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On December 04 2010 19:41 Brandish wrote:
This has to be fake, all prison records are public information and the state of michigan has had no murders in any of its prisons for the past 4 years
Because everything that happens in life that should be public information gets released to the public?
lol? Things get hidden under the rug all the time. Its not surprising that they wouldn't make a murder public information in a high security prison. And it wouldn't be the first time government hid deaths. Was reading on BBC that, according to wiki leak records, 15k more civilians have died than reported. But civilian deaths were being reported to the public, doesn't mean everything is.
There is no way to actually know, also it might take awhile for murders in prisons to become public information. They probably dont release that kind of thing on a daily update. He speaks in detail, why be so fast to call BS?
Either way the post is a great insight on many levels, shouldnt just bash it because its so unbelievable to you that someone has died in prison, and they havent made it public information. Read every word, i should have went to bed hours ago. Very interesting to hear real prison slang terms, even if it is a little graphic.
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Before this thread my goal in life was to get a decent job and make some money and be happy.
Having read this thread my goal in life is not to go to prison.
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This thread really gets you thinking, good read. :}
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Funny, every link I've tried googling so far links to this thread. TL getting popular? :D
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On December 04 2010 21:24 OutlaW- wrote:
Funny, every link I've tried googling so far links to this thread. TL getting popular? :D
yeah...I didn't know it would become that big O_O;;
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This thread is amazing. I didn't finish it fully but I bookmarked it for further reading later. It's really demoralizing and I think a smart person should take a lesson and not end up there.
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On December 04 2010 21:24 OutlaW- wrote:
Funny, every link I've tried googling so far links to this thread. TL getting popular? :D
I think google tracks your recent searches and analyze them and shows you results that you are likely to be interested in. However, I'm not sure about this, cause I've only heard about it from friends who use greesemonkey scripts on Firefox.
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On December 04 2010 20:47 actionbastrd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 19:41 Brandish wrote:
This has to be fake, all prison records are public information and the state of michigan has had no murders in any of its prisons for the past 4 years Because everything that happens in life that should be public information gets released to the public? lol? Things get hidden under the rug all the time. Its not surprising that they wouldn't make a murder public information in a high security prison. And it wouldn't be the first time government hid deaths. Was reading on BBC that, according to wiki leak records, 15k more civilians have died than reported. But civilian deaths were being reported to the public, doesn't mean everything is. There is no way to actually know, also it might take awhile for murders in prisons to become public information. They probably dont release that kind of thing on a daily update. He speaks in detail, why be so fast to call BS? Either way the post is a great insight on many levels, shouldnt just bash it because its so unbelievable to you that someone has died in prison, and they havent made it public information. Read every word, i should have went to bed hours ago. Very interesting to hear real prison slang terms, even if it is a little graphic.
Other Dead Giveaways:
The Aryan Brotherhood does not have a significant presence in Michigan. There may be a few members or wannabe's but that's it.
There were not even close to the number of murders he claims in Michigan prisons. I knew it didn't sound right - looked it up and confirmed it.
Nobody calls the guards "screws" (At least not here). Everybody calls them CO's (Corrections officers).
You can't do phone banking from inside because you have to submit a list of up to 20 numbers that you might want to call - and they have to be approved. All calls are monitored and they have software that prevents 3-way calling or other tricks.
Nobody pronounces "Level 5" as "Level V". Inmates are retarded but everyone knows what a fucking roman numeral V is, and they sure as hell know what level prison they are in.
Rape almost never happens.
Almost every prison has exercise equipment (bought by the prisoners fund which is collected as a tax on prisoners store bought goods). Anything can be used as a weapon, but the administrators know that men are less antsy and violent when they have something to use their energy on so they always make sure to have weights since it makes the prison easier to run.
Nobody calls it "solitary" in Michigan. The hole is the hole. And nobody is sent to the hole to open up bed space lol. Convicts are kept in overcrowded county jails until a bed opens up for them in prison.
His story visiting day is complete fabrication. You can deny a visit very easily and the CO's don't give a shit one way or the other.
You don't get an allowance to spend on food. If you have a prison job you earn the meager few dollars to spend in the store, if you don't have a job you get nothing.
Candy isn't used as currency, tobacco and soap is.
Parole is 2 years, not 1. That's not something you would forget.
There is no "DA" in Michigan, its a prosecutor.
His story about the CO's "redialing" the phone for you is fucking funny. Not only does it go completely against the way the phone system works, but you have to pay for your phone calls so that story gets double lulz.
