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On July 01 2018 01:16 MassHysteria wrote: I see where you are going but it seems different in this case. That reported meniscus injury was already known and it was the same injury he has/had been dealing with, it just became public. The Lakers, by law, aren't allowed to release/disclose player's medical reports or w/e you wanna call it to the public during the summer (according to Ramona). And who would gain the most from this leaking amid possible trade rumors? Ball's camp is where the signs are pointing to with the timing of this. yep, that is an interesting point.
turns out Ball is having surgery. https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/lakers-guard-lonzo-ball-undergo-surgery-left-knee/
the key line is "General manager Rob Pelinka said this week that Ball will be fully healthy for training camp."
so it'll be the kind of surgery where they cut away the damaged part and no "sewing and healing" is required. This also means his career is on the clock. No MRI is 100%.. the only way to know for sure is to go in and look directly. If they have to cut away a substantial part of his knee cartilage then he'll have a hard time playing past age 32 or 33. If he injures the cartilage on that knee again you can take a few more years off of that.
a lot of players in their late teens and early 20s opt to get the cartilage sewn up and repaired so it can fully heal 100% the way Derrick Rose did this with his 1st cartilage injury. I'm kind of surprised at Ball only being 20 they are not attempting this method. It is a longer healing time, however, it leads to 100% healing and a 100% in tact cartilage.
it wouldn't surprise me at all if Lonzo's dad is calling all the shots here.... which is really sad.
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On July 14 2018 13:36 funnybananaman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2018 12:40 cLutZ wrote: If you don't want to play Lebron at point you can just move Jordan there because he played over half a season at point. Your list has way too many offense-only players to compete with a team with 5-10 2 way players. Plus, what is the point of a defensive specialist when you can just get Scottie Pippen or Finals MVP Kawhi?
How doesn't Melo's size put him over Durant (ignoring how you seem to have missed the last 3 seasons of increasingly excellent defense from Durant)? Why not Karl Malone then?
And now, writing all this I realize I am responding to a person who has never watched basketball. Ok man im not gonna even start with you if you're really saying Jordan is a Point Guard and not a Shooting Guard... Steve Kerr was Point guard on the bulls.. jordan is obviously a 2 im not gonna put someone as athletic as him as the distributor and ball walker up the floor when his entire game is midrange scoreing with his strong legs. If u have 2 Shooting Guards playing in the backcourt yea i mean it could work like Kobe and Jordan both in starting 5 but you're gonna have some arguments between those players as to who'se passing to whom when and who's shooting the shots on offensive trips? Point guard is important to a successful team talking about a natural part of basketball and positions. Lubricates the whole offense and enables a coach on the floor type person, very important on a team. Malone i thought about putting him yea, but i just dont really like him that much and he kind of looks like a truck driver / lazy type player. Never won a nba championship also. To me he's inferior to the versatility of TD and Dirk but he was very physically strong. It's really a question of how many Power Forwards do you want on the team and Small Forwards, 5 of one and 2 of the other or 3 of each. I went with 3PF and 3 SF. Scottie Pippen also a tough one to leave off, but is he really better than LeBron (clearly no) Julius Erving (arguable but i think no), or Carmelo (probably most arguable but carmelo has the most team USA gold medals of anyone) so i dont see what Pip contributes to the all time team more than these 3 to earn him a spot in the 15. Kawhi Leonard, yeah a tough omission, could give him a spot on this team over Erving but Erving was the more entertaining and successful player imo thus far, 3x NBa champion and 2time regular season MVP. I have watched alot of basketball and Jordan would've made a horrible Point Guard hence his carreer both at UNC and in the NBa as a 2-shooting guard, aka wearing 23 for the amount of points u can score in a basketball shot, 2 or 3. Shot=Shooting=Shooting guard.
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CP3 Jordan Bird Dirk Hakeem
Off the top of my head. Im sure you can tweak it because I don't know enough about Bird's defense as to how good it was.
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Birds defense just average , but he didn’t have anyone like LeBron or Carmelo to guard during his era which was the 80s.. he probably would have sucked at defending players that tall who can dunk the lane or shoot from the outside Like cp3 at guard prolly better than baron davis I should have considered John Wall or James harden too at pg/sg or tony Parker
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The guy from the past I'd like to see now is Pistol Pete, dude was shooting deep threes while they were still worth 2 points. And in college his scoring was out of control.
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On July 14 2018 13:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2018 01:16 MassHysteria wrote: I see where you are going but it seems different in this case. That reported meniscus injury was already known and it was the same injury he has/had been dealing with, it just became public. The Lakers, by law, aren't allowed to release/disclose player's medical reports or w/e you wanna call it to the public during the summer (according to Ramona). And who would gain the most from this leaking amid possible trade rumors? Ball's camp is where the signs are pointing to with the timing of this. yep, that is an interesting point. turns out Ball is having surgery. https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/lakers-guard-lonzo-ball-undergo-surgery-left-knee/the key line is " General manager Rob Pelinka said this week that Ball will be fully healthy for training camp." so it'll be the kind of surgery where they cut away the damaged part and no "sewing and healing" is required. This also means his career is on the clock. No MRI is 100%.. the only way to know for sure is to go in and look directly. If they have to cut away a substantial part of his knee cartilage then he'll have a hard time playing past age 32 or 33. If he injures the cartilage on that knee again you can take a few more years off of that. a lot of players in their late teens and early 20s opt to get the cartilage sewn up and repaired so it can fully heal 100% the way Derrick Rose did this with his 1st cartilage injury. I'm kind of surprised at Ball only being 20 they are not attempting this method. It is a longer healing time, however, it leads to 100% healing and a 100% in tact cartilage. it wouldn't surprise me at all if Lonzo's dad is calling all the shots here.... which is really sad.
