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I really do not know why people are voting those two I guess they're better candidates than RoL and LSB. Since they both aren't scummy looking.
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On December 12 2010 14:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 14:39 orgolove wrote:Why are you giving any thought to RoL, when he clearly mentioned that he will ignore the majority opinion and vote based on feelings? This is ridiculous! Come on, if someone just comes by and says "hey, vote for me, I'm going to kill whoever I want to kill" you'd be a complete idiot to vote for him, and that's exactly what he's saying. Need I repeat this again? On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas. On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2. Again, if you didn't get it: The masses are stupid Its actually not even a hunch, [b]I just want to kill LSB Are you really going to vote for someone who openly says he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills? err EBWOP sorry I said I would fully be accountable for who I killed btw. Its a burden I would be willing to take on. Look at my above post with my LSB analysis. In this current system if we voted for LSB he would be able to sherk off blame/responsibility because the masses made the decision even though hes the one pulling the trigger. It is really stupid to pretend that it is still a majority lynch, that is like saying America is a true democracy even though someone else is making the final decision. I was willing to take the burden of the MoM kill in deciding who I was going to put down and on top of that I was willing to take responsibility for that outcome. I would be lying if I said that I think a majority decision is always the best way to do it. The mafia is rightfully scared of one good player getting that first kill off and it not belonging to a townie. Its hard to mount a really strong case against someone day 1 and its much easier for the mafia to manipulate a mislynch which is why they would prefer to do exactly what LSB is doing and deferring the mislynch back into the towns hands and allowing us to fuck it up on our own volition, or so we would be led to believe.
So are you suggesting for a private group to decide the lynch?
-If we picked a mafia mayor, his private group would decide to lynch
a non mafia. (bad)
-If we picked a town mayor, he would then pick his private group (quite likely the vet players who shown good understanding in the game).
What makes a private group more favorable to decide the lynch when we have town veteran players without information against mafia veteran players with information. (information refers to knowing who is town and who is mafia).
-My last point is how if they lynch a town, what would we do then? Have the mayor release a list of players involve in making the decision and we pay special attention to them. This is the only benefit of having the private group.
My conclusion is how do we know if the mayor is not mafia. Also can you provide a plan after the private group lynched a townie? I don't see much benefit of having the private lynch just to decide who to lynch for day 1 .
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Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far:
On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me 
On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor?  Vote for me instead.
On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won.
On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything.
On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though
Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core.
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Actually... i have no clue what is going and don't know the remaining time to vote and don't want to be mod killed so I just made a random vote.. but decided against that just now since there are some people that haven't voted anyways.
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going on*
see what i did there, no editting, im learning :D
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day ends in ~13 hours, going to sleep now.
people near the top of the vote count (meapakk, zeks, etc) should be considering their lynch target (or how they will figure it out) ahead of time so i can resolve it when the day ends.
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I’m voting Meapak, but my vote would go to RoL if he resumes running. LSB’s posting quality is lower than usual, normally he is one of the most pro-town people around, and I trust RoL’s scumhunting abilities.
Also please don’t treat the day 1 lynch as a normal majority lynch. A majority voting day 1 mafia lynch is rare, and major voting is a tool to remedy that. To ignore this mechanic would be to throw away an advantage.
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On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far: Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have? Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core.
I'm not lurking. I'm learning.
LSB and RoL both appear to have an agenda that does not appear to be in our best interests.
I may change my vote yet before the poll closes but I wanted to make it clear I don't support RoL or LSB without making a stupid sounding post in here.
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Speaking of lurkers, what's up with the people posting plenty in Pokemafia, but completely disregarding this?
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On December 12 2010 23:09 Barundar wrote:
Speaking of lurkers, what's up with the people posting plenty in Pokemafia, but completely disregarding this?
Analyze them. Playing in multiple games is a good way to catch players off-guard
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On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far: Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have? Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything. Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core.
Just woke up, I was skimming through the thread and was just thinking of this.
Here's how it went:
1. He announced candidacy. I voted for him in the first 5-10mins, because I find the votes for Meapak suspicious.
2. Plenty of time later, a few more people vote for him. "out of the blue" so to say.
3. Meapak posts that he'll probably kill deconduo, because of his suspicious voters
4. ilovejonn switches his vote to himself
Now, please explain:
a) How are there "many votes out of the blue"? I explained mine, and then there were 2 more votes. He never got to be the first place or anything
b) Why would ilovejonn switch his post after Meapak threatened to lynch deconduo due to people voting for him out of the blue? I'm sorry but this looks like a very harsh slip-up from a newbie red. If deconduo dies and he flips red, then ilovejonn should die instantly.
Even if deconduo isn't red, it's still a very weird and scummish move in my eyes.
I must admit that I'm really scared of the alternative winning conditions. I get the reasoning behind meapak's idea, and I know we're short on alternatives, but I don't think there are enough clues to actually take down deconduo because of it.
Please think a bit better before you kill him.
