Flash was 10-0!!!!!!!
>:[
Alright rank, think JD should be lower (wtffffff?) but other than that agreeable.
But Flash was 10-0! That extra win is arbitrarily important!
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Flash was 10-0!!!!!!! >:[ Alright rank, think JD should be lower (wtffffff?) but other than that agreeable. But Flash was 10-0! That extra win is arbitrarily important! | ||
BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
edit:why isn't ruby even in CBNC????that's a big surprise. | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:06 Polar_Bear wrote: Everyone who has followed the scene during the last 4 month in which Hyuk went 37-7 (holy shit!!), might notice that this is the biggest rise in the history of SC since iloveoov came along... isn't it 27-4? still amazing but 37 would be unbelievable. To bad his ZvT is so bad, thats really the only reason not to put him much higher. | ||
MooCow
1434 Posts
Expected JD to be a bit lower than #2. I thought Hyuk would be higher than Shine. Nice PR tho ^^ | ||
okum
France5776 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:21 BloodDrunK wrote: i agree with most of this months PR.but i disagree with hyuk's placement.i really think he should be placed higher than shine.inspite of that everything is ok. edit:why isn't ruby even in CBNC????that's a big surprise. Judging from Plexa's explanation about Power Rank, which is actually a measurement of the top 10 players rather than the best 10 performing players in a particular month, Ruby isn't even in CBNC because he is still a huge underdog v.s. just about anybody who has some name value. He has yet to defeat a huge ace player. | ||
zazen
Brazil695 Posts
No, Shine should not be above Hyuk. Kal shouldn't be in the PR at all - Both Luxury and Movie are way more solid players displaying better results - and also Stork being above Bisu makes no sense to me, which is sad because I still love Stork much more than Bisu... I accept JD still being #2 for all that he done in the past, but things are looking grim for him. It seems that such a high position is somewhat out of place for him this month. Calm is currently a scarier opponent, that's for sure. | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
I suppose you might think that it's because Jaedong should be able to beat #3-#10 in a Bo3/5, but this is a poor assumption at this point. Please recall that Calm did beat Jaedong in the MSL semifinals. Speaking of whom, you seemed cautiously critical of Calm going 9-2, saying his ZvP needs "fine tuning." He went 6-1 vs toss in October! What more could you want? It matters not how you win, but if you win! No, no, it's Jaedong's ZvZ needs some fine tuning, seeing as how he has a losing record with it in the last month. | ||
Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On November 02 2009 00:46 fanatacist wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2009 00:42 Musoeun wrote: On November 02 2009 00:29 Jadyks wrote: Putting Jaedong on the Power Rank is nothing other than favoritism. He played like crap all month long and doesn't deserve a place on the PR. Yes and no. Yes he played kind of badly. But he doesn't have a losing record and he's still a favorite in a Best-of-5 against almost anybody not on the PR and some who did make it (hi, Kal, fantasy). I think he's a little too high (I'd put Calm over him and maybe Stork, but then I'm a Stork fanboy) but I'm not ready to argue with him making the PR - yet. If we get another bad month out of him, then I'll consider it. You think that Jaedong is that high of a favorite over fantasy? I thought that their recent games in the SPL finals would at least add on to the fact that they played a decent series previously, but I guess haters will always be haters. I would agree to putting Calm above Jaedong, but not Stork. I'll be honest: I don't like fantasy. So yes, I do think Jaedong is still a favorite over fantasy. Maybe not by much (if you look at my post, my change to the PR would have JD 4, fantasy 6, which isn't a huge difference), but I really don't think fantasy's played very solidly lately, any more than Jaedong has. This month he may be 4-3 overall, but he's 1-2 against good opponents (1-3 if you count Stats' PvT as a good opponent). Jaedong in contrast is 3-3, 2-2 against good opponents. Jaedong does have an inexplicable loss of his own - to 815. They're performing about equally badly compared to their peaks, but in series play I will still take Jaedong over fantasy every time. If you make it one game, fantasy's more liable to come out with a build and win, but in series play that approach doesn't hold up as well. EDIT: While I'm at it, the biggest problem with Calm to my mind is that one of his losses was an ace game. The only ace game JD's gotten to play, he won (and essentially made one of his own losses meaningless). Look, in a sane world Jaedong would have played two more ace games than he actually has, and probably would have won both. DarkElf and Modesty? Please. That would give him a 5-3 record, 3 ace wins, 2 leagues, and suddenly #2 makes a lot more sense. I'm not saying that riptide factored that in... but it could be part of it. | ||
MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:30 zazen wrote: I'm going to call you out on saying Luxury deserves to be on this rank. For a person who just went 0-2 in MST, and 1-2 in OSL (against GUEMCHI of all people) there is NO rational justification of why he should be in this ranking.I don't want to argue with the semi-divine starcraft authorities of TL, but this has to be one of the PR's I disagree the most with... No, Shine should not be above Hyuk. Kal shouldn't be in the PR at all - Both Luxury and Movie are way more solid players displaying better results - and also Stork being above Bisu makes no sense to me, which is sad because I still love Stork much more than Bisu... I accept JD still being #2 for all that he done in the past, but things are looking grim for him. It seems that such a high position is somewhat out of place for him this month. Calm is currently a scarier opponent, that's for sure. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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[Azn]Nada
