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I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....
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On March 07 2018 11:57 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 11:43 Holyflare wrote:On March 07 2018 11:40 Tubesock wrote: Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz? For the exact opposite reason you town read him. He calls you scummy and then says that probably makes you town. It bypasses any kind of discussion about what the exact points he would be scum reading you are and just waves it all away. Lets discuss. What do you think of the last page out of Tubesock. Do you still think he is mafia? Would you be interested in lynching prplhz today over Tubesock? list I am fine with lynching any of the bottom of my list (now including df). If I really have to comment on Tube's posts then I'll just say I like the tone of his new posts way better. They're open, calm and collecte. I dislike the content entirely. It's just a bit too hollow for me. Talks about claims, says he town reads a few people. Really non committal stuff.
The counter wagon points you raised are also pretty irrelevant when he only got like 3 votes and there's a wholw day left.
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On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....
Ill speak more specifically to better illustrate my point: I FEEL Mafia Tubesock is throwing AFK townie Vivax under the bus there. Slap a vote on him, say meta/afk and save his own hide.
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On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... you, some suspicions on rsoultin, afkers/low activity people. And as usual I don't like how fecal plays the game although I'm not sure I remember the last time I liked fecal in any game I played with him. Also I do have one brewing scum read but idk if I'm ready to address that at the moment.
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On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.
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On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
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On March 07 2018 12:20 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho
On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.
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On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.
To some extent, shouldn't I be doing whatever I can to find an alternative wagon? you even say "Tubesock do something productive" so isn't looking for another wagon outside of me "productive"?
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On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho
On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback. I meant to spoiler these two quotes.
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On March 07 2018 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:20 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.
The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI? I think she's town because she's broadening discussion without stifling it. I don't see any motivation for mafia to do that.
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I don't understand why you towned Damdred for that "Good man, it won't be me (but it was)" comment. Can you expand that please?
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On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.
Well, that's not happening. In case its not painfully obvious, the other person that's caught my interest today is prplhz. His attack on me was shit and I want to hear more out of him before I make my mind up for today.
Frankly, Tubesock just doesn't seem to be operating on a coherent wavelength to me. At all.
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On March 07 2018 12:27 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:20 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback. The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI? I think she's town because she's broadening discussion without stifling it. I don't see any motivation for mafia to do that. Are you even reading the quotes I'm linking...?
On March 07 2018 12:23 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope. To some extent, shouldn't I be doing whatever I can to find an alternative wagon? you even say "Tubesock do something productive" so isn't looking for another wagon outside of me "productive"? I asked that and I asked this:
On March 07 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...? Because I wanted to see what you would do. And while I agree with what others have said in that your tone has gotten better, you look like you're effectively just throwing shit at the wall trying to see if it will stick instead of actually trying.
Instead of actually searching for Mafia, it looks like you're trying to get on the same page with AMG to cater to him because he offered you a life rope. Instead of reading the quotes I linked you, you're asking me a question which I answer in said quotes where I specifically ask for feedback. Instead of not asking me the same question someone already has (n00bKing) and which I've addressed with someone else (Fecalfeast), you ask me it again.
I doubt you're actually trying and while your posts entering were tonally good, it reads to me atm like you're just trying to get anything to stick.
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On March 07 2018 12:34 Tubesock wrote: I don't understand why you towned Damdred for that "Good man, it won't be me (but it was)" comment. Can you expand that please? Add this question too to the list of things Tube seems like he's just throwing out trying to make stick. I'm going to leave to finish my essay I actually have to do by tonight but I want feedback from other people on what they think. If anyone legitimately wants me to explain this read though also, just say so and I will when I get back.
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On March 07 2018 11:46 Holyflare wrote: Actually df I've reread your filter and I think you're below prplhz instead. Lots of holes and pointlessness imo.
okay
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On March 07 2018 12:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:27 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:20 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback. The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI? I think she's town because she's broadening discussion without stifling it. I don't see any motivation for mafia to do that. Are you even reading the quotes I'm linking...? Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:23 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope. To some extent, shouldn't I be doing whatever I can to find an alternative wagon? you even say "Tubesock do something productive" so isn't looking for another wagon outside of me "productive"? I asked that and I asked this: Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...? Because I wanted to see what you would do. And while I agree with what others have said in that your tone has gotten better, you look like you're effectively just throwing shit at the wall trying to see if it will stick instead of actually trying. Instead of actually searching for Mafia, it looks like you're trying to get on the same page with AMG to cater to him because he offered you a life rope. Instead of reading the quotes I linked you, you're asking me a question which I answer in said quotes where I specifically ask for feedback. Instead of not asking me the same question someone already has (n00bKing) and which I've addressed with someone else (Fecalfeast), you ask me it again. I doubt you're actually trying and while your posts entering were tonally good, it reads to me atm like you're just trying to get anything to stick.
maybe I'll try to be more clear.
