So any thoughts about Larian doing it? Personally i hope the graphic style more resembles original BG games than Original Sins (i liked both OS games but in my opinion something closer to orignal style would be much more fitting). Anyway i am hopeful and pumped.
Edit: Illithids as a main theme - i dont know how to feel about that yet...
While I am not a fan of the ilithid theme (yet), there is no developer that I would trust to make a better BG3 than Larian, and that includes today's Bioware. DoS2 is a fucking brilliant RPG, I am 100% sure they are gonna do a great job making a worthy successor, plus they got the time and the money to make the perfect version of their game
Well Larian is one of the two-three currently exisiting studios i would trust to not tottaly drop the ball on this (the others are Obsidian and CD Projekt) so like i said i am hopeful myself. I just dont want it to be OS:3 but real BG:3 so combination of Obsidian Gryphics (and maybe mechanics), CD Projects side quest writing level, Larian level of music and main plot writing. BG3 deserves something like that.
I'm having a bit trouble figuring out how they're going to connect it to the original series. The original story arc is as complete as it gets. I guess you can drop in some familiar characters and items, but that's probably it.
It seems like they're using the city of Baldur's Gate, but I don't think Baldur's Gate ever was about the city. The city was probably the least polished part of the original and rarely mentioned in the 2nd one.
On June 07 2019 03:17 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: While I am not a fan of the ilithid theme (yet), there is no developer that I would trust to make a better BG3 than Larian, and that includes today's Bioware. DoS2 is a fucking brilliant RPG, I am 100% sure they are gonna do a great job making a worthy successor, plus they got the time and the money to make the perfect version of their game
inXile? (Torment - Tide of Numenera, Wasteland) Obsidian? (Pillars of Eternity 1 & 2, KOTOR2, Tyranny) Thinking about it, I would like Obsidian to do that more, just because how dark the PoE was, but I don't mind these guys doing it either.
Anyway, Cthulhu in a BG game? I'm sold.
On June 07 2019 04:48 Bacillus wrote: I'm having a bit trouble figuring out how they're going to connect it to the original series. The original story arc is as complete as it gets. I guess you can drop in some familiar characters and items, but that's probably it.
It seems like they're using the city of Baldur's Gate, but I don't think Baldur's Gate ever was about the city. The city was probably the least polished part of the original and rarely mentioned in the 2nd one.
It should be 100 years later after BG2. So IMO no connection unless they allow necromancy
Ilithids with a dark lovecraftian theme could be amazing. About how they would tie it to last Baldur's gates, i hope they don't, and the 3 is only in name, where we only get some cameos and stuff from the originals.
If there is a company that can do something like this is Larian imo.
I wish this trend with games and movies would end. I could really use some new titles instead of constantly rehashing old franchises and milking the nostalgia.
On June 07 2019 06:46 Manit0u wrote: I wish this trend with games and movies would end. I could really use some new titles instead of constantly rehashing old franchises and milking the nostalgia.
I wouldn't mind it if they really did justice to the franchises by creating a new classic. But time after time it ends up as a mediocre game/movie that is completely forgettable if not for name stealing. So yeah I agree, wish it would end too. Cynical money grabbing at its worst.
I thought for a while that Beamdog was going to pick up the pieces of the cancelled Baldur's Gate 3: The Black Hound or use a few story threads and go their own direction with it. inXile was the other developer I assumed might eventually tackle a new Baldur's Gate CRPG, maybe with some of the D&D Next/5e BG adventures instead of the original CRPGs. Maybe only because they had done the Numenera game and a few of the writers were original Planescape creators and adventure designers. Larian should do a great job, though. I hope they've taken a lot of notes from Owlcat's Pathfinder: Kingmaker CRPG and, of course, loads of other games including their own. *Actually, I think the cancelled BG3 was going to be more connected to IWD2 or even the Dark Alliance series? It's been so long since I've been into any of those, I can't quite remember...
