On August 15 2019 01:10 QOGQOG wrote:
I'm a big Snow fan, so a little biased, but I think Snow is stronger on the whole. While he doesn't have the titles, if it weren't for having to PvP Rain, he probably would have won ASL5 and KSL3--he eliminated the defending champions in both.
PvP: Rain is way better than everyone else. Snow is arguably second best, but it's a wide gap. Advantage: Rain.
PvZ: The last time Rain faced a high end zerg was him going 0-3 against Effort in ASL7. Snow recently won 3-1 against Soulkey in KSL3 (also beat him in ASL7). Effort is/was better and more consistent than Soulkey, but I don't know of any time where Rain actually defeated a great zerg. Probably the weakest matchup for both of them, though both have gotten better over time, especially Snow who used to always lose. Advantage: Snow.
PvT: Snow is the only one to defeat Flash, but Rain hasn't ever faced him offline. They've both had some inconsistency: Snow has a habit of getting knocked out of qualifiers by low-tier terrans, while Rain has a more back-and-forth record vs, say, Last, while Snow consistently stomps. There's some rivalry between Rain and Sharp as well, whereas Snow won easily against Sharp the one time they played (KSL1).
However, Snow is the stronger of the two because Snow has never lost a series to a terran in ASL or KSL. The only time I'm aware of that Snow was eliminated by a terran is when he got proxied by Last in a Bo1 in ASL7. Advantage: Snow.
All that said, the Ro4 matchups will probably show us a lot: they're each essentially facing harder versions of the other's Ro8 matches.
I'm a big Snow fan, so a little biased, but I think Snow is stronger on the whole. While he doesn't have the titles, if it weren't for having to PvP Rain, he probably would have won ASL5 and KSL3--he eliminated the defending champions in both.
PvP: Rain is way better than everyone else. Snow is arguably second best, but it's a wide gap. Advantage: Rain.
PvZ: The last time Rain faced a high end zerg was him going 0-3 against Effort in ASL7. Snow recently won 3-1 against Soulkey in KSL3 (also beat him in ASL7). Effort is/was better and more consistent than Soulkey, but I don't know of any time where Rain actually defeated a great zerg. Probably the weakest matchup for both of them, though both have gotten better over time, especially Snow who used to always lose. Advantage: Snow.
PvT: Snow is the only one to defeat Flash, but Rain hasn't ever faced him offline. They've both had some inconsistency: Snow has a habit of getting knocked out of qualifiers by low-tier terrans, while Rain has a more back-and-forth record vs, say, Last, while Snow consistently stomps. There's some rivalry between Rain and Sharp as well, whereas Snow won easily against Sharp the one time they played (KSL1).
However, Snow is the stronger of the two because Snow has never lost a series to a terran in ASL or KSL. The only time I'm aware of that Snow was eliminated by a terran is when he got proxied by Last in a Bo1 in ASL7. Advantage: Snow.
All that said, the Ro4 matchups will probably show us a lot: they're each essentially facing harder versions of the other's Ro8 matches.
Yeah that analysis seems pretty apt. Rain is undoubtedly the best PvPer of the era. Snow seems to have the best PvT (I'd put rain at a close second). Both can have incredibly strong PvZ but are also inconsistent in it (which basically goes for mini as well, who actually might have the strongest pvz when he's not tilted, at least until Bisu gets back in shape).