1. You scumread Rsoultin due to tinfoil that scumRsoultin would know that she should scum Damdred a little bit so he will townread her. Also asking for feedback. Is that correct so far?
2. I respond with "The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI?" Giving you feedback that I think it could be town rsoultin or mafia rsoultin. Then ask you why do you think it's not NAI since you obviously don't, I'm requesting more detail because what you posted so far wasn't enough.
3. I also say I townread Rsoultin for broadening discussion (moving it from me) without stifling it (not preventing anyone from saying their piece concerning me)". Do you have a response why mafia Rsoultin would do that? Like, she COULD but I don't think she would try enough to be effective at it. But she succeeded in getting another wagon started and moved the discussion from strategy/setup and me, to other reads on other people. Mafia Rsoultin could have made the token attempt and fizzled out easier without succeeding.
4. I don't even know how to respond to the aligning with AMG accusation.
5. You asked if I had arguments, points, or scumreads, but in the two of my posts before that I answered what I could already. I feel like I've only been defending, and I've already stated I don't have any scumreads.
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On March 07 2018 12:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:34 Tubesock wrote: I don't understand why you towned Damdred for that "Good man, it won't be me (but it was)" comment. Can you expand that please? Add this question too to the list of things Tube seems like he's just throwing out trying to make stick. I'm going to leave to finish my essay I actually have to do by tonight but I want feedback from other people on what they think. If anyone legitimately wants me to explain this read though also, just say so and I will when I get back.
What exactly am I trying to make stick? At that point I already townread Damdred, so now you think I'm trying to see if I can scum him by asking why you townread him for this comment?
I read it as either townDamdred excited for whatever HF has up his sleeve, and that confidence that HF won't "save" him. Could also be scumDamdred excited to know 1 medic and that it's HF so the night action might be a little easier. To me it's NAI. So, I'd like to hear why you think it's the one thing that makes Damdred town.
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On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote: This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.
AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.
The more I read this post, the less I like it.
You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like?
If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one?
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On March 07 2018 13:04 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 12:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:27 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:20 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 11:06 Tubesock wrote: Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
If rsoul were scum and "knows damdred can read her" then why would she draw his eyes to her by making him her early scumread and pushing for his lynch? Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback. The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI? I think she's town because she's broadening discussion without stifling it. I don't see any motivation for mafia to do that. Are you even reading the quotes I'm linking...? On March 07 2018 12:23 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote: I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me.... Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope. To some extent, shouldn't I be doing whatever I can to find an alternative wagon? you even say "Tubesock do something productive" so isn't looking for another wagon outside of me "productive"? I asked that and I asked this: On March 07 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...? Because I wanted to see what you would do. And while I agree with what others have said in that your tone has gotten better, you look like you're effectively just throwing shit at the wall trying to see if it will stick instead of actually trying. Instead of actually searching for Mafia, it looks like you're trying to get on the same page with AMG to cater to him because he offered you a life rope. Instead of reading the quotes I linked you, you're asking me a question which I answer in said quotes where I specifically ask for feedback. Instead of not asking me the same question someone already has (n00bKing) and which I've addressed with someone else (Fecalfeast), you ask me it again. I doubt you're actually trying and while your posts entering were tonally good, it reads to me atm like you're just trying to get anything to stick. maybe I'll try to be more clear. 1. You scumread Rsoultin due to tinfoil that scumRsoultin would know that she should scum Damdred a little bit so he will townread her. Also asking for feedback. Is that correct so far? 2. I respond with "The issue I have with the metagame thing is it's so coinflippy. TownRsou would do that, and I'd accept mafiaRsou would do that. Why isn't it NAI?" Giving you feedback that I think it could be town rsoultin or mafia rsoultin. Then ask you why do you think it's not NAI since you obviously don't, I'm requesting more detail because what you posted so far wasn't enough. 3. I also say I townread Rsoultin for broadening discussion (moving it from me) without stifling it (not preventing anyone from saying their piece concerning me)". Do you have a response why mafia Rsoultin would do that? Like, she COULD but I don't think she would try enough to be effective at it. But she succeeded in getting another wagon started and moved the discussion from strategy/setup and me, to other reads on other people. Mafia Rsoultin could have made the token attempt and fizzled out easier without succeeding. 4. I don't even know how to respond to the aligning with AMG accusation. 5. You asked if I had arguments, points, or scumreads, but in the two of my posts before that I answered what I could already. I feel like I've only been defending, and I've already stated I don't have any scumreads. I completely understand your question because it's literally the same as before just with more words. And since it's the same question my response is also the same, which is the two quotes I already gave you. I'm not quite sure what more explanation is necessary and I don't think I'm missing anything.
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