bandwagonning with no real opinion on why he chose enervate to be lynched. Again look at his other suspicions... no conversion
I have to say in both freestalkers and conversions post, they are both critical towards vyro, however this looks to me as a tatic to conceal their relationship. Its is noted however that they are never overly or ever overextends their accusations on vyro and tries to accuse him enough to not get him lynched. Need evidence for this? Well has vyro been lynched?
And last of all we have Conversion
On April 27 2011 12:44 Conversion wrote:
FoS on Enervate and Sirael right now. Enervate for his rather poor, scummy defense and Sirael for hardcore lurking.
well enervate is dead and sirael is incidentally NOT freestalker or vyro, jsut going to leave this here
You may all think and say im looking far too deep into this stuff but
On April 28 2011 06:17 Conversion wrote: This is why I said check an inactive. Also, the iTouch thing is in case someone like free asks me to do analysis. I'm taking time out of my personal life to go to a library to make longer posts and analysis to benefit town. It's just to clarify that I can't make long posts/analysis etc. Don't read too much into it. so why out of the 9 to 10 people we have you say free?
I could have more to say like the voting trends of each suspect and even just simple scum reads but i just realized that i have a fuck load of exams coming up (tommorow) and my internet is capped for me to individually find every post that they say. (maybe someone else can do this)
Also can someone post that picture of that black guy with the "you just activated my trap card" cos i literally can't load or even upload an image and i say it would be quite fitting cos you mafia's just activated my trap card.
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You know what, I give up.
I kinda expected someone to come after me and conversion, and I myself have a bug in my head saying 'be objective about conversion', and we are probably going to lose this, so I wanted to call for a lynch of conversion for the next day just for the lulz. Coz I did trust him, even if with a bit of paranoia, but I still have this in mind that he'd be able to fool around with the rest of people, mainly if his 'friends' are active.
Anyway. I am probably going to die tonight, so it doesn't matter.
So here are my few cents I've been thinking about and that might potentially be interesting.
I found it very interesting that conversion spoke about enervate and sirael, now while I agreed both are very suspicious (or at least from the way of posting.. anyone heard of sirael recently?) but also he ignores the fact that phelix hasn't posted anything beneficial in a while. So hasn't vyro.
Now it is very hard to do any kind of organization in this mess, since still vyro, sirael, phelix don't write anything at all, conversion is on his itouch (I was warned somewhere about people that are active in the beginning and then become 'busy' later). If the whole mafia is active we can go to hell because that'd mean all those inactive people are townies and we'll never find that out.
If Conversion is mafia, I'll probably die tonight, because they just won't target him while he might be the second potential target (according to posting activity). If I don't die, then of course some people might be suspicious I am mafia (but of course so could be conversion, right?).
And ascle, the 'townie' vibe of me and conversion is in place, because most of other people just didn't speak as much and as openly, so you can't really compare with anyone else who has the 'stronger' vibe.
But whatever, as I said, I give up. gg
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Yes I'm on my iTouch, but I'm still making substantial posts regularly throughout the game.
But this inactivity is really pissing me off.. I thought we'd have people to, you know, try and actually play and improve. Looks like this would have been the ideal situation.
And Sirael didn't even vote(?) Fuck. At 4:3, every vote counts. How are we going to ensure a mafia vote if people just sheep and someone doesn't even vote?
GG town, I'm done making useless analysis posts. I'm just going to vote on gut feeling starting day 3.
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I didn't vote because I didn't even have time to read the thread in the last two days. And I don't post when I only glanced through the thread. Thought the game would start one week earlier where I would have had more than enough free time...
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Day 3
There was a whisper around town that someone else had been killed. He was found buried in the forest. Vyro had been torn limb from limb, as though pulled apart by horses. Spelled in his blood on the ground were the words There Is No Hope. If there was any. I was starting to lose it.
Vyro the townie is dead. Sirael the Medic has disappeared from town (modkill)
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1. pHelix Equilibria 2. Rising_Phoenix 3. HardCorey 4. FezTheCaliph 5. Sirael 6. Freestalker 7. Enervate 8. Conversion 9. Jaminz 10. vyro 11. aScle
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Day 1 HardCorey lynched
Night 1 jaminz shot
Day 2 Enervate Lynched
Night 2 Sirael modkilled, Vyro shot.
Total casualties: 5
6 people remain, 3 are mafia.
Looks like GG town. =/
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wow... there are 3 mafia remaining and only 3 townies... phelix,rising,fez, free, conversion,ascle
so i actually can;t think of a way to win this without a medic unless the mafia members decide to kill one of their own.
##vote Conversion he FoSed both Sirael and enervate who are townies, best bet i have
well townies we might as well all vote for the same person if you want a chance to win or the mafia will just all vote for one person and we lose.
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Mafia Wins
Mafia team: Conversion Rising_Phoenix FezTheCaliph
Flawless Victory
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