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On March 14 2010 16:28 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2010 16:25 L wrote:On March 14 2010 16:23 Incognito wrote:On March 14 2010 16:21 L wrote:
Yeah BC's pretty legit. Sarcasm much? Nope. Why do you think the mafia are offing that list though? Seems like a bad idea unless they know all of these people are inno? Otherwise they're just exposing themselves.
Low activity posters that aren't mafia are often blue. Vivi and Fulgrim posted very little during the first day and didn't really try to make themselves the center of attention.
If mafia has a role they want dead right now, its the medic and bus driver. Once one of those are dead, they can start chopping away at the BG block and kill our DT. After the DT/medic die, the mafia 'clock' stops ticking, because the amount of confirmed townies stops growing and the chance that goons get outed starts going up. Given the low kp/round, the game is likely to go on for a while, which means that the effects of the medic, driver and DT are incredibly amplified.
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Vivi and Fulgrim are also more important than me.
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On March 14 2010 16:18 Bill Murray wrote:Can you center things? I'm going to try. Reasons why I'm the town miller.
If you're the Town Miller:
1) you think you are green. (check) <- I wish you could literally check a box nike style.
2) you end up black.
3) the mod says so.
Firstly, I literally believe I am green. I got a green colored PM when the mod sent me a "your role". "you are a townie" god damn. I'm a fucking townie. this sucks shit. why did I have to blow it when I was something cool like a detective? IDK. I guess I'm a fuckup. Story of my life.
If I'm black, I kind of sort of account for it because it's one of the only possibilities of being a townie. I guess it gives it spice. "oh, i hope i'm not the miller. What if I get elected and they think I'm red? that will sure be fun trying to convince them that the mafia would only put forth their godfather............................ real fun.
I like close games.
I also like raping rivals......
whatever, though, glad i'm alive.
I've been drinking. That's why I'd be perfect if I'm black. Lynch me you guys. I don't care. I really don't. It will be better to lynch someone like me than to lynch a fuckin' medic. Keep them and the detectives alive, win this for me. I really want a town win here. If the town doesn't win, I'm going to drink so much that I'll throw up (i promise).
That being said, L, maybe you can find a way to hurt me more than having me lynched day 1. Win it for your mafia (if you're red; assuming you're red) . Let's end this stupid feud becaude I'll admit I can't keep up with you. You win. I'm sorry I killed you, I thought you were red, and I like to win. It was the worst decision I've made in mafai, including breaking the rules, or leaving a typo on purpose to prove a point. I like you, you are one of my favorite people, and I would have voted for you.
If flamewheel only knew........ I would be the perfect black. I am probably green.... 1/15 or 2/15 likely... what's that... hmmmmm 7.5? 5% 6%-13% likely. I just used a calculator in mafia, that's how much I care about this town. What i was trying to say in my prior paragraph is this: let's assume that the mod decided what roles we would be........... who would be better suited as the miller besides me? and before you all are like WTF red? let's think..... would the mafia let me post this? they wouldn't.
Bill, you were actually a Miller last game (nobody checked you though).
Except when Incognito wrote up the death post he forgot and you were just a townie.
Just thought that would be interesting...
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On March 14 2010 16:40 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2010 16:28 Incognito wrote:On March 14 2010 16:25 L wrote:On March 14 2010 16:23 Incognito wrote:On March 14 2010 16:21 L wrote:
Yeah BC's pretty legit. Sarcasm much? Nope. Why do you think the mafia are offing that list though? Seems like a bad idea unless they know all of these people are inno? Otherwise they're just exposing themselves. Low activity posters that aren't mafia are often blue. Vivi and Fulgrim posted very little during the first day and didn't really try to make themselves the center of attention. If mafia has a role they want dead right now, its the medic and bus driver. Once one of those are dead, they can start chopping away at the BG block and kill our DT. After the DT/medic die, the mafia 'clock' stops ticking, because the amount of confirmed townies stops growing and the chance that goons get outed starts going up. Given the low kp/round, the game is likely to go on for a while, which means that the effects of the medic, driver and DT are incredibly amplified.
Hmm ok makes sense. Though wouldn't it be easier to just burn through the BGs? Because if even if mafia hits both the driver and medic in one night, they still take 2 full nights to be able to access the elected officials. And I find that highly implausible. Burning through BGs would take 2 days with medics. Maybe one more if the driver intervenes.
But hey I've just noticed, Zona and Cynan. Traditionally, BGs have tried to hide under the radar in order to avoid being killed and exposing the officers. However, this game has the BGs out in the open. Given that BGs are only taken out of the green townies and non-GF mafia, there is no reason for you not to post. You do not need to hide because you are not blue. Mafia will probably want to kill you anyway, so you might as well make yourselves useful while you're here. You're already out in the open, so no reason to hide.
Yes, having the BGs posting more and being more pro-town might make the mafia want to hit them more, but hey, all you townies should be posting more. But only townies. If you are mafia, we don't need to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
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I find the kills of Vivi and Fulgrim somewhat interesting. Vivi, I can understand. He's generally a decent player and good at finding mafia, but Fulgrim? The dude posts damn near nothing of importance and I didn't see any real contributions he made for the town. Why'd you go after him mafia?
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I also find it interesting that none of the BGs were targeted. If I were mafia I would want the mayor/pardoner dead super-fast (acknowledging their inherent abilities as solid mafia players and, oh yeah, the mayor is supposedly a DT) and I'd be making sure the BGs didn't survive to see the next day... Guess it's a good thing I'm not mafia though, right? 
