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0x64
Finland4510 Posts
On July 12 2024 18:18 Silvanel wrote: Sholtz doesn't seem to mind and is still against using German made weapons inside Russia. Yeah for sure, but NATO currently has to work and define what constitutes an act of war by Russia. Is it the amount of person killed, is it the importance of the person, is it the weapon used? | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4672 Posts
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Yurie
11638 Posts
https://splash247.com/ukraine-grain-exports-leap-in-the-year-since-shipping-deal-with-russia-expired/ An interesting consequence of the Red Sea might be a switch of China transports via Russia's north coast. Giving them more global soft power and another source of income. | ||
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Hvvacha
82 Posts
On June 20 2024 02:20 Excludos wrote: The lack of self reflection is absolutely astounding to me. Would you be piping the same tone if Russia was the country that was unjustly invaded? And US just said "If you lay down your arms, demilitarize, and don't join any alliances, we'll let you keep Moscow (for now wink wink nudge nudge)"? Ukraine was justly invaded, there is a video from 1990s of Biden himself saying that the Baltics could be invaded if they join NATO, what to speak of Ukraine. Russia swallowed it then, but not anymore, by 2030 Russia will annex the Baltics. https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1501223357701890054 | ||
KwarK
United States41635 Posts
On July 22 2024 10:41 Hvvacha wrote: Ukraine was justly invaded, there is a video from 1990s of Biden himself saying that the Baltics could be invaded if they join NATO, what to speak of Ukraine. Russia swallowed it then, but not anymore, by 2030 Russia will annex the Baltics. https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1501223357701890054 Russia doesn’t have the strongest army in Ukraine. | ||
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Hvvacha
82 Posts
On July 22 2024 10:58 KwarK wrote: Russia doesn’t have the strongest army in Ukraine. Nice 2022 joke, though reality is Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in the entire war, despite having the single most potent ground force of the West that has adopted more NATO standards than many NATO members combined and that was supposed to have conquered Crimea, that is according to a former US military advisor to Ukraine since 2014. | ||
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KwarK
United States41635 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:06 Hvvacha wrote: Nice 2022 joke, though reality is Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in the entire war, despite having the single most potent ground force of the West that was supposed to have conquered Crimea, that is according to a former US military advisor to Ukraine since 2014. Ukraine won the battle for the Black Sea. The Russian blockade was broken, the fleet sunk. Try again. | ||
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Hvvacha
82 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:08 KwarK wrote: Ukraine won the battle for the Black Sea. The Russian blockade was broken, the fleet sunk. Try again. Oh, guess that's why Black Sea fleet pummels entire Ukraine down to a EU border with impunity. Not a single Russian ship that was moved to the Black Sea since the 2014 annexation of Crimea was hit by Ukraine, you realize that right? Only decommissioned scrap for PR victory. User was banned for this post. | ||
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KwarK
United States41635 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:12 Hvvacha wrote: Oh, guess that's why Black Sea fleet pummels entire Ukraine down to a EU border with impunity. Not a single Russian ship that was moved to the Black Sea since the 2014 annexation of Crimea was hit by Ukraine, you realize that right? Only decommissioned scrap for PR victory. Lol | ||
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Gahlo
United States35072 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom792 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:12 Hvvacha wrote: Oh, guess that's why Black Sea fleet pummels entire Ukraine down to a EU border with impunity. Not a single Russian ship that was moved to the Black Sea since the 2014 annexation of Crimea was hit by Ukraine, you realize that right? Only decommissioned scrap for PR victory. Next you'll be telling us that Russia has an aircraft carrier capable of floating... | ||
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Dan HH
Romania8974 Posts
On July 22 2024 10:41 Hvvacha wrote: Ukraine was justly invaded, there is a video from 1990s of Biden himself saying that the Baltics could be invaded if they join NATO, what to speak of Ukraine. Russia swallowed it then, but not anymore, by 2030 Russia will annex the Baltics. https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1501223357701890054 Ah yes, if someone says your psycho boyfriend will beat you if you try to leave him and then you leave him and he beats you, that means it was "just". | ||
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Excludos
Norway7919 Posts
On July 22 2024 10:41 Hvvacha wrote: Ukraine was justly invaded, there is a video from 1990s of Biden himself saying that the Baltics could be invaded if they join NATO, what to speak of Ukraine. Russia swallowed it then, but not anymore, by 2030 Russia will annex the Baltics. https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1501223357701890054 Ukraine didn't join NATO tho. In fact, they specifically pulled out of doing it because Russia demanded it. Their reward was being invaded. How is that "just"? | ||
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Excludos
