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On July 25 2008 10:54 DamageControL wrote: true but that does not mean christians are the only route to a stable happy life, which he implies
Apparently it's the only one he knows. Let him have it. In peace, I would add, except that he invites this kind of response (in general - not looking at any post in particular) by posting the kind of post he did.
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On July 25 2008 10:56 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2008 10:49 travis wrote:On July 25 2008 10:43 Kwark wrote:On July 25 2008 10:39 ScarFace wrote:On July 25 2008 10:36 Barbarne wrote:On July 25 2008 10:27 ScarFace wrote: God I cant stand people who think God someone how helped them.
You disgust me. "God" I can't stand people who just can't accept that having faith can help some people with their lives. You disugst me with your ignorance. And BTW, I'm a 100% atheist who doesn't believe anythig at all and never have. But to not realize how some people can draw strenght and happiness from their faith is a true sign of ignorance. I don't care if hes happy because he thinks someone is looking after him, I care if he thinks all Christians are just lovable human beings who exude happiness because Jesus Christ blessed them. It's a load of crap, hes delusional. His happiness is false, he replaced fanatical anger with fanatical faith, and the second his faith is shot in the most minor way, he will revert right back. You want your life to get better buddy? Get some friends, get a Girlfriend, get a job, patch your life back together. Don't come on a website with this bullshit about Christians just being great people because Jesus Christ is our lord and savior...balh blah blah. His God may be a lie but the structures Christianity has created in his life are real. His get togethers at Church, his little band, his absolute certainties, the regular routine, that's all real. His happiness is most likely real because like it or not, Christianity provides a good foundation for a stable life. All people need to be happy is like minded individuals, routine and certainty about the future. He has all those. but sadly this is a very bad thing it's the same as when a congressman attach bad shit to good bills so that they will pass through ez what I hate about the whole thing is that the guy is acting like he's learned things and is now a teacher, when it's clear he is no professor of christianity. When you get extremist Christians it's a bad thing. But in the placebo happy pills scenario I see no reason not to just be glad for them. I do see your point about how he's acting like he's learned things but that wasn't the core of his post imo. I was fortunate enough to have a fantastic philosophy teacher who was an Anglican minister but took his job as a teacher in a secular system incredibly seriously. He was a pretty laid back, liberal kind of guy and we didn't realise he believed in anything until word of mouth spread from somebody at his church. Well he when he was unhappy he didn't push his beliefs on anyone or at least not TL. Your minister obviously knows that being christian is not about spreading christianity forcibly.
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On July 25 2008 10:37 thedeadhaji wrote: wtf this thread just exploded in # of replies
It's a religion thread, what did you expect.
Some of you guys are hating on the OP too much. Sure the content of the post was preachy but you didn't have to read it. It's not like he was shoving it directly in your face.
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On July 25 2008 11:02 Slithe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2008 10:37 thedeadhaji wrote: wtf this thread just exploded in # of replies It's a religion thread, what did you expect. Some of you guys are hating on the OP too much. Sure the content of the post was preachy but you didn't have to read it. It's not like he was shoving it directly in your face. But some do read it, neutrally at first. I was happy for the guy. Discovered christ and all that. But this paragraph was really obnoxious
So then I joined a church where I met the nicest most welcoming people who acted like they were all family and thats when It hit me how different I was to them, how different non Christians were to Christians, and it can't be faked, you can see it in their eyes it's real compassion and love and the likeness of Christ in there. EDIT: Also this
Now I just feel right now compelled to say something, compassion for you guys, you non-Christians. Your fleeting happiness, your problems, your sadness your loneliness.
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Please don't quote it DamageControl, I can't stand reading it twice.
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Good for you. I'm genuinely glad you found your way in life, and that you're happy. It sounds like your life was really going the wrong way, but that you had the strength of character and humility to turn it around. You took a risk and pursued the unfamiliar, and you were well rewarded.
As an agnostic though, I take offense to the second half of your post, which reads pretty much as if not being christian was somehow a lesser state of existence, and that it meant not being capable of genuine compassion. I don't think this is true. I believe, and it's a belief I've developed from experience, that people in general tend to value compassion and goodness to others. I have friends who'd jump off a bridge for a stranger, if it meant saving that person's life, and they're agonistics. Christianity may have worked out for you dude, but it's not for everyone. People find other, just as valuable ways to be happy. For me, it was being part of a team environment and being around terrific friends. Like your church, it enabled me to be happy for myself and to care for others. But it didn't involve believing in a god.
