we are so fucking close to jd vs flash finals omfg

something will fuck up though like jd will get swine flu somehow and break his hand at the same time

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

January 15 2010 02:16 GMT

#87

this is gonna be a great series, as terrifying as jaedong is, Kal is certainly on the same level against Zerg

it'll be interested to see what they've prepared... the thought that goes into preparing for this matchup will be the deciding factor given the similar skill levels in these two's respective matchups

Gumbo

Canada807 Posts

January 15 2010 02:29 GMT

#88

On January 15 2010 11:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
this is gonna be a great series, as terrifying as jaedong is, Kal is certainly on the same level against Zerg

I do agree that Kal has its chances, but you're saying hes on the same level in PvZ as Jaedong is in ZvP?

I totally disagree.

Lebesgue

4542 Posts

January 15 2010 02:30 GMT

#89

I expect 3:1 from Jaedong. But we will see. Will definitely want to catch that series live. Hopefully it will be an epic match.

Piste

6162 Posts

January 15 2010 02:35 GMT

#90

GO KAL! actually no.. go jaedong! (just so he can be 3-0'd by flash)

thopol

Japan4560 Posts

January 15 2010 02:44 GMT

#91

On January 15 2010 11:35 Piste wrote:
GO KAL! actually no.. go jaedong! (just so he can be 3-0'd by flash)

OK, that's a little too far. I don't mind people saying that they hope Jaedong wins 3-0 to get to play Flash. I think it's stupid (because who would prefer 3-0 to 3-2?), but I understand it. People really really like Jaedong, and people really really want a Jaedong Flash final. What I cannot fathom is how anyone would want a Jaedong Flash final to end up in a 3-0 result either way. It's beyond the scope of my understanding so I would like you to back up that statement with something, anything, that will help me figure out how you would rationalize it.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

January 15 2010 02:44 GMT

#92

On January 15 2010 11:29 Gumbo wrote:

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I do agree that Kal has its chances, but you're saying hes on the same level in PvZ as Jaedong is in ZvP?

I totally disagree.

he really is, in terms of knowledge of the matchup, innovation in the matchup, and execution. seems lately his execution is on point, but we shall see what happens

i should preface this by saying i don't think any other protoss players are at jaedong's level as far as the first two are concerned, and really only sometimes stork and sometimes bisu have execution on par

people are really underestimating Kal, hopefully this series will be much closer than people expect

reincremate

China2210 Posts

January 15 2010 02:45 GMT

#93

Kal hasn't played enough games against S-class players recently to be convincingly elevated to the same level as JD, whereas JD's ZvP shows no sign of weakness. Other than maybe Bisu (who we all remember lost embarrassingly to Shine, who although deserves more respect now, is still not nearly S-class) and maybe Movie in a few months (not quite there yet in terms of consistency), I personally don't think anyone can beat JD in a PvZ Bo5. Maybe Flash offracing as P lol... j/k.

edit: Epic hype thread by the way. Was good read :D.

Fontong

United States6454 Posts

January 15 2010 02:58 GMT

#94

On January 15 2010 11:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

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he really is, in terms of knowledge of the matchup, innovation in the matchup, and execution. seems lately his execution is on point, but we shall see what happens

I really don't believe all these people underestimating Kal. He seems to be the (T)

Light/Hwasin of protoss -- deserving and invisible. Except to his fans of course

Kal is such a great player, and just doesn't have a boatload of fans like Bisu because he hasn't won a league yet. Despite being labeled an extremely inconsistent player, Kal is solid. He has been solid for such a long time and has been posting results because of it. His PvZ stats are misleading too, despite being a near 60%. Kal never seems to get a break in the matchup, and is consistently matched against some of the best ZvPers around. Most of his wins/losses are from people like Jaedong, July, Hogil(yes he is actually good at SOMETHING, which is ZvP), Kwanro, hero, zero. With such a ridiculously tough matchlist, you can't just look at the stats. Kal is a force to be reckoned with. When S-class Kal steps into the booth, even Jaedong should take heed.

The only reason I would be sad if Kal wins this league is that I won't be one of his only fans anymore.

FragKrag

United States11538 Posts

January 15 2010 03:02 GMT

#95

All Kal needs to do is take Match Point and OddEye/Ultimatum to get onto the sacred Protoss grounds of Match Point again.

However, that said, I doubt Kal can pull it off (though I really want to him to).

Kal Fighting!!~

+ Show Spoiler [flash kwanro] +

Though I would rather have Flash vs Jaedong than Flash vs Kal...

Slow Motion

United States6960 Posts

January 15 2010 03:02 GMT

#96

On January 15 2010 11:44 thopol wrote:

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I personally want an epic 3-2, but 3-0 can be amazing series (see bisu savior, july best). Both of those series was better than 3-2 JD and bisu in gom.

Plus with a 3-0 there is bound to be a TL shitstorm and a whole lot of sweet fanboy tears.

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

January 15 2010 03:08 GMT

#97

Kal has one huge factor in his favor and that is he knocked out Hwasin!

Really though Kal is a strong ass PvZer but his aggressive style is going to get torn to shreds by JD multitask. I really think the only protoss that can keep pace with JD is Bisu on a good day(not now). The best chance Kal has is to find some sick builds to use and surprise Jaedong for 3 wins. Using the same weird build more then once doesn't work on this guy so he needs to find 2 or 3 odd builds and hope to take a single game in standard play.