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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
That's a + in Blizzard's book. Your reasoning is that it takes away from the "epeen" aspect. Which Blizzard really doesn't care about when compared to the + it brings in. | ||
Neverplay
Austria532 Posts
seems like a totally unreasonable change to me. | ||
flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
In fact anyone that has ever played custom 1v1s will notice that there is a massive number of low-diamond players that are actually afraid of playing ladder 1v1s and almost exclusively play in customs because they feel that they're too bad for the ladder. Out of the people I generally play with only two of us are in masters 1v1 and we're seemingly the only ones in that group that actually like 1v1 the others all seem to focus a lot more on their losses than just playing. If this give people like them more confidence to play 1v1 and just focus on the positives (getting wins) and remove the negative part from their experience then that's great. I really hope this will be the case. I honestly can't see any downside to this, giving casual players a more positive outlook on their ladder play just can't be bad. | ||
Kinmaul
United States104 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:08 Keitzer wrote: total games minus wins boom, losses calculated.... For 1v1 that will work, but for team games it will be impossible. For team games your total games played includes games from all your teams. ---------- On February 27 2011 01:15 flodeskum wrote: Thing is, a lot of people are really discouraged from playing 1v1. I don't know if this is specifically because they feel like the public display of losses is somehow embarrassing, but it is a fact that a lot of players are just jaded with 1v1. In fact anyone that has ever played custom 1v1s will notice that there is a massive number of low-diamond players that are actually afraid of playing ladder 1v1s and almost exclusively play in customs because they feel that they're too bad for the ladder. Out of the people I generally play with only two of us are in masters 1v1 and we're seemingly the only ones in that group that actually like 1v1 the others all seem to focus a lot more on their losses than just playing. If this give people like them more confidence to play 1v1 and just focus on the positives (getting wins) and remove the negative part from their experience then that's great. I really hope this will be the case. I honestly can't see any downside to this, giving casual players a more positive outlook on their ladder play just can't be bad. So you hide their wins and then they still won't play because they don't want their rating to go down. Or they don't play because they are at the bottom of their league in Diamond and are worried about getting demoted to Gold. I agree with you and I agree with Blizzard's logic but as long as their is something to lose, and you will still lose rating, the people that are afraid to ladder will continue to avoid it. That's not a game issue, the game is meant to be competative. That is a confidence issue with the individual person. | ||
imareaver3
United States906 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:08 Keitzer wrote: total games minus wins boom, losses calculated.... That would be valid... ...if they didn't hide your total games, too. | ||
StateSC2
Korea (South)621 Posts
Can someone post some screenies? I'm really interested in seeing how the setup looks. | ||
sh4w
United States713 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:16 Kinmaul wrote: For 1v1 that will work, but for team games it will be impossible. For team games your total games played includes games from all your teams. There are team games in starcraft? :D Pretty insignificant change not sure what all the fuss is about. People really should try to focus less on how they are presented on the ladder. | ||
Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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philipov
United States81 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:15 flodeskum wrote: Thing is, a lot of people are really discouraged from playing 1v1. I don't know if this is specifically because they feel like the public display of losses is somehow embarrassing, but it is a fact that a lot of players are just jaded with 1v1. In fact anyone that has ever played custom 1v1s will notice that there is a massive number of low-diamond players that are actually afraid of playing ladder 1v1s and almost exclusively play in customs because they feel that they're too bad for the ladder. I don't know where you're getting this "players are afraid to play 1v1 ladder". It sounds like you're just making up facts to suit your views. Well, on that note, I'd say the real reason that a massive number of players don't play ladder is because of blizzard's nazi map pool policies. Custom games let you play the maps you want. | ||
NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:15 flodeskum wrote: Thing is, a lot of people are really discouraged from playing 1v1. I don't know if this is specifically because they feel like the public display of losses is somehow embarrassing, but it is a fact that a lot of players are just jaded with 1v1. In fact anyone that has ever played custom 1v1s will notice that there is a massive number of low-diamond players that are actually afraid of playing ladder 1v1s and almost exclusively play in customs because they feel that they're too bad for the ladder. Out of the people I generally play with only two of us are in masters 1v1 and we're seemingly the only ones in that group that actually like 1v1 the others all seem to focus a lot more on their losses than just playing. If this give people like them more confidence to play 1v1 and just focus on the positives (getting wins) and remove the negative part from their experience then that's great. I really hope this will be the case. I honestly can't see any downside to this, giving casual players a more positive outlook on their ladder play just can't be bad. Yeah, and Blizzard seems dead set against fixing the map pool, which is a much bigger issue with people hating 1v1. (Because their idea of fixing is making it worse). So clearly this is a good idea. >_> If they want to make everyone "feel good" why bother even having different leagues and showing wins for that matter? | ||
-{Cake}-
United States217 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:15 flodeskum wrote: Thing is, a lot of people are really discouraged from playing 1v1. I don't know if this is specifically because they feel like the public display of losses is somehow embarrassing, but it is a fact that a lot of players are just jaded with 1v1. In fact anyone that has ever played custom 1v1s will notice that there is a massive number of low-diamond players that are actually afraid of playing ladder 1v1s and almost exclusively play in customs because they feel that they're too bad for the ladder. Out of the people I generally play with only two of us are in masters 1v1 and we're seemingly the only ones in that group that actually like 1v1 the others all seem to focus a lot more on their losses than just playing. If this give people like them more confidence to play 1v1 and just focus on the positives (getting wins) and remove the negative part from their experience then that's great. I really hope this will be the case. I honestly can't see any downside to this, giving casual players a more positive outlook on their ladder play just can't be bad. this, It changes ladder from stat whoring to a practice system, and encourages people to play more | ||
andrewwiggin
Australia435 Posts
why does anyone care? Will this affect your gameplay? No. Will this change strategies? No. Can you use match history to get a sense of your overall most recent w/l ratio? Yes.(which is more important than your overall w/l ratio too!). Will this help more people ladder? Yes. .... all in all, I don't know why people so hot n bothered. Take a chill pill, breathe in and out, jump up and down and keep laddering because this affects your ability to play the game by about.. zero. | ||
Darkthorn
Romania912 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:19 Velocirapture wrote: I dont know what the purpose of showing losses really is... win/loss is one of the worst indications of skill in the game. You are probably better off using somebody's rank to judge skill and that is terrible. Taking the focus away from w/l in this childish way may be stupid but anybody who is worth anything in the scene will only care about your points anyways. /sarcasm on Do you mean your bonus pool? /sarcasm off You can get a lot of points from having winning streaks with bonus pool... | ||
LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:08 Keitzer wrote: total games minus wins boom, losses calculated.... Doesn't even tell you how many games you've played now. The total games played counter is no longer there in your profile. | ||
Munk-E
United States672 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:22 Darkthorn wrote: /sarcasm on Do you mean your bonus pool? /sarcasm off You can get a lot of points from having winning streaks with bonus pool... yes yes yes, we all know about bonus pool but find me one pro who says "55% win rate is pro level past 300 games" and I will find you 10 thats will use points to determine skill (such as "3500+ masters are quality players"). | ||
tuestresfat
2555 Posts
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On February 27 2011 01:21 andrewwiggin wrote: LOL... why does anyone care? Will this affect your gameplay? No. Will this change strategies? No. Can you use match history to get a sense of your overall most recent w/l ratio? Yes.(which is more important than your overall w/l ratio too!). Will this help more people ladder? Yes. .... all in all, I don't know why people so hot n bothered. Take a chill pill, breathe in and out, jump up and down and keep laddering because this affects your ability to play the game by about.. zero. I'm a competitive player despite having only made it to Diamond, and I like knowing my w/l ratio. Removing the loss counter would make the game a lot less competitive for me, I think i'd lose my desire to ladder. | ||
imareaver3
United States906 Posts
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