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On August 17 2010 01:25 Talent.L wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:19 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:15 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:13 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:07 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. Good sarcasm Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. I have my own beliefs, and regardless of the amount of criticisms and bashing in this thread, I'm gonna stick to them. And I'll think second next time I post again on TL, thanks for your reponses. It's not only on TL. You'll be faced with the criticism of others anywhere you go in this day and age, unless you go somewhere like the monestary to become a monk. Unless you're willing to keep your opinions bottled up inside, you will more than likely be faced with controversy for the values of romance/lust according to how others view them. I'd say if you can't take the heat on a forum site, you're not going to fare better amongst a crowd of peers. LOL i can't take the heat? I just posted for my own self-reflection. I wouldn't take opinions seriously from a bunch of people on the internet. And clearly Hawk misinterpreted what I said. Good sarcasm Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. I have my own beliefs, and regardless of the amount of criticisms and bashing in this thread, I'm gonna stick to them. And I'll think second next time I post again on TL, thanks for your reponses
The way I read that post, you're backing out on posting just because you find some criticism in your thread. You're getting way too hot-headed for simply defending your own "self reflections". Dude, what did you expect? What era are you living in? nah, i'm not hot headed because of criticism. I'm just saying, there are less harsh ways to contradict my opinions.
Settled, Moltke. I shall lock myself in my wine cellar for the next hour, as I angrily write a letter to you on an old lambskin parchment using my feathered pen. The contents of this note, which will be sealed in an envelope marked by a finely crafted wax imprint of a hawk, shall inform you that I intend to settle our differences with a duel. I will fight for the honor of this fine young lady. My ship will set sail for England in three days time. I shall be bringing Aaron Burr's musket. May my aim be as true as his was on July 11, 1804.
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On August 17 2010 01:34 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:25 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:19 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:15 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:13 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:07 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. Good sarcasm Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. I have my own beliefs, and regardless of the amount of criticisms and bashing in this thread, I'm gonna stick to them. And I'll think second next time I post again on TL, thanks for your reponses. It's not only on TL. You'll be faced with the criticism of others anywhere you go in this day and age, unless you go somewhere like the monestary to become a monk. Unless you're willing to keep your opinions bottled up inside, you will more than likely be faced with controversy for the values of romance/lust according to how others view them. I'd say if you can't take the heat on a forum site, you're not going to fare better amongst a crowd of peers. LOL i can't take the heat? I just posted for my own self-reflection. I wouldn't take opinions seriously from a bunch of people on the internet. And clearly Hawk misinterpreted what I said. Good sarcasm Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. I have my own beliefs, and regardless of the amount of criticisms and bashing in this thread, I'm gonna stick to them. And I'll think second next time I post again on TL, thanks for your reponses
The way I read that post, you're backing out on posting just because you find some criticism in your thread. You're getting way too hot-headed for simply defending your own "self reflections". Dude, what did you expect? What era are you living in? nah, i'm not hot headed because of criticism. I'm just saying, there are less harsh ways to contradict my opinions. Settled, Moltke. I shall lock myself in my wine cellar for the next hour, as I angrily write a letter to you on an old lambskin parchment using my feathered pen. The contents of this note, which will be sealed in an envelope marked by a finely crafted wax imprint of a hawk, shall inform you that I intend to settle our differences with a duel. I will fight for the honor of this fine young lady. My ship will set sail for England in three days time. I shall be bringing Aaron Burr's musket. May my aim be as true as his was on July 11, 1804.