Norway7919 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:06 Hvvacha wrote: Nice 2022 joke, though reality is Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in the entire war, despite having the single most potent ground force of the West that has adopted more NATO standards than many NATO members combined and that was supposed to have conquered Crimea, that is according to a former US military advisor to Ukraine since 2014. And what do you mean "not won a single battle"? The borders haven't moved in any significant way in either direction, but Russia has 3-4 times the losses. Does that signify winning to you? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17726 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:13 Yurie wrote: Interesting that Ukrainian grain exports increased due to the stop of the grain deal. https://splash247.com/ukraine-grain-exports-leap-in-the-year-since-shipping-deal-with-russia-expired/ An interesting consequence of the Red Sea might be a switch of China transports via Russia's north coast. Giving them more global soft power and another source of income. While global warming is definitely trying, the northern passages are not exactly reliable shipping routes (yet), and moreover, why would Ukrainian grain ships be allowed past there? No, if the Red Sea is closed for shipping, shipments from Ukraine to China will either cease (and the grain sold elsewhere) or go around Africa. I also suspect that one of the reasons Ukraine's shipping increased is because the tattered remains of Russia's Black Sea fleet fled into the Sea of Azov and are bottled up there, completely incapable of still blockading Odesa. Russia can still fire missiles at the port infrastructure or at actual grain ships, but it seems that Ukraine is capable of sufficiently protecting them for ships to risk the route. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17726 Posts
On July 22 2024 11:06 Hvvacha wrote: Nice 2022 joke, though reality is Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in the entire war, despite having the single most potent ground force of the West that has adopted more NATO standards than many NATO members combined and that was supposed to have conquered Crimea, that is according to a former US military advisor to Ukraine since 2014. I know you're a troll, but just for the sake of it, here is a list of battles in Ukraine since 2022. There is a not insignificant number of Ukrainian victories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine Most notably: Battle of Kyiv Battle of Kharkiv Kherson counteroffensive Those seem like battles that were rather conclusively won by Ukraine. Not to mention the Black Sea situation being extremely embarrassing for Russia (and putting them at severe risk of losing Crimea, a major reason for fighting the war in the first place). | ||
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Yurie
11638 Posts
On July 22 2024 17:41 Acrofales wrote: While global warming is definitely trying, the northern passages are not exactly reliable shipping routes (yet), and moreover, why would Ukrainian grain ships be allowed past there? No, if the Red Sea is closed for shipping, shipments from Ukraine to China will either cease (and the grain sold elsewhere) or go around Africa. I also suspect that one of the reasons Ukraine's shipping increased is because the tattered remains of Russia's Black Sea fleet fled into the Sea of Azov and are bottled up there, completely incapable of still blockading Odesa. Russia can still fire missiles at the port infrastructure or at actual grain ships, but it seems that Ukraine is capable of sufficiently protecting them for ships to risk the route. The north route is mostly unrelated to Ukraine. I was more thinking China to Rotterdam or one of the large UK ports. Basically China or large multinational freight companies financing big icebreakers and the processes required to navigate it at scale. As I understand it Ukraine is underwriting the risk of shipping in the black sea. Lowering insurance premiums since they take up a lot of the cost in case something goes wrong. Secondly multiple European nations are doing mine clearing to ensure safe passage in open water. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6262 Posts
On July 22 2024 17:49 Acrofales wrote: I know you're a troll, but just for the sake of it, here is a list of battles in Ukraine since 2022. There is a not insignificant number of Ukrainian victories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine Most notably: Battle of Kyiv Battle of Kharkiv Kherson counteroffensive Those seem like battles that were rather conclusively won by Ukraine. Not to mention the Black Sea situation being extremely embarrassing for Russia (and putting them at severe risk of losing Crimea, a major reason for fighting the war in the first place). According to that (pro-UKR biased) wiki article, Ukraine havent gotten a W in 660 days. I think what the user above is talking about are battles that were not just Russian and local forces retreating without a fight. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17726 Posts
On July 22 2024 21:51 zeo wrote: According to that (pro-UKR biased) wiki article, Ukraine havent gotten a W in 660 days. I think what the user above is talking about are battles that were not just Russian and local forces retreating without a fight. Isn't retreating out of Ukraine exactly what the Ukrainian forces want? If it's without a fight, all the better! In fact, ensure they can't get another single V in battle and retreat all the way back to the 2014 border, I'm sure Ukraine will be devastated! | ||
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sertas
Sweden871 Posts
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