On July 22 2010 20:06 Doraemon wrote: why didnt you just play standard,,,,
Every time someone's favorite player loses, someone says "why didn't he just play standard?"
Look: 1) Carriers are standard on PR, and often in TvP as well. 2) You can't just "play standard" and win. What does that even mean? If a player "played standard" all the time, then they wouldn't win a single game, because they'd get sniped each and every game. The best players, like Flash, fantasy, Jaedong, EffOrt, and yes, Bisu, are the best players in no small part because they are very good at knowing how to play against their opponents and the map, and not just "standard". B-teamers know how to play standard. A-teamers know how to win.
There's only one instance where this criticism is valid, and it's when a player takes an unnecessary risk on a map they should win. If a T goes BBS on a map that's hugely T>P favored, and loses with it, then yeah, question it. But when a Bisu goes carriers on a fantastic carrier map, and loses the lead through his own fault and his opponent's smart play, then it has nothing to do with being "standard" or not, it has something to do with being outplayed.
On July 22 2010 20:03 purpose wrote: Seemed like Bisu was to hot to push down on Seas turret line. Sea could just sit there and defend and mass up golis.
Was it seas positioning that was great, or was Bisu just playing really really bad?
It was more just the fact that Bisu played exactly how Sea wanted him to, suiciding his army into that huge barricade of tanks, depots, mines, turrets, and goliaths.
It really attests to the carrier imba on this map that Bisu actually came close to breaking through -_-
Yea you're right, any map where carriers stand a chance against goliaths is imbalanced. Everyone knows that in most situations goliaths out-gay the carriers.
Your third "goliaths are imba" post in this thread....stop talking rubbish
Looking forward to fantasy hyuking himself :D
Your first self-righteous post in this thread...stop pretending to be a moderator
Looking forward to a day when users with Terran icons will realize that I am just answering their carrier complains :D
Fantasy sending 3 marines forwards - risky - but there's no OL to pick off
4 lings out chasing the scouting scv - 2 hits so far 2 more from the nat - the SCV sees the lair go up on the way out - haha Fantasy turns it around and gets back into the main! finally the scv is killed
pretty early ebay! Academy started, bunker being added at Fantasy's nat
On July 22 2010 20:06 Doraemon wrote: why didnt you just play standard,,,,
Every time someone's favorite player loses, someone says "why didn't he just play standard?"
Look: 1) Carriers are standard on PR, and often in TvP as well. 2) You can't just "play standard" and win. What does that even mean? If a player "played standard" all the time, then they wouldn't win a single game, because they'd get sniped each and every game. The best players, like Flash, fantasy, Jaedong, EffOrt, and yes, Bisu, are the best players in no small part because they are very good at knowing how to play against their opponents and the map, and not just "standard". B-teamers know how to play standard. A-teamers know how to win.
There's only one instance where this criticism is valid, and it's when a player takes an unnecessary risk on a map they should win. If a T goes BBS on a map that's hugely T>P favored, and loses with it, then yeah, question it. But when a Bisu goes carriers on a fantastic carrier map, and loses the lead through his own fault and his opponent's smart play, then it has nothing to do with being "standard" or not, it has something to do with being outplayed.
Well, Bisu in general is pretty bad with Carriers compared to his Arbiter play, and has the capability to do amazing things with an Arbiter/ground army composition on maps that were considered T-imba unless you went Carriers (Katrina anyone?). Unless he can really come to understand how to use Carriers, I think he should stay far away from them..