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justanothertownie
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On May 25 2016 04:32 Superbia wrote: Keep thinking that son. If I was in your recent mafia game (and town), you would've lost. Of course I would have. Seems very believable ^_- | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Damdred, your thoughts now please too. Ritoky, I did your bot thing. Please do stuff too. | ||
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Superbia
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:37 Superbia wrote: Also why palmar over marv? They both are good lynches at this point but we already had Koshi voting Palmar. Also Marv did give a irl excuse for not posting but when he gets here we need to pick his brain. | ||
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Superbia
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:30 justanothertownie wrote: Because it is way too early and Palmar generally isn't a guy who let's people tell him what to do. If he had the time he would probably be posting something already regardless of his alignment. Fair enough although I still think he's scum atm. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote: Oh he did? Meh. He mentioned he couldn't do much posting at work. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Still meh. Carry on. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:37 Superbia wrote: Also why palmar over marv? Palmar was here and posted weak shit. Marv gave a rl excuse and wasn't around at all. Seems pretty straight forward. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote: His excuse was after pre-game though. So it counts less. Still meh. Carry on. Unless you want to say that marv would lie about something like this as mafia it does not count less at all. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
 Also +1 on jat's post. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 25 2016 05:02 Koshi wrote: I skipped over all the previous 17ish posts. Good thing you told us. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 24 2016 14:55 Superbia wrote: Nobody said "sup" for me at start of day. Heads will roll. Rito Filter Request of Superbia: Disclaimer: My reading of Tumblewood has led me to believe he is mafia, and that he spewed Superbia town. The following is a look at Superbia's filter independent of that information, however the ultimate conclusion of this read will be that Superbia is town based on Tumble's spew. On May 24 2016 14:55 Superbia wrote: Nobody said "sup" for me at start of day. Heads will roll. Tonally town entrance, at worst neutral; established the joke pre-game and it made me chuckle. Overall mafia tends to be bad at humor upon entry/in general. Townie question, further highlights some of tumblewood's shortcomings and the differentiation of mindsets between Superbia and Tumble. Tumble is assuming innocent until proven guilty, whereas Superbia is assuming guilty until proven innocent. Superbia's mindset generally comes from a more town-oriented paranoid mindset. His distinct dropping of this line of thought and lack of follow-up to Tumble just ignoring it leaves something to be desired, less town points. On May 25 2016 00:14 Superbia wrote: Ls wutu think of kush? Will post some thoughts after I get home and have dinner+GoT Prelude is kush is town Bad post, the attempt to determine LS's alignment based on his read of kush is undercut by giving your opinion first. If LS is mafia you have given him a window into how he can get closer to you/get a town read and if he is town than you have colored his opinion based on his read of you. Both are less useful at determining LS's alignment or true kush read simply because you stated your opinion first. On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote: The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards. I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs). Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view. Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player. And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player. Meh, town explanation of the above and ensuing discussion surrounding it. On May 25 2016 03:23 Superbia wrote: How are you reading HF, jat? Lesson learned. On May 25 2016 03:45 Superbia wrote: LS' answer did not progress my read on him that much. In a vacuum he may look scummy because his reasoning is kinda shit (imo), but LS thought process has always been kinda alien to me. I do not feel like LS' opinion/reasoning on kush makes him mafia. That being said, I believe I may have a mafia-meta-tell on LS and he has displayed it this game. I'm not solid on it being an actual mafia tell yet though. I'm looking for something more. On May 25 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote: I need something that actually convinces myself. Let me try to explain it differently. 1. Before this game I believe I have a meta-mafia-tell on LS. 2. LS displays this tell. 3. I am actually not convinced LS is mafia yet (gut), so I'm looking for something more. These two quotes are troubling, and could be mafia indicative. They both center around Superbia's meta tell on LS. Firstly he is repeating it (twice) but not indicating what it is, which to some degree I can understand but in another sense makes it more likely fake. Secondly even though it is accurate from his knowledge, he isn't choosing to believe it for a not particularly convincing reason since earlier he was saying that LS was leaning mafia. Thirdly, he desires more from LS to fully form his read. That last one is the troubling one: "I'm looking for something more" to me implies that Superbia is going to put the screws to or pressure LS for more information so that he can judge if his meta-tell is legitimate or not. So what does Superbia do? Banter with JAT, direct 0 questions or statements toward LS, and generally ignore him after this post. You think he was leaning mafia, you have a meta-tell you are somewhat confident in, and you want more information from LS; so you just ignore him? How is that advancing your read or the game in a meaningful way? This could be indicative of partners trying to establish a bus for the future. As I said before in my RMC of Tumblewood, I believe that there is almost always a mafia between Tumble and LS due to the timing and over-the-top nature of the reads they gave on eachother; in the event that Tumble is town I think there is a very high likelihood that Superbia is with LS. His banter with JAT is a waste of time, but NAI for both of them. On May 25 2016 04:27 Superbia wrote: ##RFR/##RMC/##RRU: Superbia On May 25 2016 04:37 Superbia wrote: CS:GO for a bit. Then maybe sleep. Hopefully some other people do some stuff against non-afks. Damdred, your thoughts now please too. Ritoky, I did your bot thing. Please do stuff too. Frustration with Rito Bot seems like a more natural and town response. Conclusion: Some bad and some good. As an independent analysis I would indicate that he is on the scum side of null primarily for his lack of follow-up on tumble and LS; however nothing in his filter is compelling enough to overwhelm the Tumble spew that he is town so I read him town. In the event that Tumble is town, and LS + Superbia team is a strong possibility. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 05:31 Holyflare wrote: Also the JAT Superbia fight is bs and definitely looks forced for no reason other than to shit up the thread. Superbia looking worse for just ignoring easily fact checkable information to perpetuate arguments and the fact that he couldn't understand why I called him scummy. You actually thought that was scummy? That was not an information-prod? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
#sickmafiaplays Also there was some more bs with tumble and ls which looked dodgy but I'm entirely of the cba inclination right now and ritoky actually did a good post earlier that everyone ignored. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 25 2016 05:33 Superbia wrote: You actually thought that was scummy? That was not an information-prod? It can be both but to make it easier I'll just say yes. | ||
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