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On August 17 2010 01:24 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:16 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:12 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 01:05 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. To be fair, it seemed he was referring more to the whole idea of "making out with random guys while drunk and sleeping together", although he was pretty ambiguous either way. I think the main argument lies with the sleeping together part. Of course, I could be wrong and it could lie down with multiple issues. He also said he could care less if they had sex or not. For all he knows, the girl went home to watch a movie and snuggle with the dude, and that would be just as bad as sloppy drunk sex in his mind. On August 17 2010 01:07 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. And that confirms it Dunno bout you guys, but I'm not friends with people who pass judgment on me like that, especially when they don't even know what happened! So you will be okay if your girlfriend went to a club, got drunk, and made out with random dudes. Nice Allow me to make this a tad bit more simple for you: Talent: It is deplorable that a girl in a relationship would get drunk and make out with dudes. It is also deplorable for a single girl to do the same Hawk: Way to pass judgement on your single friend, broski. Talent: *poops on keyboard, types without thinking/reading* (<-----you are here)
Ok, let's get the point of views clear. Here is how I interpret Talent's problem:
I would be extremely angry and unforgiving if my girlfriend is to flirt in any type of way with another guy (even if she’s drunk and unintentional). The reason why I mention “drunk” is because...yes it is very common for people to go clubbing and partying these days, and they drink and get drunk and have fun, fine. And consequently things happen without expectation or whatnot. I’ve heard of stories where a boyfriend is willing to forgive a girlfriend (vice-versa) if one of them got drunk at a club and made out/had sex unintentionally with another individual. Call me unforgiving and selfish, but I would never, under any circumstances, forgive something like that.
It seems to me he would be angry if a girlfriend/boyfriend were to show signs of unfaithfulness in flirting, which I'm assuming would include kissing. So yes, he would get angry at a partner for making out.
All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!!
It seems to me in this part of the post that he's angry about the fact that she got drunk and made the wrong decisions, making it clear that whatever decision it was, he is against it because of the drunk factor.
You know what, to some degree, I would let out some form of sympathy for people who make the wrong decisions under the influence of alcohol. But goddamn he had NO REMORSE whatsoever, and starts bragging about losing his virginity to some girl who he doesn’t give a slightest shit about and might never see her again (really, I need to find some other friends).
So it seems that he hates the fact that his friend carelessly went ahead and lost his virginity sleeping with another girl with NO REMORSE as he clearly puts it.
And now I fear that this trend is too common in society today, and slowly I’ve lose interest and faith in developing romantic interests. I have been involved in and seen a lot of people who say “I love you” and “let’s be together forever” in so many relationships, and I fear that the word “love” has really lost its meaning. Fortunately, thinking back, every “I love you” out of my lips have been true from my heart, and needlessly to say I’m very proud of myself for being so dedicated (my dad would always say that as a man I should always take responsibilities for my promises and actions, and I’m happy that I’ve been able to accomplish that). And conversely, it is hard to find a girl nowadays who would do the same for me. Mind you, I’m going to be picky and be really careful in choosing my future girlfriend, because I would really like the relationship to last and be able to wake up every day to her knowing that I can trust her one hundred percent.
Overall, it seems like his issue lies with faithfulness between a man and a woman and protecting the sanctity of that trust. Implicitly, I'm thinking this includes voicing out against people not in relationships that try making or out having sex with others without regard to keeping a serious relationship because those things SHOULD be kept within a relationship.
Am I right?
Editted with a few parts clarified.
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If you can't take criticism then don't self reflect in a public blog, talk to a friend or something.
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On August 17 2010 01:36 ilovezil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:24 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 01:16 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:12 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 01:05 ilovezil wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. To be fair, it seemed he was referring more to the whole idea of "making out with random guys while drunk and sleeping together", although he was pretty ambiguous either way. I think the main argument lies with the sleeping together part. Of course, I could be wrong and it could lie down with multiple issues. He also said he could care less if they had sex or not. For all he knows, the girl went home to watch a movie and snuggle with the dude, and that would be just as bad as sloppy drunk sex in his mind. On August 17 2010 01:07 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:03 Talent.L wrote: All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!! To make it worse she did it AGAIN just two nights ago at a different club, probably intentionally. She starts to complain about how the second guy is not as cute as the first, and told me it was all part of the “experience” (thank God she doesn’t have a boyfriend). At that point in time I’ve lost all respect for her; I told her that if it wasn’t for our friendship, I would despise her so much, which is very true because I really dislike people like this.
