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On April 04 2011 10:10 Kar98 wrote: How so? He had finished his spire and drops, the only anti air MVP had were a couple of marines and those BCs attacking the expo could easily be NPed
Mind you:
MVP had many thousand minerals and gas in bank., 20 rax(can build a lot marines every 25 seconds, as you know), 10+ orbital and PFs, more mining bases, larger army, BCs.
While dimaga had a few hundred minerals and gas in bank, fewer bases, a new base just got denied by marauder drop.
Do you know how biased you are?
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Even Dimaga admitted in his interview that that game probably should have been given to MVP.
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now look at when try in the real tournament t.t
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Great writeup (as always here on tl it seems). Thanks as usual, really enjoyed it.
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One of my favorite tournaments so far in SC2! thanks for the coverage, divinek!
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On April 04 2011 10:10 Kar98 wrote: How so? He had finished his spire and drops, the only anti air MVP had were a couple of marines and those BCs attacking the expo could easily be NPed
The spire wasn't quite done yet IIRC. Not sure if the infestors had any energy and I thought MVP still had more tanks out by his PFs. I'd say it was definitely a regame situation, but it was more like 70-75% won by MVP than 50/50.
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Everyone should know by now that team matches meant nothing. They were only showmatches. When real tournament started only Dimaga actually managed to achieve something worth to mention.
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koreans are still ahead, just not as much as they were in BW
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Wonderful article. I think this is definitely correct in most regards. However, the quality-to-quantity ratio of high caliber players clearly still resides in Korea imo.
Look what Boxer did with some already talented Korean sc2 potential and some hard work. If the foreigners wish to compete and stay (imo catch up)on the same level as the Korean scene, pro gaming will have to become a job in the west. That can happen if sponsorships from the growth of e-sports here continues, but serious communities will have to really consider new talent as players show themselves.
Gaming "clans" or "teams" will really have to work to be a constructive group of talent, rather than simply a banner for people to cheer for and a logo for advertisers to flaunt their wares.
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Watched some of the games on GOM before life took over... What an awesome tournament, great to see WhiteRa, even in his "old" age, take down MC.
Of course, that July run was scarily good, what a hero comeback.
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i think the op is a bit misleading to people who don't follow the gom world championships. everyone should know by now that the team league was a showmatch, as it was literally named. i think both foreigners and koreans weren't playing their best (aka revealing their best builds) since they don't want to reveal their best builds until the actual tournament where it matters ($$$). i don't know about the gsl, but i've watched a lot of exhibition matches in tennis and i know the scorelines are predetermined before the match to make it more entertaining (so instead of 6-3, 6-4 it would be like 6-4, 4-6, 7-6). not saying it was but raising the possibility. we already know in the single tournament, no foreigner but Dimaga actually showed something worth mentioning so i would say koreans are still ahead, obviously not as much as in BW.
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you know what? Marineking is laddering as a protoss.
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This tournament shows how much more entertaining teamleagues are. Hopefully we see more team tournaments, there are too much individual ones imo.
In regards to the MVP vs Dimaga game 1, I think MVP had that game 90%. Dimaga couldve so easily won that game if he had switched to mass muta after the first one or two ultralisk attacks. He did eventually build a spire, but the game was over by then.
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that last picture is like a collection of the most awesome sc2 players (imo) in the world.. such a good iniative and such a good result. I think it was White-Ra who said that winning wasnt the most important, but showing good mathces. Mission accomplished if you ask me.
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On April 04 2011 10:44 Steamroller wrote: Everyone should know by now that team matches meant nothing. They were only showmatches. When real tournament started only Dimaga actually managed to achieve something worth to mention. Disagree. Those "show" team matches were some of the best games I've ever seen.
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These games were very exciting for sure !
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Great writeup and awesome tournament ^^!
Too bad our two superawesome nerdballers IdrA & Naniwa weren't there to help out our cause.
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On April 04 2011 11:06 lowercase wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:44 Steamroller wrote: Everyone should know by now that team matches meant nothing. They were only showmatches. When real tournament started only Dimaga actually managed to achieve something worth to mention. Disagree. Those "show" team matches were some of the best games I've ever seen.
Well, I'm sure there have been plenty of unbelievable practice games in the IM, oGs, or Startale houses, but that doesn't mean they meant anything
Dimaga was totally sick against Nestea though. It's doubtful that the Koreans could ever pull as far ahead again as they did in Brood War; remember when Stork went 1 base Scout against Koll and won seemingly without effort? So depressing.
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This is awesome, this was never even fathomable in BW. It's not only great that we have foreigners so close in skill level with the koreans, but just the fact we have major events like this. Pretty incredible.
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Any bigger versions of the last pics with player names?
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