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On June 30 2016 05:04 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2016 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:On June 30 2016 04:56 Tictock wrote:So GB... On June 25 2016 09:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 25 2016 09:27 Damdred wrote: Oh emperor is interesting opinions would,be nice. i'm p sure he's town tbh. You think Moosy is defending his scum buddy Emp from his scum buddy Damdred here? That's wifom? Why couldn't he interact with Damdred? Protip: If your only explanation for every point brought up is wifom, you may be tunneled. Art A Mafia defends a Mafia from a Mafia. Is that possible or not? If the answer is "yes, it is possible", then considering Damdred is town because he soft defended EC is WIFOM. Everything is POSSIBLE. The question is "is it likely in the slightest?" The answer is "much less likely than him just being town, MUCH MUCH less likely for scum damdred to have this interaction AND not concede yet when he has to survive through 5 more lynches or something AND have very believable/sincere emotional replies AND be spontaneous and come up genuine as scum." He's never scum here. Chez is, as much as I love him, much more likely.
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I think we go with Chezinu.
I genuinely think Damdred would've conceded by now and I think the rest is decently town.
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On June 30 2016 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote: Art, the only way I won't try to lynch damdy today is if you don't try to lynch Jean today. Still waiting for the followup on this. The answer must come from you o.o I already voted for Chez you dummy
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On June 30 2016 05:00 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 04:53 Skynx wrote:On June 30 2016 04:47 Tumblewood wrote: I don't think Jean ever has the balls to act this way as mafia. I would be incredulous if he pulled off that sort of bullying into power as scum. Did you keep track of 1-day mafia? rayn was the #1 townread of everyone who turned out to be gf. I don't think its fair to disregard some1 being maf cuz if intentional aggressive or 'bullying' kinda play style being too much. This sounds like you should be considering a Jean lynch... Thats very true but it's a different case here. Jean is currently getting lynched, so he's under pressure and he's defending himself calmly. What I tried to say was more like someone who is actually pulling the strings while never ever getting pressure cuz everyone townread him from the start and we all forgot why he's even town at this point because his name never gets mentioned.
I would say there are only 3 such people: GB, TW and me. We never really got pressured at all this game but we're all getting townread. GB is confirmed vigi and I'm town myself. I'd have a very good re-read of his filter if i were you guys, even tho he's not the lynch tonight.
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On June 30 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 04:51 Tumblewood wrote: I also don't like the way that tt jumped on Jean after art brought it up. He wasn't thinking about Jean until art made a case (which was not so convincing) and then immediately jumped on him. Actually it was Damdred that brought it up. So I went from Damdred being my main scumread to teaming up with him to take down the Mayor. I'm glad that you think I'm this good as scum though. you act as if taking down your town mayor is some sort of an achievement.
I really, really hope it's just Chez and the game ends.
I'm not sure I can take this game much longer, i'll become the monster inside, I will, in the end, lose this mask of kindness, of helpfulness, of transparency and love and become the beast I really am.
you don't want the beast guys, you really don't want the beast.
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Wait
Jean
Why did you drop your scumread on Superbia again?
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On June 30 2016 05:05 Jean Valjean wrote: Also to be honest guys, this has been an extremely high level mafia game. so far. Even now people are actively trying to figure out the game and arguing with each other in a manner that makes sense.
Like, take it as a compliment, you're all doing a great job, better than I've been admitting.
I will... but this also feels like pandering...
Eh I wont be terribly upset if Chez gets lynched but I like my vote where it is.
I'll be upset if Damdred gets lynched and flips town kus that will just mean I put a lot of effort into reading him properly for nothing.
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On June 30 2016 05:07 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:On June 30 2016 04:51 Tumblewood wrote: I also don't like the way that tt jumped on Jean after art brought it up. He wasn't thinking about Jean until art made a case (which was not so convincing) and then immediately jumped on him. Actually it was Damdred that brought it up. So I went from Damdred being my main scumread to teaming up with him to take down the Mayor. I'm glad that you think I'm this good as scum though. you act as if taking down your town mayor is some sort of an achievement. I really, really hope it's just Chez and the game ends. I'm not sure I can take this game much longer, i'll become the monster inside, I will, in the end, lose this mask of kindness, of helpfulness, of transparency and love and become the beast I really am. you don't want the beast guys, you really don't want the beast. You were wearing a mask of kindness?
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On June 30 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 04:51 Tumblewood wrote: I also don't like the way that tt jumped on Jean after art brought it up. He wasn't thinking about Jean until art made a case (which was not so convincing) and then immediately jumped on him. Actually it was Damdred that brought it up. So I went from Damdred being my main scumread to teaming up with him to take down the Mayor. I'm glad that you think I'm this good as scum though. Eh doesn't change my read on you. Just feels like your read is a joke but your vote isn't; didn't feel like you took the read seriously at first but you never said it was a joke either.
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On June 30 2016 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 30 2016 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote: Art, the only way I won't try to lynch damdy today is if you don't try to lynch Jean today. Still waiting for the followup on this. The answer must come from you o.o I already voted for Chez you dummy
Rofl ok.