Odd, that seems to be your name and your writing here. I've bolded some parts for emphasis, in case your own writing confuses you. Im just emphasizing on the fact that it's unacceptable for a girl with a bf to do that, but a single girl i guess i'm against the majority or whatever. And that confirms it Dunno bout you guys, but I'm not friends with people who pass judgment on me like that, especially when they don't even know what happened! So you will be okay if your girlfriend went to a club, got drunk, and made out with random dudes. Nice Allow me to make this a tad bit more simple for you: Talent: It is deplorable that a girl in a relationship would get drunk and make out with dudes. It is also deplorable for a single girl to do the same Hawk: Way to pass judgement on your single friend, broski. Talent: *poops on keyboard, types without thinking/reading* (<-----you are here) Ok, let's get the point of views clear. Here is how I interpret Talent's problem: Show nested quote +
I would be extremely angry and unforgiving if my girlfriend is to flirt in any type of way with another guy (even if she’s drunk and unintentional). The reason why I mention “drunk” is because...yes it is very common for people to go clubbing and partying these days, and they drink and get drunk and have fun, fine. And consequently things happen without expectation or whatnot. I’ve heard of stories where a boyfriend is willing to forgive a girlfriend (vice-versa) if one of them got drunk at a club and made out/had sex unintentionally with another individual. Call me unforgiving and selfish, but I would never, under any circumstances, forgive something like that.
It seems to me he would be angry if a girlfriend/boyfriend were to show signs of unfaithfulness in flirting, which I'm assuming would include kissing. So yes, he would get angry at a partner for making out. Show nested quote + All of this got me thinking when a female friend of mine went to a club and deliberately made out with random guys while drunk and slept together or whatnot. I don’t know if they had sex or not, and I couldn’t care less. I’ve known her for 4 years and I swear to God that I DID NOT KNOW THIS SIDE OF HER WTF!!
It seems to me in this part of the post that he's angry about the fact that she got drunk and made the wrong decisions, making it clear that whatever decision it was, he is against it because of the drunk factor. Show nested quote + You know what, to some degree, I would let out some form of sympathy for people who make the wrong decisions under the influence of alcohol. But goddamn he had NO REMORSE whatsoever, and starts bragging about losing his virginity to some girl who he doesn’t give a slightest shit about and might never see her again (really, I need to find some other friends).
So it seems that he hates the fact that his friend carelessly went ahead and lost his virginity sleeping with another girl with NO REMORSE as he clearly puts it. Show nested quote + And now I fear that this trend is too common in society today, and slowly I’ve lose interest and faith in developing romantic interests. I have been involved in and seen a lot of people who say “I love you” and “let’s be together forever” in so many relationships, and I fear that the word “love” has really lost its meaning. Fortunately, thinking back, every “I love you” out of my lips have been true from my heart, and needlessly to say I’m very proud of myself for being so dedicated (my dad would always say that as a man I should always take responsibilities for my promises and actions, and I’m happy that I’ve been able to accomplish that). And conversely, it is hard to find a girl nowadays who would do the same for me. Mind you, I’m going to be picky and be really careful in choosing my future girlfriend, because I would really like the relationship to last and be able to wake up every day to her knowing that I can trust her one hundred percent.
Overall, it seems like his issue lies with faithfulness between a man and a woman and protecting the sanctity of that trust. Am I right?
Thanks, you put it all in perspective
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On August 17 2010 01:36 zenMaster wrote: If you can't take criticism then don't self reflect in a public blog, talk to a friend or something.
man...have you been reading my posts lol
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I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex.
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On August 17 2010 01:40 Talent.L wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:36 zenMaster wrote: If you can't take criticism then don't self reflect in a public blog, talk to a friend or something. man...have you been reading my posts lol
Did you read my edit? I expanded a little on that.
You should make your thoughts clear by summing it up or, I hate to say this, but writing more articulately so people don't get confused by what's going on.
And Hawk, you should address all parts of his issues if you're going to argue. Don't single out specific parts conveniently when you should know to take them on as a whole.