I could go on and on and on but I can't read any further. Cliff Notes version - you've been trolled.
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On December 05 2010 03:53 Brandish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 20:47 actionbastrd wrote:On December 04 2010 19:41 Brandish wrote:
This has to be fake, all prison records are public information and the state of michigan has had no murders in any of its prisons for the past 4 years Because everything that happens in life that should be public information gets released to the public? lol? Things get hidden under the rug all the time. Its not surprising that they wouldn't make a murder public information in a high security prison. And it wouldn't be the first time government hid deaths. Was reading on BBC that, according to wiki leak records, 15k more civilians have died than reported. But civilian deaths were being reported to the public, doesn't mean everything is. There is no way to actually know, also it might take awhile for murders in prisons to become public information. They probably dont release that kind of thing on a daily update. He speaks in detail, why be so fast to call BS? Either way the post is a great insight on many levels, shouldnt just bash it because its so unbelievable to you that someone has died in prison, and they havent made it public information. Read every word, i should have went to bed hours ago. Very interesting to hear real prison slang terms, even if it is a little graphic. Other Dead Giveaways: The Aryan Brotherhood does not have a significant presence in Michigan. There may be a few members or wannabe's but that's it. There were not even close to the number of murders he claims in Michigan prisons. I knew it didn't sound right - looked it up and confirmed it. Nobody calls the guards "screws" (At least not here). Everybody calls them CO's (Corrections officers). You can't do phone banking from inside because you have to submit a list of up to 20 numbers that you might want to call - and they have to be approved. All calls are monitored and they have software that prevents 3-way calling or other tricks. Nobody pronounces "Level 5" as "Level V". Inmates are retarded but everyone knows what a fucking roman numeral V is, and they sure as hell know what level prison they are in. Rape almost never happens. Almost every prison has exercise equipment (bought by the prisoners fund which is collected as a tax on prisoners store bought goods). Anything can be used as a weapon, but the administrators know that men are less antsy and violent when they have something to use their energy on so they always make sure to have weights since it makes the prison easier to run. Nobody calls it "solitary" in Michigan. The hole is the hole. And nobody is sent to the hole to open up bed space lol. Convicts are kept in overcrowded county jails until a bed opens up for them in prison. His story visiting day is complete fabrication. You can deny a visit very easily and the CO's don't give a shit one way or the other. You don't get an allowance to spend on food. If you have a prison job you earn the meager few dollars to spend in the store, if you don't have a job you get nothing. Candy isn't used as currency, tobacco and soap is. Parole is 2 years, not 1. That's not something you would forget. There is no "DA" in Michigan, its a prosecutor. His story about the CO's "redialing" the phone for you is fucking funny. Not only does it go completely against the way the phone system works, but you have to pay for your phone calls so that story gets double lulz. I could go on and on and on but I can't read any further. Cliff Notes version - you've been trolled.
I dont know whose been trolled, the people who just enjoyed a good story fiction or not, or the person who made an account and spent all this time trying to prove that we got trolled.
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On December 05 2010 03:53 Brandish wrote:
Other Dead Giveaways:
Do you actually live in Michigan?
Because I live in Illinois and I can tell you from firsthand experience a lot of those "dead giveaways" are not true over here.
There's a lot of questionable things about this story, but the author definitely gets the feelings right, and if it's a fabrication, he did his research from real firsthand accounts. So I'm of the belief that this account is at least partially true.
