EPT[GSL] Open S1 - QuarterFinals - Page 82
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Zakka
Netherlands762 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I know everytime a terran wins everyone say that was some shit games, but I really liked the cool's 6 pool, then his bane play in set 2 (wich zerg player other than him even think about making banes in this situation ? That was just brilliant, and I don't even talk of the execution, one of the best game I've seen, and I watch A LOT of games) Tester vs rainbow was very interresting, perfect build and macro from rainbow, and tester for the first time showed he's human and can make mistakes when playing a better player than him (or at least a player as good as him). In tester vs hyperdub, he overcame a much bigger army deficit losing nearly nothing. In game 1, he makes a bad counter and dosen't reinforce against rainbow flawless macro. Then lose his colossus, that cost him the game. He never does those kind of mistakes, but he has today. Ensnare match is very interresting too from a terran POV, the build and execution were really flawless. It really seems that most terrans comes with a game-plan (and sometime don't deviate from it even if it can't work, see maka set2), while protosses just wait and see. (but I can be wrong obviously) | ||
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SaturnAttack
United States125 Posts
I wonder if that rumor of him having a cold is true, I can imagine the mental fatigue wearing a bit especially with such a short break in between games. I think more time between each round might be good, it seems like we had a huge gap between the first set of games of Ro16, while Ro8 and the semis followed after consecutively. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 29 2010 02:41 SaturnAttack wrote: Still it's a punch in the gut moment for fans watching. To see him pull of some of the most epic saves in the whole tournament only to lose twice dying in a fire into a MMM concave... I wonder if that rumor of him having a cold is true, I can imagine the mental fatigue wearing a bit especially with such a short break in between games. I think more time between each round might be good, it seems like we had a huge gap between the first set of games of Ro16, while Ro8 and the semis followed after consecutively. true. Having a cold makes everything so hard that that could explain his "sloppy" play. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 29 2010 02:42 MrCon wrote: And don't forget tester actualy won the first battle at his expo (set 2 on sow). But then he chase the fleeing army of rainbow, who gets reinforced while tester's is not and he end up losing everything for being greedy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6446030 He didn't technically WIN that fight - ITR pulled out at the right time. If tester pulled off the forcefields perfectly, ITR would definitely have lost that battle, and more than likely lost his gold expo while tester keeps his 3rd. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
...and three Ts. For the swarm my brother! | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH Never been so worked up since Boxer vs oov Golden Mouse match >_< | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 29 2010 02:48 JinDesu wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6446030 He didn't technically WIN that fight - ITR pulled out at the right time. If tester pulled off the forcefields perfectly, ITR would definitely have lost that battle, and more than likely lost his gold expo while tester keeps his 3rd. True. (but I talked about the sow game :p In that game, after the first big fight tester has 2 immo, 2 zealots, 3 sentries and 2 stalkers left. Rainbow had 5 marauders and 1 marine + 3 medivacs and is retreating. Tester chase him, rainbow stims and takes down the 2 immortals because they have no shield left. Then rainbow retreats again, tester chase him again, then rainbow meets his reinforcements, turn back and clean tester's forces) | ||
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Pbartender
Netherlands55 Posts
Though I wish the early aggression had been held off more than once in the last three matches, because then the games get really interesting; Fruitseller countering the zealot rush is a good example. And I wish a Terran player had tried to go for Day9's Funday Monday. *g* | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