Then again, I've been singling out the parts for lack of clarity myself. Hey, this is why I work for less than minimum wage, what do you expect?
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On August 17 2010 01:42 FabledIntegral wrote: I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex.
yeah you are right. I'm in year 1 and...not much partying for me because i was studying hard 8) so i wouldn't know things like that i guess :O
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This thread got intense, thanks hawk!
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On August 17 2010 01:44 Talent.L wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:42 FabledIntegral wrote: I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex. yeah you are right. I'm in year 1 and...not much partying for me because i was studying hard 8) so i wouldn't know things like that i guess :O
Honestly most girls I know are considered prude if all they've done is make out before - and that's even if they've made out with ~10+ guys. Almost every girl I know has made out with at least ~15 guys before, and one of those girls just lost her virginity to one of my good friends (also was a virgin) at age 20 (him 21). Although, she gave her first bj at like 14 or 15 haha.
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On August 17 2010 01:44 Talent.L wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:42 FabledIntegral wrote: I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex. yeah you are right. I'm in year 1 and...not much partying for me because i was studying hard 8) so i wouldn't know things like that i guess :O
You need to get laid, and I say it with all sincerity. Think of it more like a physical experience. It'll make you less uptight about your archaic beliefs.
Not to sound mean or anything, but I feel you are having problem finding a mate, and ergo attribute your lack of sexual success to your rigid belief system...?
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You should expect certain things from friends, like respect and support, but in turn, you need to be tolerant of certain aspects in a friendship. Sex is definitely one of them. There are so many variations that in the end it becomes an individual thing. If you think you've reached a certain maturity, congrats to you. Have faith that your friends will catch up, instead of despairing over their wicked ways. A little dramatic, I know. Take responsibility for your time, make sure you're doing your best in School, and maybe get a part time job if things are too easy. Either way, the sexual liberation has been around for a good 50 years and it's not changing anytime soon.
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P.S. I lost my virginity not to a complete stranger, but to someone I had absolutely no feelings for, and I don't regret it at all. It's not even a slightly life-altering experience. I felt slightly different after my first kiss. I didn't feel anything after the sex.
I honestly don't even feel like it's that much different, if different at all, with a gf than a random person.
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On August 17 2010 01:48 Emon_ wrote: You should expect respect and support from your friends, but in turn, you need to be tolerant of certain aspects in a friendship. Sex is definitely one of them. There are so many variations that in the end it becomes an individual thing. If you think you've reach a certain maturity, congrats to you. Have faith that your friends will catch up, instead of despairing over their wicked ways. A little dramatic, I know. Take responsibility for your time, make sure you're doing your best in School, and maybe get a part time job if things are too easy. Either way, the sexual liberation has been around for a good 50 years and it's not changing anytime soon.
yeah i'll stop judging from now on I guess we all have our own ways and i'll continue to believe in faithfulness and disregard the rest.
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On August 17 2010 01:48 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:44 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:42 FabledIntegral wrote: I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex. yeah you are right. I'm in year 1 and...not much partying for me because i was studying hard 8) so i wouldn't know things like that i guess :O You need to get laid, and I say it with all sincerity. Think of it more like a physical experience. It'll make you less uptight about your archaic beliefs.
What's funny is that the whole issue with keeping your virginity for a special time like marriage or finding the absolute right person is that if you do lose it before then, you won't ever find out if you were right or wrong. On the flip side, if you do keep it for the right person, you probably won't know what you're doing right or wrong, so an otherwise better situation with some experience would possibly turn out to be a horrible time. Then again, I could just be plain wrong in the latter case.
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On August 17 2010 01:50 FabledIntegral wrote: P.S. I lost my virginity not to a complete stranger, but to someone I had absolutely no feelings for, and I don't regret it at all. It's not even a slightly life-altering experience. I felt slightly different after my first kiss. I didn't feel anything after the sex.