Worth noting is Ramona has changed her stance a little on the HIPAA compliance thing from that post. She was the original one who said that the Lakers were not saying anything b/c of HIPAA, but now she is publicly saying she doesn't know why they keep mentioning HIPAA when the only reason the team wouldn't be allowed to talk publicly about it is if Ball didn't give them permission to (a la kershaw in his contract).
I am personally glad they went to surgery now rather than later. Recovery time will probably be announced after surgery (dependent on repair vs removal) but at least he has some time right now (already lost enough practice time).
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Jabari Parker ... 2 years $40 million..
i think he has had 2 ACL surgeries on 1 of his knees.
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The Jabari Parker contract is a team option in the 2nd year so it's really 1 for 20m unless he takes a big leap.
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Jabari Parkers a good player smart of Bulls to try and sign him and zach lavine could build a good squad out of that. David Nwaba is a nice piece too. Ball will be a good person to pair with a hog type of player like James it will force ball movement out of their team offense.
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Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined.
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On July 11 2018 01:16 ZenithM wrote: I honestly can't see Lebron not making the playoffs. That would be so weird :D. Feelings aside, I think the Lakers can make it. If their young guys just develop even remotely as expected they're a decent team. They just have a huge hole at Center I guess. been thinking/saying for a few days now that people sleeping on Lebron getting more minutes as small-ball 5 this season. The way the team has approached big men this free-agency is a hint I think.
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On July 17 2018 00:28 BlackJack wrote: Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined. It was on r/nba for the last 2 days
Anyway, Kawhi to Raptors
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I think this little dance going on between the Spurs and Raptors is just the Spurs intentionally leaking stuff about how sky high Leonard's value is. The Spurs picked Toronto because they realize ESPN and other major US media have almost zero "Raptors Insiders" to confirm or deny the Spurs' leaks.
Listening to major US media outlets yap about the Raptors is almost comedic its so bad. Stephen A's blab about Derozan going to LA was comedy gold. Who needs to watch Seinfeld reruns with that clown screaming into the camera?
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On July 17 2018 15:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2018 00:28 BlackJack wrote: Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined. It was on r/nba for the last 2 days
I know, lol. I think about half of the posts I make on r/nba make it to their front page because I mostly post about 2 of their favorite things: obscure but interesting statistics and circle jerks for LeBron.
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On July 17 2018 23:35 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2018 15:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:On July 17 2018 00:28 BlackJack wrote: Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined. It was on r/nba for the last 2 days I know, lol. I think about half of the posts I make on r/nba make it to their front page because I mostly post about 2 of their favorite things: obscure but interesting statistics and circle jerks for LeBron. Reddit's big issue is it is populism at its best and worst. You can't actually have discussion there because any sort of dissenting view is down voted to hell.
I "broke" the flames hiring their coach story on reddit, because my buddy knew. A few hours before it was announced. I got down voted like crazy for those hours, then once it was announced I message a few of the people who insulted me and they still were mad. It's an odd place.
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On July 17 2018 05:37 MassHysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2018 01:16 ZenithM wrote: I honestly can't see Lebron not making the playoffs. That would be so weird :D. Feelings aside, I think the Lakers can make it. If their young guys just develop even remotely as expected they're a decent team. They just have a huge hole at Center I guess. been thinking/saying for a few days now that people sleeping on Lebron getting more minutes as small-ball 5 this season. The way the team has approached big men this free-agency is a hint I think.
He is for sure big enough. Any time I see him beside a center I think, damn he is basically the same height but wider. It might also extend his career as is athleticism drops.
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Centers have become smaller and more athletic. They may not have the same size advantage over Lebron that older centers used to have but they won't have as severe an athleticism disadvantage against old Lebron.
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If you see him and Dray standing next to each other its not really possible to eyeball which is the center and which is the forward.
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On July 17 2018 23:35 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2018 15:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:On July 17 2018 00:28 BlackJack wrote: Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined. It was on r/nba for the last 2 days I know, lol. I think about half of the posts I make on r/nba make it to their front page because I mostly post about 2 of their favorite things: obscure but interesting statistics and circle jerks for LeBron. I was just confused with your wording because it sounded like you personally sought out that stat and posted it here.. which almost everyone here knew is already old news from r/nba... unless you are the same person who posted it there. It reminds me of a time when someone here also triumphantly announced something which everyone saw on r/nba for already a week. Just a funny sight, that's all.
Anyway, as a Spurs and DD fan, I love if he lands in SA. But as a DD fan, I think he personally wants to stay and win a ring for Toronto. But my real take away from all this is that Kawhi is either immature, or very poorly managed, or both.
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