Way to go Cool! | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:11 MrCon wrote: True. (but I talked about the sow game :p In that game, after the first big fight tester has 2 immo, 2 zealots, 3 sentries and 2 stalkers left. Rainbow had 5 marauders and 1 marine + 3 medivacs and is retreating. Tester chase him, rainbow stims and takes down the 2 immortals because they have no shield left. Then rainbow retreats again, tester chase him again, then rainbow meets his reinforcements, turn back and clean tester's forces) Woops - I apologize. You are completely right there. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10300 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:13 SkyTheUnknown wrote: If Cool wins this tournament he can call himself the best player in the world by far. Entering Semifinals in this elite tournament as a Zerg is already mind-blowing. He's the player I have the most respect for at the moment. Way to go Cool! and if Cool wins, every single Terran and Protoss will say "see Zerg is fine, hur hur hur /goes back to ezmode"  watch it, it will happen(if he wins ofc) | ||
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theherder2
United States538 Posts
Sorry, I didn't follow the old BW scene closely, was there a lot of FA success there? | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
In what perspective this game can compare to broodwar ? Really disapointed in this Ro8, i mean no expending, no macro, just pure micro all inish plays and there is nothing wrong with that, i just feel that i'm watching wc3 and not starcraft. Only hero of the day is Cool incredibal balls and play. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:38 Anfere wrote: Cheese craft at it's highest level. The more you go to high level games, the more the games are some 5 mins rush or 1 base all in plays and stuff. In what perspective this game can compare to broodwar ? Really disapointed in this Ro8, i mean no expending, no macro, just pure micro all inish plays and there is nothing wrong with that, i just feel that i'm watching wc3 and not starcraft. Only hero of the day is Cool incredibal balls and play. There were multiple games of expansions. The opponents just didn't really let the expansions work. Cool vs Inca - Inca was setting up for forge fast expand, gets shut down. In fact, he even throws down the expansion after he fights off the first wave, and then promptly gets shut down again. Tester vs ITR - Both expand in game 1. Even 3rd expos are taken. Game ends shortly after that. Game 2 Tester expands, and gets shut down by 1 base play by ITR. Didn't watch Maka v LiveForever because I missed it, and Ensnare basically destroyed HongUn in the early game. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:24 theherder2 wrote: If ITR takes this I think a few, not many, but some players will recognize that the clan route may not be the best path and leave the major teams and maybe form smaller groups like TSL or remain a "free agent" like ITR. Sorry, I didn't follow the old BW scene closely, was there a lot of FA success there? No, kespa monopolized it so that you couldn't play in tournaments if you weren't in a pro team On September 29 2010 03:43 JinDesu wrote: There were multiple games of expansions. The opponents just didn't really let the expansions work. Cool vs Inca - Inca was setting up for forge fast expand, gets shut down. In fact, he even throws down the expansion after he fights off the first wave, and then promptly gets shut down again. Tester vs ITR - Both expand in game 1. Even 3rd expos are taken. Game ends shortly after that. Game 2 Tester expands, and gets shut down by 1 base play by ITR. Didn't watch Maka v LiveForever because I missed it, and Ensnare basically destroyed HongUn in the early game. Judging by about 10 posts I've recently read by you, it's extremely difficult to tell if you're serious. | ||
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SetStndbySmn
United States657 Posts
The first crucial point for Tester was chasing ITR's retreat when he really just needed to reinforce and hold the natural. The other, of course, was throwing his army away into the contain; although it looked extremely ugly, imagine his thought process when put into that situation by a player of ITR's caliber: panicked about map control, ITR's freedom to expand, his dwindling main, and whether he can feasibly obtain the tech needed to safely push out a contain in time. His conclusion was "I have to bust this now or lose"- while it wasn't the best choice I understand what caused him to make it. Tester's post-match expression seems to sum it up: "Why did I do that?". As a fellow toss player, I can empathize, as I'm sure most of us have suicided into a rax army needlessly. A well deserved win by ITR! | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:38 Anfere wrote: Cheese craft at it's highest level. The more you go to high level games, the more the games are some 5 mins rush or 1 base all in plays and stuff. In what perspective this game can compare to broodwar ? Really disapointed in this Ro8, i mean no expending, no macro, just pure micro all inish plays and there is nothing wrong with that, i just feel that i'm watching wc3 and not starcraft. Only hero of the day is Cool incredibal balls and play. You have either forgotten or were not following BW when BW pro matches were a lot of 5 min rushes and 1 base plays. Games evolve, bro. | ||
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