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Moutas
Greece158 Posts
Neo Steppes of War v3: ![[image loading]](http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7339/neosteppesofwarv3.jpg) Neo Steppes of War v2: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1191/neosteppesofwarv2.jpg) Neo Steppes of War v1: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8013/neosteppesofwar.jpg) The nat and 3rd have switched places in order to create a longer path between mains. I have also increased the size of the middle lane added two additional side lanes which players can use to flank or counter-attack. Let me know what you think  Update for v2: New natural expo design & modified middle. | ||
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AssuredVacancy
United States1167 Posts
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drag_
England425 Posts
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HCastorp
United States388 Posts
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On June 09 2010 03:02 Endorsed wrote: Maybe to make mech less imba on this map. What about having no High Ground in the bases? High ground isnt an advantage.. this aint SC:BW with a miss rating. | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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FortuneSyn
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
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fantomex
United States313 Posts
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Skaff
United States240 Posts
On June 09 2010 03:04 PaD wrote: High ground isnt an advantage.. this aint SC:BW with a miss rating. Correction, it's not as much of an advantage like it was in BW. The loss of sight counts for a small amount at least! | ||
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
Pretty though | ||
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
looks like the real thing but it's completely different and no balance consideration is taken. Interesting idea, i guess alot of biggamehunters' fans will play it, but without some improvements it will not be a good competitive map | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On June 09 2010 05:35 rockon1215 wrote: shortening the rush distance kinds ruins what made steppes of war, steppes of war, Pretty though Really? Cuz i feel like the rush distance from nat to nat will always be short and Steppes could benefit from being longer vertically. I don't see how mech would be any better on this map compared to how it already is on steppes. Simple change but I think its cool | ||
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Slunk
Germany768 Posts
I actually really like this map. The longer distance and the base layout reminds me a little of HeartBreakRidge that is my absolutely all time favourite BW map. To be honest, this version of SoW makes it even harder for mech to hold in the earlier stages due to the fact that you have two entrances to cover when you take your natural. On the other hand, as a protoss player you can no longer FFE versus zerg, that really would cut into my PvZ, so maybe you should consider some rocks on either one of those ramps. In general I think your version is pretty good, but I also have the opinion that SoW is one of the maps (along with LT and BS) in the mappack that needed the overhaul the least. So, the next time you should maybe try to improve Maps like Kulas or Incineration Zone. | ||
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Anon06
United States203 Posts
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Ovi
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Moutas
Greece158 Posts
The reason mech was preferred by Terran players is because SoW didn't offer many flanking opportunities. Also, the distance between nat and the middle was extremely small, so you could push out and immediately threaten the opponent's nat. I believe that this version allows players to set up some good flanks and possibly counter a fortified position by using the side paths. As for a Terran easily getting and defending 3 bases, the ramp leading from the 3rd to the middle is much wider than the original ramp (from nat to middle). Also, the distance from this ramp to the nat ramp leading towards the gold expo has been doubled. This was done so that the attacker can catch the opponent out of position, which was nearly impossible to do before. A defender running from nat to 3rd in the original version was much easier compared to this. The gold expansions are much harder to defend simply because they're in a much wider area compared to the original version of SoW. I plan on modifying other maps as well. At the moment I will just work on one map at a time. Next project will be Incineration Zone, as that map was pure crap for Zergs | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
Slunk suggested rocks on one of the ramps, but I don't think that would cut it. Maybe if you shrunk the natural a bit by getting rid of all that space above the geyser on the left and below the geyser on the right, and made it impossible for stuff to get into the main by going behind the mineral line... | ||
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Moutas
Greece158 Posts
On June 09 2010 08:13 Kyadytim wrote: I kind of like it, except that you totally killed Protoss 10 gate openings against Zerg on this map, what with the giant, wide open natural with 2 entrances. Slunk suggested rocks on one of the ramps, but I don't think that would cut it. Maybe if you shrunk the natural a bit by getting rid of all that space above the geyser on the left and below the geyser on the right, and made it impossible for stuff to get into the main by going behind the mineral line... Yeah I realize this is a problem so the nat will be redesigned to allow Protoss to FE against Zerg. I am also thinking about placing some water in the middle to give some cover against a 360 degree flank. | ||
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