United States275 Posts
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Orbifold
United States1922 Posts
and also FLASH BACK AT #1 BABY... WELCOME HOME! | ||
MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:30 zazen wrote: I don't want to argue with the semi-divine starcraft authorities of TL, but this has to be one of the PR's I disagree the most with... No, Shine should not be above Hyuk. Kal shouldn't be in the PR at all - Both Luxury and Movie are way more solid players displaying better results - and also Stork being above Bisu makes no sense to me, which is sad because I still love Stork much more than Bisu... I accept JD still being #2 for all that he done in the past, but things are looking grim for him. It seems that such a high position is somewhat out of place for him this month. Calm is currently a scarier opponent, that's for sure. How is stork not above bisu? I don't understand this. Stork 2-0 his msl and osl group and only lost to hyuk in pl, but he hasn't played many games either. He also recently got first in IEF, which Bisu didn't even make out of his group. And bisu lost to SHINE. Thats pretty disgraceful. Stork also went up against a zerg in his group and he won even though he probably was practicing against skyhigh most of the time. And jaedong #2 is too high, #3 or 4 fits him. On November 02 2009 02:32 Musoeun wrote: EDIT: While I'm at it, the biggest problem with Calm to my mind is that one of his losses was an ace game. The only ace game JD's gotten to play, he won (and essentially made one of his own losses meaningless). Look, in a sane world Jaedong would have played two more ace games than he actually has, and probably would have won both. DarkElf and Modesty? Please. That would give him a 5-3 record, 3 ace wins, 2 leagues, and suddenly #2 makes a lot more sense. I'm not saying that riptide factored that in... but it could be part of it. And PL isn't something they could of done but how they did in the few games they had. | ||
valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:36 Plexa wrote: Show nested quote + I'm going to call you out on saying Luxury deserves to be on this rank. For a person who just went 0-2 in MST, and 1-2 in OSL (against GUEMCHI of all people) there is NO rational justification of why he should be in this ranking.On November 02 2009 02:30 zazen wrote: I don't want to argue with the semi-divine starcraft authorities of TL, but this has to be one of the PR's I disagree the most with... No, Shine should not be above Hyuk. Kal shouldn't be in the PR at all - Both Luxury and Movie are way more solid players displaying better results - and also Stork being above Bisu makes no sense to me, which is sad because I still love Stork much more than Bisu... I accept JD still being #2 for all that he done in the past, but things are looking grim for him. It seems that such a high position is somewhat out of place for him this month. Calm is currently a scarier opponent, that's for sure. The reason I think he should be in the PR is because I believe PL results are more worthy of "power" than individual league results. Luxury, along with Flash, is no doubt the reason why KT are standing strong in the first position of the league. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 02 2009 01:29 n.DieJokes wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2009 01:13 JWD wrote: I strongly object to JD at 2. Because he lost to Hyuk. When you say players who beat him this month, you really just mean Hyuk, and by soundly you mean won a 10 minute ZvZ JD also lost to ZerO…and every ZvZ is 10 minutes, I don't see your point there. JD and Hyuk opened with identical builds, and Hyuk simply outmicroed JD for the win. Also it's pretty lame to directly edit my quote like that :/ | ||
MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On November 02 2009 02:43 zazen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2009 02:36 Plexa wrote: On November 02 2009 02:30 zazen wrote: I'm going to call you out on saying Luxury deserves to be on this rank. For a person who just went 0-2 in MST, and 1-2 in OSL (against GUEMCHI of all people) there is NO rational justification of why he should be in this ranking.I don't want to argue with the semi-divine starcraft authorities of TL, but this has to be one of the PR's I disagree the most with... No, Shine should not be above Hyuk. Kal shouldn't be in the PR at all - Both Luxury and Movie are way more solid players displaying better results - and also Stork being above Bisu makes no sense to me, which is sad because I still love Stork much more than Bisu... I accept JD still being #2 for all that he done in the past, but things are looking grim for him. It seems that such a high position is somewhat out of place for him this month. Calm is currently a scarier opponent, that's for sure. The reason I think he should be in the PR is because I believe PL results are more worthy of "power" than individual league results. Luxury, along with Flash, is no doubt the reason why KT are standing strong in the first position of the league. What the fuck are you talking about? Individual leagues are HUGE and they contribute greatly to who gets into the pr. | ||
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