You know what. I'll trust your read on Damdred in this game. But if he turns out to be Mafia and I lose the game after such great play I had just like I lost Himalaya's, I'll burn the entire Netherlands down with dead baby whales body oil I'll have after punching all baby orcas to death
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On June 30 2016 05:08 GlowingBear wrote: Wait
Jean
Why did you drop your scumread on Superbia again? a) I pressured him very hard during the night, he responded in a relatively townie way in the end. Specifically his post where he said something like "My goal is to be so right all the time that people can't ignore me" when I was pestering him to build cases and explain things. I've talked about this in slightly more detail before
b) I don't think Superbia would have made the risky fakeclaim on tictock as scum. It just feels like a really low percentage play as mafia.
c) In all fairness, the guy promised to lynch scum in his mayor bid, and has had pretty solid reads so far.
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On June 30 2016 05:10 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2016 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 30 2016 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote: Art, the only way I won't try to lynch damdy today is if you don't try to lynch Jean today. Still waiting for the followup on this. The answer must come from you o.o I already voted for Chez you dummy Rofl ok. You know what. I'll trust your read on Damdred in this game. But if he turns out to be Mafia and I lose the game after such great play I had just like I lost Himalaya's, I'll burn the entire Netherlands down with dead baby whales body oil I'll have after punching all baby orcas to death <3
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On June 30 2016 05:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:07 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 30 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:On June 30 2016 04:51 Tumblewood wrote: I also don't like the way that tt jumped on Jean after art brought it up. He wasn't thinking about Jean until art made a case (which was not so convincing) and then immediately jumped on him. Actually it was Damdred that brought it up. So I went from Damdred being my main scumread to teaming up with him to take down the Mayor. I'm glad that you think I'm this good as scum though. you act as if taking down your town mayor is some sort of an achievement. I really, really hope it's just Chez and the game ends. I'm not sure I can take this game much longer, i'll become the monster inside, I will, in the end, lose this mask of kindness, of helpfulness, of transparency and love and become the beast I really am. you don't want the beast guys, you really don't want the beast. You were wearing a mask of kindness? You don't know the real me.
Also, I did get a bit angry with you. Just a tiny bit. I may have thrown my mouse at the screen just very lightly, just a little bit.
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Fuck...
Jean why do you do this to me, i just wanted to afk the EOD while I cooked. But I read the game and how hes approaching EOD while he leads the votes is so Towny.
The way it would go and nobody wouldblame him would be to hammer me with his 2x vote and be safe.
I think it's partially suicidal but would be great scum play to play the lo g game. And I don't think that's what he's doing.
So maybe it's just chez? Maybe super
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Damdy are you around? Who are your top scums?
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On June 30 2016 05:03 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:03 Superbia wrote: What'd I miss? Why would damdred die tonight? What are the chances Superbia makes the fakeclaim on tictock as scum?
Oh now we want to talk about this?
I would have preferred some responses to my post like 4 hours ago when I asked this...
On June 29 2016 22:45 Tictock wrote: Humm, I'm gunna hold off giving this game too much thought for a few more hours, but I plan to be around for EoD today.
So I'm kinda realizing that if we are putting Jean under some scrutiny due to the possibility of an Epic Bus situation D1, then we should also reexamine Super as well since I think the biggest thing going for him is his push D1 on Moosy.
So kinda open ended to everyone, what do you think about Super's fake claim on me today?
Too ballsy for scum? Too insane for town?
In particular I feel like he did not provide sufficient pressure to me to be able to really conclude that I am not scum for not having conceded (I'm actually not a fan of how much this "well he didn't concede today, must not be mafia" logic is being thrown around today...). I've shown in other games that I tend to not give up or surrender despite dire circumstances.
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On June 30 2016 05:08 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:05 Jean Valjean wrote: Also to be honest guys, this has been an extremely high level mafia game. so far. Even now people are actively trying to figure out the game and arguing with each other in a manner that makes sense.
Like, take it as a compliment, you're all doing a great job, better than I've been admitting. I will... but this also feels like pandering... Eh I wont be terribly upset if Chez gets lynched but I like my vote where it is. I'll be upset if Damdred gets lynched and flips town kus that will just mean I put a lot of effort into reading him properly for nothing. If it isn't obvious by my posting, I genuinely care about quality mafia play. Like I really, really just want to play in games where all sides try and the games end up interesting and fun.
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On June 30 2016 04:59 Skynx wrote: Alright lets try this, who's everyone's next target if Damdred dies tonight? Chezinu ... ... ... Artanis JVJ Superbia
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On June 30 2016 05:12 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 05:03 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 30 2016 05:03 Superbia wrote: What'd I miss? Why would damdred die tonight? What are the chances Superbia makes the fakeclaim on tictock as scum? Oh now we want to talk about this? I would have preferred some responses to my post like 4 hours ago when I asked this... Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 22:45 Tictock wrote: Humm, I'm gunna hold off giving this game too much thought for a few more hours, but I plan to be around for EoD today.
So I'm kinda realizing that if we are putting Jean under some scrutiny due to the possibility of an Epic Bus situation D1, then we should also reexamine Super as well since I think the biggest thing going for him is his push D1 on Moosy.
So kinda open ended to everyone, what do you think about Super's fake claim on me today?
Too ballsy for scum? Too insane for town?
In particular I feel like he did not provide sufficient pressure to me to be able to really conclude that I am not scum for not having conceded (I'm actually not a fan of how much this "well he didn't concede today, must not be mafia" logic is being thrown around today...). I've shown in other games that I tend to not give up or surrender despite dire circumstances.
People like talking to me, maybe you should put some skill points into charm and looks so you can achieve alpha status like me.
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