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On December 12 2010 23:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 23:09 Barundar wrote:
Speaking of lurkers, what's up with the people posting plenty in Pokemafia, but completely disregarding this? Analyze them. Playing in multiple games is a good way to catch players off-guard
Cheers, will try. Wish some would make atleast a first post though >_<
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On December 12 2010 23:28 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 23:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:On December 12 2010 23:09 Barundar wrote:
Speaking of lurkers, what's up with the people posting plenty in Pokemafia, but completely disregarding this? Analyze them. Playing in multiple games is a good way to catch players off-guard Cheers, will try. Wish some would make atleast a first post though >_<
That could be a scum indicator. You should pressure people who are being really quiet. They won't speak up if they don't have to.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
another obligatory lol post
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On December 13 2010 00:51 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 23:28 Barundar wrote:On December 12 2010 23:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:On December 12 2010 23:09 Barundar wrote:
Speaking of lurkers, what's up with the people posting plenty in Pokemafia, but completely disregarding this? Analyze them. Playing in multiple games is a good way to catch players off-guard Cheers, will try. Wish some would make atleast a first post though >_< That could be a scum indicator. You should pressure people who are being really quiet. They won't speak up if they don't have to.
Especially the case when you call people out by name. It's always funny to see when you mention a player specifically and then all of a sudden they start posting. Let's try
Hey, ghote, all you've done so far is vote for LSB because of his "MS Paint skills", any other thoughts?
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If everyone can start voting for their lynch in this thread through
##Vote: Player
That would make the eventual MoM's job a lot easier. TYVM
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On December 12 2010 23:26 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far: On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead. On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have? Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything. On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core. Just woke up, I was skimming through the thread and was just thinking of this. Here's how it went: 1. He announced candidacy. I voted for him in the first 5-10mins, because I find the votes for Meapak suspicious. 2. Plenty of time later, a few more people vote for him. "out of the blue" so to say. 3. Meapak posts that he'll probably kill deconduo, because of his suspicious voters 4. ilovejonn switches his vote to himself Now, please explain: a) How are there "many votes out of the blue"? I explained mine, and then there were 2 more votes. He never got to be the first place or anything b) Why would ilovejonn switch his post after Meapak threatened to lynch deconduo due to people voting for him out of the blue? I'm sorry but this looks like a very harsh slip-up from a newbie red. If deconduo dies and he flips red, then ilovejonn should die instantly. Even if deconduo isn't red, it's still a very weird and scummish move in my eyes. I must admit that I'm really scared of the alternative winning conditions. I get the reasoning behind meapak's idea, and I know we're short on alternatives, but I don't think there are enough clues to actually take down deconduo because of it. Please think a bit better before you kill him.
I agree with you CubedIn very good analysis. From what you had said I am persuaded to think that deconduo may be a red. Using our first lynch on him would be a good start. If he turns out red which CubedIn stated we should lynch ilovejohn. This looks like the most reasonable suggestion we have gotten today. Not from "VIBES" but from reasonable logic.
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On December 13 2010 01:41 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2010 23:26 CubEdIn wrote:On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far: On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead. On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have? Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything. On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler +Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game?? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won. That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core. Just woke up, I was skimming through the thread and was just thinking of this. Here's how it went: 1. He announced candidacy. I voted for him in the first 5-10mins, because I find the votes for Meapak suspicious. 2. Plenty of time later, a few more people vote for him. "out of the blue" so to say. 3. Meapak posts that he'll probably kill deconduo, because of his suspicious voters 4. ilovejonn switches his vote to himself Now, please explain: a) How are there "many votes out of the blue"? I explained mine, and then there were 2 more votes. He never got to be the first place or anything b) Why would ilovejonn switch his post after Meapak threatened to lynch deconduo due to people voting for him out of the blue? I'm sorry but this looks like a very harsh slip-up from a newbie red. If deconduo dies and he flips red, then ilovejonn should die instantly. Even if deconduo isn't red, it's still a very weird and scummish move in my eyes. I must admit that I'm really scared of the alternative winning conditions. I get the reasoning behind meapak's idea, and I know we're short on alternatives, but I don't think there are enough clues to actually take down deconduo because of it. Please think a bit better before you kill him. I agree with you CubedIn very good analysis. From what you had said I am persuaded to think that deconduo may be a red. Using our first lynch on him would be a good start. If he turns out red which CubedIn stated we should lynch ilovejohn. This looks like the most reasonable suggestion we have gotten today. Not from "VIBES" but from reasonable logic.
Excuse me what are the reasons behind having me lynched again? Because 3 people voted for me? Cube gave good solid reasons, and the other 2 people are newbs that are probably sheeping or randomly voting. Meapaks bandwagon is MUCH more suspicious.
Your logic is all over the place. 'Decon might be red cos ilovejohn voted for him and ilovejohn is scummy. So lynch decon'. WTF, in that situation you suggest lynching ilovejohn.
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This logic to lynch deconduo isn't good.
What does it mean to get a vote "out of the blue" a lot of times a player will say "oh, this person came out of nowhere and..."
what does that mean? coming out of nowhere? u have to post eventually so I don't understand. I think maybe mafia want to distract. instead of defend LSB they give us a new target and make us split up.
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EBWOP:
In that situation you *should* suggest lynching ilovejohn, not me.
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