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On December 05 2010 03:56 omfghi2u2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 03:53 Brandish wrote:On December 04 2010 20:47 actionbastrd wrote:On December 04 2010 19:41 Brandish wrote:
This has to be fake, all prison records are public information and the state of michigan has had no murders in any of its prisons for the past 4 years Because everything that happens in life that should be public information gets released to the public? lol? Things get hidden under the rug all the time. Its not surprising that they wouldn't make a murder public information in a high security prison. And it wouldn't be the first time government hid deaths. Was reading on BBC that, according to wiki leak records, 15k more civilians have died than reported. But civilian deaths were being reported to the public, doesn't mean everything is. There is no way to actually know, also it might take awhile for murders in prisons to become public information. They probably dont release that kind of thing on a daily update. He speaks in detail, why be so fast to call BS? Either way the post is a great insight on many levels, shouldnt just bash it because its so unbelievable to you that someone has died in prison, and they havent made it public information. Read every word, i should have went to bed hours ago. Very interesting to hear real prison slang terms, even if it is a little graphic. Other Dead Giveaways: The Aryan Brotherhood does not have a significant presence in Michigan. There may be a few members or wannabe's but that's it. There were not even close to the number of murders he claims in Michigan prisons. I knew it didn't sound right - looked it up and confirmed it. Nobody calls the guards "screws" (At least not here). Everybody calls them CO's (Corrections officers). You can't do phone banking from inside because you have to submit a list of up to 20 numbers that you might want to call - and they have to be approved. All calls are monitored and they have software that prevents 3-way calling or other tricks. Nobody pronounces "Level 5" as "Level V". Inmates are retarded but everyone knows what a fucking roman numeral V is, and they sure as hell know what level prison they are in. Rape almost never happens. Almost every prison has exercise equipment (bought by the prisoners fund which is collected as a tax on prisoners store bought goods). Anything can be used as a weapon, but the administrators know that men are less antsy and violent when they have something to use their energy on so they always make sure to have weights since it makes the prison easier to run. Nobody calls it "solitary" in Michigan. The hole is the hole. And nobody is sent to the hole to open up bed space lol. Convicts are kept in overcrowded county jails until a bed opens up for them in prison. His story visiting day is complete fabrication. You can deny a visit very easily and the CO's don't give a shit one way or the other. You don't get an allowance to spend on food. If you have a prison job you earn the meager few dollars to spend in the store, if you don't have a job you get nothing. Candy isn't used as currency, tobacco and soap is. Parole is 2 years, not 1. That's not something you would forget. There is no "DA" in Michigan, its a prosecutor. His story about the CO's "redialing" the phone for you is fucking funny. Not only does it go completely against the way the phone system works, but you have to pay for your phone calls so that story gets double lulz. I could go on and on and on but I can't read any further. Cliff Notes version - you've been trolled. I dont know whose been trolled, the people who just enjoyed a good story fiction or not, or the person who made an account and spent all this time trying to prove that we got trolled.
I'm not sure why people find the need to make personal attacks on others but I didn't write that, i just copied and pasted it from another thread about this story. I just decided to stop being a TL lurker around the same time the 26th page of this thread was complete, oh yeah.
In no way have I said that I have not enjoyed the story, because I will admit, it is a good work of fiction.
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I get the train nevery week, and sit next to a guy who did two years in jail. The European jail system doesn't seem anywhere near as rough, but those talks were some of the most eye opening and insightful discussions I've ever had.
I'm amazed at how frank the guy in this thread is, he's clearly had time to think, and we're profiting.
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it reminds me of the game Demon's Souls....
To the people saying it's fake I can't help but think it's just because you can't accept the horrid truth. I can't help but feel anger towards you either. To me, stories like this are innocent until proven guilty.
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Great read.
I'm just wondering if it's like that in Europe as well.
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hay im new here and just read this if you don't mined me saying its true that some people have a bad time in prison but to be honest it just depends what sort of stuff you do and say in there I mean its just siting eating working out sleeping showering talking doing drills ect that's what it was like in prison for me but every one has a different experience so its not so bad but still bad at the same time see ^-^
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Two people with 1 Post bumping the same thread subsequently?
somethin not right
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On May 09 2013 04:29 caradoc wrote:
Two people with 1 Post bumping the same thread subsequently?
somethin not right
OP coming back to ego trip.
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On May 09 2013 04:31 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 04:29 caradoc wrote:
Two people with 1 Post bumping the same thread subsequently?
somethin not right OP coming back to ego trip.
Or some guy hoping to advertise his book.
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On May 09 2013 04:25 Hugh Yonn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:59 Ciel Alexander wrote:
hay im new here and just read this if you don't mined me saying its true that some people have a bad time in prison but to be honest it just depends what sort of stuff you do and say in there I mean its just siting eating working out sleeping showering talking doing drills ect that's what it was like in prison for me but every one has a different experience so its not so bad but still bad at the same time see ^-^ I spent 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense. No, it was not for simple possession. I was arrested aboard a Lockheed PV2 in Marianna, Florida. Then charged and convicted for conspiracy to import and distribute 12,000 pounds of marijuana. I have written 3 books about those escapades. My first, tells of the great times I and my friends had in the pot business. The next 2 are tales of things I saw and heard while in prison. Some of the stories are humorous...some are brutal. I just found this thread and thought I would add my two cents. I would be honored by your reviews. If you google my name, Hugh Yonn, the books will miraculously appear. I wish all of you the very best.
Oh man, I bet you're really that guy.
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