The first time I saw the city overview was from the 5e adventure Descent into Avernus reveal stuff and couldn't help but think "gosh, that sure looks CG and like it belongs in a video game..." and it's cool that I was right! When the trailer hit and I saw the soldier starting to transform, I was hoping it would go in the devil or demon direction. A mind flayer was not expected and confusing, I don't get why they went that route. But I'm happy to see a BG3 coming out.
Crossing my fingers it's interesting, most CRPGs in the last few (eh, several) years haven't held my attention for very long, I'd really like this one to. Torment: Tides of Numenera let me down kinda hard and nothing else has grabbed me except the Kingmaker game which (after many months of bug fixing and DLC adding) finally moved the bar that was set by Icewind Dale, Fallout 2, and Planescape: Torment when I played them ages ago.
I really want to find time to finish Kingmaker and go back and play and finish BG 1-2, IWD 1-2, and P:T...
Havent played Kingamaker yet but there have been some very good RPGs in the last few years. OS2, Pillars, Tyrrany (too short), Witcher 3. Its not BG2/MoB/Torment 1 but they are still very good in my opinion. New Torment kinda put my out in the begining still have to come back to it.
On June 07 2019 15:36 Silvanel wrote: Havent played Kingamaker yet but there have been some very good RPGs in the last few years. OS2, Pillars, Tyrrany (too short), Witcher 3. Its not BG2/MoB/Torment 1 but they are still very good in my opinion. New Torment kinda put my out in the begining still have to come back to it.
Well Tyranny was short because the premise was you will play it at least 3 times, preferably 4 times with different choices. Not sure if the western world is prepared for such games but it was an interesting concept.
Still some locations were beautifully drawn but felt empty. They easily could add some quests/events independent from the path You choose to add content. Especially the Oldwalls and Spieres could have been expanded easilly.
On June 07 2019 06:46 Manit0u wrote: I wish this trend with games and movies would end. I could really use some new titles instead of constantly rehashing old franchises and milking the nostalgia.
Then I hope you are already playing Pathfinder: Kingmaker as it is not based on old franchise but it is equally awesome.
On June 07 2019 15:36 Silvanel wrote: Havent played Kingamaker yet but there have been some very good RPGs in the last few years. OS2, Pillars, Tyrrany (too short), Witcher 3. Its not BG2/MoB/Torment 1 but they are still very good in my opinion. New Torment kinda put my out in the begining still have to come back to it.
Then playing Kingmaker now would be perfect time as they just released Enhanced Edition and last DLC.
The Witcher 3 is one of the best games ever made, but that whole series is pretty far from CRPG territory. Although, perhaps it's time for CRPGs to have more cutscenes and up-close, face-to-face interactions with NPCs like a lot of the other styles of RPGs so they can change up the storytelling and dialogue formulae within the sub-genre a little.
Thinking about it again just now, one game I loved at the time but always forget exists is Shadowrun Returns. Never played Dragonfall or Hong Kong, or at least I don't remember playing them... I was even on a tabletop Shadowrun kick at the time, too. Is my memory just that bad and everyone else really likes them?
Shadowruns are good games i especially liked Dragonfall but i also think they could be much more than what they have been. I mean they are not AAA titiles and this world absolutly have potential for AAA game. I also spent much much more time playing pen&paper Shadowrun then i spent playing CP2020 so i wuld love something like that.
Edit: I am absolutly going to play Kingmaker, i just prefere to wait for the time when game has all dlc realesed. I dont have time for two walktroughs. Edit 2: Is Kingmaker based on any books, campaigns, theme in Pathfinder universe or is it something tottaly new?
Preorder day 1 for sure , there is 0 chance im not going to enjoy the game , will it be a classic ? no one knows but it will be a great game and i will enjoy it for sure. Hoping for some more information , i would suspect a E3 2020 game play and release end of 2020 or early 2021.