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JimmyJRaynor
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cLutZ
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On August 10 2018 23:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote: well it shows that whatever rift existed between management and Leonard that Leonard is willing to gracefully put that behind him. It stands in stark contrast to the departing message of Roberto Osuna upon being traded away by the Toronto Blue Jays. How hard did you smash your /s key when writing that? | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On August 11 2018 05:44 cLutZ wrote: How hard did you smash your /s key when writing that? relative to Osuna's exit it is a graceful exit. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
This sort of thing is disgusting and completely unacceptable. Profanity is a religious curse. IT was using obscenity. Get it right, ESPN. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
His ESPN Real plus minus is -1.76. A few starting shooting guards are worse. DD ranks ~25th amongst starting shooting guards on defense according to this metric. Derozan's DRtg ON/OFFs are very bad. However, his replacements are average or better defenders so his very bad ON/OFFs probably over estimate how bad he is. The ON/OFF ORtg of his opponents' is 108.2//102.2. So his presence on defense is a -6. The past 4 regular seasons his defense ON/OFFs hover around -5.8. Ok, so Derozan is a bad defender. Well, it turns out he is also bad as an offensive player in the playoffs. In fact, he is a bigger detriment to the Raptors on offense than on defense during the playoffs. Derozan's defensive AND offensive #s are bad in the playoffs. Last year, ORtg ON/OFF is 109/123.8 DRtg ON/OFF is 117.8/114.6 in 2017 Playoffs, ORtg ON/OFF is 102.5/112.1. DRts ON/OFF is 111.4/107.8 I was unaware Derozan had such a negative impact on the Raptors offense during the playoffs. Any how, the Raptors getting rid of Derozan is addition by subtraction. A long time ago I wanted his minutes cut. Welp, I got my wish.. Derozan will be playing 0 minutes for the Raptors next season. | ||
Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
But, he was OUR overrated mid-range chucker :'( | ||
JimmiC
Canada22794 Posts
On August 19 2018 01:07 Nemireck wrote: I mean, I don't think it's ever been a secret that he's an overrated mid-range chucker. But, he was OUR overrated mid-range chucker :'( Id say he is under rated based on where he ends up on the top 100 lists each year. | ||
Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On August 19 2018 01:59 JimmiC wrote: Id say he is under rated based on where he ends up on the top 100 lists each year. I think he ends up about right where he belongs. Somewhere in the top 40ish range. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
in last year's playoffs Lowry was in perfect health so he can't lean on the "Lowry was hurt and so everything fell on me" excuse. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22794 Posts
On August 19 2018 04:13 Nemireck wrote: I think he ends up about right where he belongs. Somewhere in the top 40ish range. Which still would make it odd that so many call him overrated. I suspect he will do well in SA, and his "rapm" and so on will look better. | ||
Twinkle Toes
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Twinkle Toes
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On August 19 2018 04:13 Nemireck wrote: I think he ends up about right where he belongs. Somewhere in the top 40ish range. According to ESPN's Real Plus Minus or RAPM: Derozan is the 7th best starting shooting guard. This result is congruent with Derozan being somewhere between a top35 at best and a top45 at worst. This year the top 10 Defensive Real Plus Minus guys according to ESPN's Real Plus Minus were either on the NBA All Defensive First Team or the All NBA Defensive Second Team. The author, jeremias engelmann, has been refining the metric since its introduction and i'd say its more accurate than it was five years ago. If DRPM continues to correctly nail the top 10 defensive NBA players in future years i think it'll get more attention. I think its a good metric for identifying the best and worst defensive players. It is not very good at distinguishing an average defender from an above average defender. I think creating a metric that can measure defensive contributions to a fine degree of granularity is impossible. | ||
Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On August 24 2018 01:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote: According to ESPN's Real Plus Minus or RAPM: Derozan is the 7th best starting shooting guard. This result is congruent with Derozan being somewhere between a top35 at best and a top45 at worst. This year the top 10 Defensive Real Plus Minus guys according to ESPN's Real Plus Minus were either on the NBA All Defensive First Team or the All NBA Defensive Second Team. The author, jeremias engelmann, has been refining the metric since its introduction and i'd say its more accurate than it was five years ago. If DRPM continues to correctly nail the top 10 defensive NBA players in future years i think it'll get more attention. I think its a good metric for identifying the best and worst defensive players. It is not very good at distinguishing an average defender from an above average defender. I think creating a metric that can measure defensive contributions to a fine degree of granularity is impossible. According to your metric, it doesn't look like I need the metric to metrically derive DeRozan's metrical placement on the overall metric rating of all the metrics involved in deciding where he belongs on the metric. About 40ish, just like I said... Metric. | ||
JimmiC
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darthfoley
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Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
GINOOOOBIIIILLIIIIIIII!!!!!!! | ||
Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On August 28 2018 04:22 darthfoley wrote: Thank you for the memories Manu! What a unique and likable player. And hardworking and competitive! | ||
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