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Node
United States2159 Posts
As such, I take full credit for this victory. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Not to mention that if they were to lynch one of the malfoys, it would go from 6v4 to 5v2 (skipping two steps), which was likely anyway. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
if both hits went through, it was 7-6. if you lost a non-malfoy, it would be 7-5. then 5-5, game over. so the analysis was correct: town HAD to block a hit to survive. they did, so they won. it literally came down to town needing to block a hit -- this seems like excellent balance to me. notice how many roles i wrote that involved night protection... this was intentionally part of the balance makeup. i expected missed hits. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 23 2010 18:27 CubEdIn wrote: We realized that when kita said that hits have been accounted for. ALL town was working together (well we weren't sure about deconduo but other than him...) The second hit actually wasn't accounted for, but I wasn't going to give Barundar a chance to escape the lynch. It probably would have turned up eventually though. P.S. Awesome day/night posts from annul. They were definitely fun to read. Thanks for hosting ^_^ | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 24 2010 06:05 kitaman27 wrote: The second hit actually wasn't accounted for, but I wasn't going to give Barundar a chance to escape the lynch. It probably would have turned up eventually though. P.S. Awesome day/night posts from annul. They were definitely fun to read. Thanks for hosting ^_^ the two blocked kills: meapak under medic and node was a veteran and ty =D | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I'm NOT saying the game was imba. We would have a fair fighting chance IF the town didn't know who we all were. But due to claims and matching said claims to names, the town was too well informed. I never said the hosting was flawed, just that there were too many role-claims that were easily matched to names in PM land. Perhaps an extra 10 roles or so that may/may not be in the game would have turned the tables. That was a good suggestion. Anyway, gg, looking forward to the next one. Especially to getting back at kita. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
my harry potter mafia took it to heart with flavor that actually mattered what game it was ps grats on evasion? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 23 2010 11:56 Mr.Zergling wrote: Well gg all, Due to Mod confirmed town circles, the mafia were going to have a hard time bandwagonning us into lynching town on the last few days. Yeah, I think that was the biggest design flaw in this game. Mason circles have to be handled carefully and a full house claim early ends up with 12 confirmed townies and gives the mafia zero room to counterclaim. Once everyone was pressured into revealing their role to some extent, I think it was a nearly impossible situation for scum to hide in. I played this game very sloppily and didn't pay much attention and I slipped up a lot. Killing jcarlsoniv on the first night should have been our move. Switching to my main was a big mistake, I thought I could goad newer players into trusting me and going along with what I said and I was able to railroad meapak just a little bit but Kitaman27 hounded me too far. I don't like the way Kitaman played though. Lying to get someone who you think is scum lynched is never a good idea, because you need to account for the fact that you just might maybe be wrong. There was a lot of lying on the town side. Remember: mafia is the only faction that needs to lie. If town is ok with using lies to achieve goals, they can't take advantage of that. This game was set-up perfectly for town to destroy death eaters by catching them in lies. All of the stuff that went down in this game is the prime reason I'm starting to really dislike themed games. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
i think 1. if the original balance at 41 was intact it wouldve been better, and 2. i should have added more than 31 names to the list, to give mafia the room to fake claim with more safety. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 26 2010 18:52 annul wrote: there was a fatal assumption that there were 12 confirmed townies, considering there were only 6. i never said all houses existed in the game. i think 1. if the original balance at 41 was intact it wouldve been better, and 2. i should have added more than 31 names to the list, to give mafia the room to fake claim with more safety. Honestly, even in a game of that number having just 1 or 2 confirmed townies can be a huge problem for mafia especially if PM's are involved. One thing that can give the mafia an advantage is spinning focus on to "worshipping confirmed townies" rather than scumhunting but because there was zero room for mafia to really lie effectively in this game (which mafia need to do to survive) it didn't really work out. I basically felt that I needed to keep the town focused on scumhunting to win and that was a bothersome idea. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 26 2010 18:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't like the way Kitaman played though. Lying to get someone who you think is scum lynched is never a good idea, because you need to account for the fact that you just might maybe be wrong. Well in that situation I knew I wasn't wrong since there couldn't be two Pomfreys, but I get what you are saying. The dt story was true since jcarl did check the real pomfrey, but I agree I should have went about it better. At the time, I had thought I was the only protection ability still alive and the numbers looked like we would to have to stop a hit or two so I didn't claim medic, but perhaps I should have. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On December 23 2010 22:51 annul wrote: it was 9-6 AT NIGHT. if both hits went through, it was 7-6. if you lost a non-malfoy, it would be 7-5. then 5-5, game over. so the analysis was correct: town HAD to block a hit to survive. they did, so they won. it literally came down to town needing to block a hit -- this seems like excellent balance to me. notice how many roles i wrote that involved night protection... this was intentionally part of the balance makeup. i expected missed hits. ....What....They we're lynching Narcissa already during the beginning of the day. Check the vote thread. We were fucked. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
But, again, the chances of us missing one hit were extremely high anyway. Like half the people were protected or something. It doesn't really matter, the roles were cool, the claiming was less cool. May the next one be better. Oh and Happy Holidays.  | ||
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