I honestly don't even feel like it's that much different, if different at all, with a gf than a random person.
seriously? :o i used to know a friend of mine who um...saves her first kiss for the guy she really likes...a bit more extreme than losing virginity lol, but I could see where she was coming from tho because im pretty soft when it comes to these things XD
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On August 17 2010 00:49 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 00:20 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 00:17 Hawk wrote: Do you ask potential dates to prove that their hymen isn't broken yet?? Jesus. I think you should be more judgemental.
You must be a real winner to shit on your friend who kissed a dude at a club. She's impure now dude.
You're going to be severely disappointed when you find that not many people share your hilariously romanticized beliefs. man what's your problem? I'm just presenting my point of view on things. Calm down. Don't worry, I'm severely disappointed enough, and I don't really find my morals to be hilariously funny. And I'm presenting mine: Anyone who would look down on a single friend because she kissed a dude at a club is a judgmental asshole. It's a goddamn kiss. It's not like she picked up eight random dudes for some bukkake fun out in the alley behind the club. Yet you told her that if you were not already friends, you'd hate her. Real cool bro. Are you implying that we shouldn't judge a person plagiarizing a single paragraph, but when he or she plagiarized a page we should take action? Everyone has a different "line" Clearly OP's line is much lighter in degrees of severity than yours. No need to call each other judgmental.
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On August 17 2010 01:55 ilovezil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 01:48 Cambium wrote:On August 17 2010 01:44 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 01:42 FabledIntegral wrote: I take it you're still in high school and haven't been exposed to the college scene of everyone making out with everyone?
There's a massive difference between a girl cheating on her bf (I would consider even just pecks on the lips cheating) and a girl deciding to make out with different guys while drunk. Some of the most innocent girls I know have had a night where they go out and make out with 2, or even 3 guys in a night, yet I know they've never even been felt up before, let alone given a bj or had sex. yeah you are right. I'm in year 1 and...not much partying for me because i was studying hard 8) so i wouldn't know things like that i guess :O You need to get laid, and I say it with all sincerity. Think of it more like a physical experience. It'll make you less uptight about your archaic beliefs. What's funny is that the whole issue with keeping your virginity for a special time like marriage or finding the absolute right person is that if you do lose it before then, you won't ever find out if you were right or wrong. On the flip side, if you do keep it for the right person, you probably won't know what you're doing right or wrong, so an otherwise better situation with some experience would possibly turn out to be a horrible time. Then again, I could just be plain wrong in the latter case.
I'm a little drunk, so I didn't really get that. But, the problem I see with keeping your virginity for the right person is that, what if the sex is absolutely horrible? Is that person still "right" for you? You basically only have one chance to find this right person, both emotionally and physically, and that's pretty unlikely, realistically speaking.
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On August 17 2010 01:55 nosliw wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 00:49 Hawk wrote:On August 17 2010 00:20 Talent.L wrote:On August 17 2010 00:17 Hawk wrote: Do you ask potential dates to prove that their hymen isn't broken yet?? Jesus. I think you should be more judgemental.
You must be a real winner to shit on your friend who kissed a dude at a club. She's impure now dude.
You're going to be severely disappointed when you find that not many people share your hilariously romanticized beliefs. man what's your problem? I'm just presenting my point of view on things. Calm down. Don't worry, I'm severely disappointed enough, and I don't really find my morals to be hilariously funny. And I'm presenting mine: Anyone who would look down on a single friend because she kissed a dude at a club is a judgmental asshole. It's a goddamn kiss. It's not like she picked up eight random dudes for some bukkake fun out in the alley behind the club. Yet you told her that if you were not already friends, you'd hate her. Real cool bro. Are you implying that we shouldn't judge a person plagiarizing a single paragraph, but when he or she plagiarized a page we should take action? Everyone has a different "line" Clearly OP's line is much lighter in degrees of severity than yours. No need to call each other judgmental.
You may want to reconsider that analogy. That analogy, I'm assuming, implies whatever degree of plagiarism is bad regardless of amount, but your latter statement is comparing where the "line" can be drawn relative to each person's standards.
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