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On March 14 2010 16:19 Incognito wrote:
BloodyC0bbler:
Vivi57
tree.hugger
Incognito
Zona
Fulgrim
Iaaan
johnnyspazz
CynanMachae
Did anyone else notice this?
Also, vivi is the one to initially role-claim for BC.
That said, I can see info this going either way at this point (attempt to discredit Bc vs. eliminating people with sensitive pm information). Thus far BC mostly made sense. Hopefully he can prove himself as the DT so we can remove any doubt.
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I'm not too sure what to make of those hits I was expecting L or possibly the bodyguards to be targetted so as far as I can see it, either one of the elected officials as well as L is mafia or the town was successful in stopping the mafia from trying to hit them by use of medics, emphasising in the thread to protect the BG's and L being a quite likely person to protect as well.
Is there any reason that the town officials have not roleclaimed at this point? This is when we need to establish the elected as being town and try to co-ordinate things through them, why have there been no roleclaims from the elected as well as stating that they have been checked (if they have, which I thought was a key part of the strategy this game, getting elected officials that can be 100//99% trusted)?
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On March 14 2010 12:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Xelin/malongo are two on my list atm for lack of decent posting.
I don't get where you are coming from at all, if you think I'm red then check me but it would be a waste, and please explain what exactly what you mean, if i'm going to be accused I would rather have something I can actually respond with.
Currently you might as well have said "xelin, for a sweeping generalisation with no explanation"
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On March 14 2010 13:44 madnessman wrote:I have a question. Mafia KNOWS L is a confirmed blue role. And yet they don't kill him. Does nobody else find this odd? Show nested quote +On March 14 2010 04:59 L wrote:On March 14 2010 04:47 Iaaan wrote:
I am disappointed that jeejee died, even if I can see how his vote switching was suspicious.
Definitely going to be interesting to go back and look at his posts, I remember that he was very persistent at calling people out. Don't see how you can be disappointed that a green who actively tried to fuck with the town is gone via the day 1 lynch. This was probably one of the best day 1 lynches in history. Just because people don't want you in a mayoral position... How does them make them trying to "fuck" with town? How can they be fucking with the town if we don't even know for certain that you're blue? Maybe you're mafia and they're actually doing the town a favor? It's pompous posts like this that caused me to change my vote. And to those questioning my voting patterns... We have three of the most experienced players ALL RUNNING FOR MAYOR AND ALL CLAIMING BLUE. How can I vote with absolute certainty and without any qualms whatsoever when this is quite suspicious, and I am filled with uncertainty and suspecting that one of them might be lying..but don't know which one?
First thing to do is jump and pin L? Mafia ploy to insight riot against L bust not killing L?!
Fuck it, lynch him, LETS GO!
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So wait...
Detective L, Detective Cobbler...Who did each of you search....
Gonna grace us with that knowledge?
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It's possible the mafia felt L would be medic protected.
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On March 15 2010 01:07 Bill Murray wrote:
It's possible the mafia felt L would be medic protected.
That's part of what is hard to comprehend: now the medics have bodyguards to protect, and possibly other blues/active people. Yet L is still shifty, refusing to claim anything and content to just hit back at whoever accuses him. How does this make sense if he is affraid of being a mafia target and the medics are busy? How about this weird "trade" offer he makes to me:
On March 14 2010 14:44 L wrote:
Citi.zen, if you feel so strongly about killing me, how's about we kill bill murray today and if I'm wrong, you kill me tomorrow.
Sounds like everyone wins.
L keeps bringing up the bus-driver - hinting that perhaps that is his role. This is the description of the bus driver from page 1:
Bus Driver
Twice per game, you get to switch the actions on two players. For example, if the Bus Driver switches A and B, where A and B are players, and A is killed and B is role checked, A will be role checked and B will be killed instead. A Bus Drivers' alignment is ambiguous. That means they can be town-aligned, mafia-aligned, neither, or both.
Read the last part again: town-aligned, mafia-aligned, neither, or both.
Question for flamewheel: is the bus-driver gets role-checked, is his alignment revealed, or just the role? Does the driver have free-choice of alignment?
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On March 14 2010 14:44 L wrote:
Citi.zen, if you feel so strongly about killing me, how's about we kill bill murray today and if I'm wrong, you kill me tomorrow.
Sounds like everyone wins.
useless, BM being green doesn't make you red, you just don't like eachother. No one will actually try to get you lynched for BM being green.
BC, are you going to say what your night actions were?
Incognito, are you going to roleclaim?
L, Are you going to respond to Zona's post asking why you have told the mafia you are blue, but haven't told the town your role?
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Question for flamewheel: is the bus-driver gets role-checked, is his alignment revealed, or just the role? Does the driver have free-choice of alignment?
Alignments were assigned this game.
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... and Bus driver will always show blue in role-checks, regardless of alignment, correct?
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On March 15 2010 01:07 Bill Murray wrote:
It's possible the mafia felt L would be medic protected.
More like L knew he was going to be bus driven because we even made it clear in the thread that we had the driver claim to us. As for tomorrow night, I have no idea, I'd rather the driver save his drivin' juice and have the medic focused on the BGs. If the mafia kill me, they'll be proving me legit, which will make a lot of the zero content L-haters on mafia look bad.
Either way, the best target for killing tonight is still bill murray. One does not simply walk into vote swings.
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More nonsense.
For clarity L: you are saying you are NOT the bus driver, right? And not green, and not the DT?
Also, the unconfirmable/uncheckable bus driver claimed to you and protected you night one? Why would they TELL you, when you are acting so irrationally? And where did you explicitly say this in the thread, to deter the mafia L?
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