[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 20
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Conversion
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prplhz
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On November 03 2018 00:41 kitaman27 wrote: I disagree because literally any two players will give us information, considering only krogan and rayn have been elected and they can't be chosen. Doesn't it make more sense to get information AND vote for two players that have the best chance of passing a liberal policy? Now that you've read through prpl, does that change your mind about the vote? I think you made a solid point about prpl being "not ready to post.", which doesn't really make sense if you have something important to say unless you're laying a trap, which doesn't seem like prpl's style. I'm still pretty conflicted about whether I'm going to vote yes or no on this one. Any two players will give you information, but not the same amount of information. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42134 Posts
Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum? | ||
Conversion
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prplhz
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On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion. Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum? Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines. He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos. His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good. I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me. I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town. I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening. | ||
Rels
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On November 01 2018 12:03 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not really a big fan of Rels. He down voted the first pair after wanting more time for discussion, but hasn't contributed anything meaningful himself. That being said, none of the alternatives inspire a ton of confidence. I'd ask you to reconsider me, but that's your call. well, me not playing early game does not mean anything, and you should know. I precisely wanted a few days before any real stuff happening so I could motivate myself to play | ||
Rels
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Rels
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On November 02 2018 03:06 Grackaroni wrote: It just doesn't really make any sense. You're accusing me of knowingly choosing the players that appear the scummiest in thread but if they are actually the scummiest looking players then my team will just be rejected anyway. yeah this is a very stupid accusation | ||
Rels
France13466 Posts
On November 02 2018 23:38 Conversion wrote: I'm not actually going to just be anti-liberal for the sake of it. I think enacting governments is a good way to get information, especially if we are up one right now and have a guaranteed +1 liberal policy barring any unlucky draws, or if one or both of krogan/rayn played us and passed a liberal card, in which case we won't be incredibly behind and it'll give us a look into getting more information as liberals. In terms of who's the most liberal in my eyes (as in, I'd elect them Chancellor), it'd be rayn = krogan > everyone else, even if I'm salty about krogan doing nothing but calling me a liar just from how government 1 went. I think this is a very townie post. But I think you're wrong about the way to play this game. We don't ever get 100% reliable info - even 2 liberal could get a fascist policy passed with some bad luck. Passing liberal policies should be the number one objective, over taking risks and getting information. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42134 Posts
On November 03 2018 03:55 Conversion wrote: sorry-- I meant to say if this government doesn't get passed, I still think I can't vote you or HK That's true. Grackaroni i would like you to vote yes. I am -- like you -- more certain of conversion being town than prplhz but i really think this is a correct way to do this. Worst case scenario you get FFF (which also conversion will if you reject). Second worse scenario is prplhz is scum, but then you will have 1v1 against him. Third worse scenario, he elects liberal (or is town).... Meh.. if you think Conversion is town, then you should vote yes now. Always unless you are completely sure prplhz is mafia. | ||
Rels
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On November 03 2018 01:21 happykrogan wrote: As I am conflicted about Conversion I don't really have someone I am convinced is a fascist right now. I have a few people I think are scummy and I would prefer not to vote. Conversion: Lying but I reconsider him when he is presidential candidate Rels: What Rayn said + being inactive but writing some easy to make oneliners when he is in thread Examples: I think Inactivity + a few generic posts is a lot more scummier than just not writing anything Usually true, not true at all for me. Read my past games for proof. | ||
Rels
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On November 03 2018 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's true. Grackaroni i would like you to vote yes. I am -- like you -- more certain of conversion being town than prplhz but i really think this is a correct way to do this. Worst case scenario you get FFF (which also conversion will if you reject). Second worse scenario is prplhz is scum, but then you will have 1v1 against him. Third worse scenario, he elects liberal (or is town).... Meh.. if you think Conversion is town, then you should vote yes now. Always unless you are completely sure prplhz is mafia. ??? If you're more sure of Conv than prp, you should tell him to vote NO and get Conv / Grack next round. | ||
Rels
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On October 31 2018 09:57 prplhz wrote: No, I wasn't thinking about electing kita when I asked that question. Before I asked that question I was thinking about electing kita but then I changed my mind and made a post about what had changed my mind (how readability and townyness ). Then I thought that it was a good idea to elect townie people (and not necessarily super scum hunters), and I wrote it in the thread, in the form of a question because then maybe someone will answer and maybe we can talk about something. I don't think anybody in the thread had clearly expressed the thought that townyness is important, and skill/dependability irrelevant up until that point. But maybe nobody had found that necessary to point out, because nobody had had the same thought process as me which was 1) elect kita/random! (nothing matters) 2) maybe do like mayor elections (or how i pretty much every game in that I sheep a lot)? (skill and townyness matter) 3) no, the only things that matter are readbility/townyness (townyness matters, skill is irrelevant) Regardless of the kita thing, which I still think is suspicious, the bolded screams of "I am scum and I need an easy subject to talk about". | ||
Rels
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote: Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines. I dont understand what mess is that? He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos. Which post? His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good. I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me. This happened after you implied he is mafia (aka when he chose you as his chancellor- I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town. I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening. Do you think i would enact fascist policy if i was mafia? Why do you think that's the case? Rels doesn't always act like this. Rels can be afk and shit and get lynched for it, but my point on rels is he doesnt even try to do anything. The point on grack and krogan he posted on D1 was like... meeeeehhh... Usually Rels even tries to do some shit when he is town regardless of how much tim he has, but the "grack and krogan look town because they tried to figure out hitler". It is really so mehhh... Also i think Rels would want to pass the first mission if he even remotely thinks krogan is town because that results in liberal from me, or him being possibly able to identify me as mafia (which he would REALLY REALLY like to do if he is town -- look i know this is a fact because i know rels personally). Meta on byj doesnt say shit because it is just one game and if a person plays "like this" as town there is zero reason to assume it makes him town, because people WHO DO SCUMMY SHIT ARE USUALLY SCUM! Idk, in a normal game i would always lynch someone who plays like this, so i am sorry i just cant think he is town because i dont have any reason to. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42134 Posts
On November 03 2018 05:41 Rels wrote: ??? If you're more sure of Conv than prp, you should tell him to vote NO and get Conv / Grack next round. no this is suntrue. | ||
Rels
France13466 Posts
On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote: Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines. He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos. His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good. I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me. I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town. I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening. So. You think Grack is scum, but you still want your duo to pass ? That makes no sense to me. You should be thinking that he's setting you up for failure with what you're writing. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 03 2018 05:50 Rels wrote: Regardless of the kita thing, which I still think is suspicious, the bolded screams of "I am scum and I need an easy subject to talk about". are you seriously going to open up this dumb this again and not even quoting the original post, but the post where i explained the original post. you're not posting the post where i said something but the post where i said that i said something. | ||
Rels
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- easy to talk about subjects (townie people should be elected, talk about number of cards, etc.) - this stuff with kita that makes no sense at the beginning - thinking Grack is scum, but still wanting Grack / him to be elected, even though in that case he himself says he only has 26% chance to get liberal passing | ||
Rels
France13466 Posts
On November 03 2018 05:57 prplhz wrote: are you seriously going to open up this dumb this again and not even quoting the original post, but the post where i explained the original post. you're not posting the post where i said something but the post where i said that i said something. so ? Does that change anything ? | ||
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