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On July 25 2008 11:07 Salv wrote: Please don't quote it DamageControl, I can't stand reading it twice. The second one annoyed me more, basically telling me my happiness is not real
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Why get so worked up about it if the guy has good intentions? I'm offended but not to the point I'm going to get all POed
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lol nice who cares guys like uhmm the swedish guy or some guy with a B nickname said just click the little house icon on the top of ur browser and forget it
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On July 25 2008 11:10 ahrara_ wrote: Why get so worked up about it if the guy has good intentions? I'm offended but not to the point I'm going to get all POed To boost my post count why else?
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A few years ago I might have been motivated to post a long parody describing my enlightenment and freedom from the shackles of religion. But it would be just as meaningful and convincing to the religious crowd as the OP is to the non-religious. "Great for you, but stay away from me."
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lol how has god affect your starcraft performance?
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On July 25 2008 11:16 demo1 wrote: lol how has god affect your starcraft performance? A- on iccup now ez
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Considering how the OP talks about how he played SC in a meaningless way before he met the Almighty, seems like he's either quit or gone pro.
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On July 25 2008 10:44 TechniQ.UK wrote: As for people who haven't yet approached the concept of a God and fully made that decision or at least tried to then how can you honestly hate me because I asked the questions got the answers and concluded God was real?
Why the Christian God? Why YHWH? Why that specific conceptualization of YHWH? Have you contemplated the existence of other gods? Or the beliefs of nontheistic religions?
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i wonder how many people amongst us are religious someone should start a poll
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On July 25 2008 10:36 ScarFace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2008 10:32 Cloud wrote:On July 25 2008 10:27 ScarFace wrote: God I cant stand people who think God someone how helped them.
You disgust me. What the fuck, at least he changed? would you rather have him hating muslims and black people? Get your head out of your ass dude. I mean by the post this guy seems to still have some bad social problems but damn it at least he seems less radical. So he replaced anger with delusions and preaching to us left and right? If he made his life better, HE made his life better. Kudos. Doesn't mean everything he is puking out in this thread isn't any less disgusting, though. Hell, I believe in God...I just don't believe in the shit this guy is throwing our way, God made me happy, everyone who follows Christ is happy, tralalala. Wow, what a load of crap.
Clearly someone has a great load of anger built up inside of him. Why not relax and live your own life instead of letting a "silly" post bother you to the point of disgust. You could easily have avoided hitting the reply button or even ever coming back to this blog again. And isn't the blog section there to allow TLnetters to express themselves in the way they deem fit? The thread is totally justified and belongs here even if it makes you so disgusted.
And TechniQ.UK if that's how you really feel about your religion, that's pretty cool, but maybe you should try a less blatant endorsement for it you know? You're always going to get haters who need to play the internet tough guy, but I'm pretty sure you could have reduced the number of those negative responses if you had thought out your post a little bit more.
If you really want people to see the positives of your lifestyle, respect others and show them your kindness. You can't push someone into believing in a higher power, that's their choice to believe or not, you can only be non judgmental and accept that God, if he exists, has a plan set out for everyone and thus, you shouldn't really worry about letting everyone know about how great he is because you should already believe that God will reveal himself in the lives of each person and that it is that persons own choice to believe or not. And once again, that is, IF God exists
Be an example to others in real life and always treat others with respect and you will see worrying about who is what religion and why isn't that big of a deal.
On July 25 2008 10:27 Kwark wrote: Oh, and there's nothing wrong with lusting after women. God gave you a pair of balls and they're going to make you horny. No need to feel guilty about your own humanity when God loves you for it. Obviously taking it to extremes and objectifying women is bad but equally I'm pretty sure God didn't want us to act like eunuchs, giving us balls would have been a pretty major design flaw if he did.
Kwark serious question, because I liked your responses in this thread, but is there really nothing wrong with lusting after women? I'm asking because I seriously don't know. I mean where does lusting stop and objectifying begin? I mean, I agree there's hormones for a reason, for passion, but is passion different than lust? Lust from objection?
If those are stupid questions (I realize they are almost entirely opinion based and open ended) or you don't feel like answering them, I understand, but I thought it would be interesting conversation at the very least.
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awesome =) good for you bro. accepting Jesus really changed my life too. I mean, i was into philosophy and spirituality before that, but Christianity was the only thing that made any like, sudden amazing change in my life. actually, i want to get baptized again. har har har har!!! it was then that my life changed amazingling anyways.
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I would say lust and objectification are different. Fantasizing is fairly natural, but doing it purposefully, and with the intent of seeing the women as only a means to the ends to fufilling the sexual urge as objectification.
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