EPTMSL Finals predictions by commentators - Page 2
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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stambe
Bulgaria490 Posts
On January 21 2010 17:51 Phrogs! wrote: Wow, that's an eye-opener, I didn't realize. Still hoping for the best finals of all time! Both jaedong and flash said in an interview that player's skill is much more relevant to wining than a map statistic. Add to the fact that some of the maps have a very low game pool and it's a Bo5 where mind games rule your world as Julyzerg him self said after his Golden Mouse win. With jaedong and flash it's one mistake and it's all over so anything can happen. Still Flash with his incredible form as of late looks to be the favorite but dont count JD out. Hoping for a great games and someone crying again(from joy i mean) :D | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 21 2010 18:04 IdrA wrote: ultimatum and oddeye are 3-3, 2-2 tvz if you take out flash's games. dont quote statistics off a sample of 8 fucking games. Yeah there's so much talking here about not taking little sample sizes and now ppl are talking about imba with maps that were played only a few times QQ Plus Match Point seems to be kinda "cursed" map for Flash  | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
edit: But I wouldn't blame too much on the map imbalances if Flash ends up winning anyway. I mean, Flash did end up winning the OSL Finals on Protoss maps. | ||
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spoolinoveryou
United States503 Posts
On January 21 2010 18:04 IdrA wrote: ultimatum and oddeye are 3-3, 2-2 tvz if you take out flash's games. dont quote statistics off a sample of 8 fucking games. agreed. it's flash vs jaedong here.. if the map was IMBA i'm sure they can work around it. sheeeesh. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On January 21 2010 18:04 IdrA wrote: ultimatum and oddeye are 3-3, 2-2 tvz if you take out flash's games. dont quote statistics off a sample of 8 fucking games. This basically. I don't think map balance will be an issue between these two. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
 Jaedong victory. I believe![[image loading]](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/motbob/33ykvbd.png) ![[image loading]](http://i34.tinypic.com/33ykvbd.jpg) | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
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oxidized
United States324 Posts
On January 21 2010 17:13 motbob wrote: To put this in perspective:Once you remove Flash's TvZ games from those win percentages, you get: Match Point: 72.7% Ultimatum: 50% Odd-Eye: 50% Fighting Spirit: 43.7% Match point is the only one that's still has a shitty record without Flash's games (because he's done the worst on that map). It's a moot point thought because the sample sizes are too low too mean anything for most of those maps. edit: beaten by idra: On January 21 2010 18:04 IdrA wrote: ultimatum and oddeye are 3-3, 2-2 tvz if you take out flash's games. dont quote statistics off a sample of 8 fucking games. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
BUT, this is Flash we're talking about. I haven't seen a player on such a rampage since Savior. Then again, this is Jaedong. In hardcore rage-mode after their OSL meeting. Of course, Flash is the best Terran, and a victory here will cement his legacy. Well, Jaedong is the best Zerg, and a win here will consolidate his position of the greatest Zerg of all times. Naturally, Flash's TvZ is arguably even better than oov's at his prime, so if anyone can do this, he can. Seriously though, Jaedong has the strongest ZvT, and the most dominant since Yellow. *head explodes due to awesome* | ||
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
honestly they are decent, and nowhere near as bad as the disaster that was Tiamat LOLOLOL god that map was shit old school Col was great though haha oh JD don't try some stupid cheese this time | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On January 21 2010 17:13 motbob wrote: Nice, listing percentages without sample size, or any consideration of who played the games. I watched most of these games live, so, as an example: Match Point Flash > Kwanro, nothing wrong with this result Baby > Hyun, interesting result but not egregious, two inconsistent players with high potential. Baby went mech and Hyun played pretty brain-dead Kwanro > Light, ling all in Zero > Flash, great build and great play by Zero Light > hero, Muta/Guardian all-in by hero, he knocks Light back to just one base and can't finish the job, blown game by hero Hyun > Flash, amazing game Shine > Special, better player won Iris > hyvaa, I don't remember this game too well but I believe Iris pulled a nice comeback Flash > Saint, hidden Lurker all in failed hero > Canata, don't remember this game fantasy > Calm, long game in which Calm played poorly after getting a huge lead Hwasin > Shine, don't remember this fantasy > Hoejja, solid play by fantasy with a great Wraith switch and a Nuke Ruby > juni Ruby > shark, nothing wrong with either of these results That's just one map, but if you look at the game lists (and watch the games) for pretty much each of these maps, none of them is egregious. Slight edge to Terran? Probably. But those statistics you listed are terribly misleading and just plain unhelpful. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1395 Posts
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PrideNeverDies
Kazakhstan74 Posts
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stambe
Bulgaria490 Posts
On January 21 2010 20:33 konadora wrote: Tiamat was a fucking joke lol I dont know why Tiamat get such a hate tbh. I mean it's not a balanced map, but it's aesthetically beautiful map and i've played awesome games on ICCup when they still had it in the maphack. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On January 21 2010 17:45 MuffinDude wrote: Wow. Never knew the maps were this imba. O_O | ||
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