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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
or weird as shit vivax weird as shit | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:03 Vivax wrote: He was like that in storm as well (as mafia), I don't know why he signs up for games tbh. In fact Trfel suddenly voting him out of all the options gives me the flashbacks. They were teammates in that game. ee, i'll check this after dinner | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:04 marvellosity wrote: weird as shit scummy weird as shit? or weird as shit vivax weird as shit I don't know. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Like, if Vivax is scum then he purposefully creates this narrative where I'm scum who flipflops an imaginary read on CC? WHy else does he call me scum in this game again On August 28 2015 04:37 Vivax wrote: I don't really feel this jat wagon, plus it's his birthday. His list of lynchables is pretty much exactly where I'm at (Trfel/WoS/Mr CC), rest feels like policy (I would add BF to that) but that's never a bad shot on D1. What's alarming is that the leaders of Jat's wagon aren't really here to reconsider with all this new information, I'm especially expecting Palmar to reconsider things, given marv's timing of the vote I'd expect him to be quite sure about his decision already, so I'm curious on that front too. I feel like Trfel has been really stiff in his play so far, contrary to the things he did as town like claiming scum at SoD he has been feeling very artificial this game. Palmar for some reason believes he's town, I want to see it. ##Vote Trfel I think this is the only post where he mentions he could lynch nme and it seems to be solely for that reason. marv you read vivax better than me. i dunno | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Like, if Vivax is scum then he purposefully creates this narrative where I'm scum who flipflops an imaginary read on CC? WHy else does he call me scum in this game again I think this is the only post where he mentions he could lynch nme and it seems to be solely for that reason. marv you read vivax better than me. i dunno Marv doesn't read Vivax particularly well. | ||
Vivax
Austria20860 Posts
On August 27 2015 17:59 Trfel wrote: Reads from Trfel! + Show Spoiler [Pointless Fluff] + Yes, the section of my post marked "Pointless Fluff" is entirely necessary. You must read it. I've been listening to this song a lot over the past few days. I like it a lot. This one too. They're good songs, listen to them. It'll improve your scumhunting. Anyway, I'm kind of sad that I'm mostly able to play when most people are sleeping. How boring. So I'll just make a fancy list post. Town Palmar + Show Spoiler + I don't have a very good record of reading Palmar in the past. But I'm still pretty confident that Palmar is town here for the way he's been driven and focused. He's provided insightful comments and I like his push on justanothertownie. His tone also feels relaxed. I know this doesn't make him town, as he is capable of having a relaxed tone as mafia, but in this game his tone is most natural when he's giving reads on (arguably) harder-to-read players, which feels much harder to fake than normal relaxed tone. marvellosity + Show Spoiler + Marvellosity is definitely capable of tricking me, but I feel he's likely town here. If he isn't, it should be more clear in a few days, anyway. Marvellosity feels more driven here than as mafia in Assassination Mafia, where he played well enough to avoid being lynched and have some thread presence, but was not above suspicion. Given how much he enjoys playing mafia, I wouldn't really expect him to increase his effort compared to that game. Town Lean MoosyDoosy + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yeah this. I don't really see much on JAT. If he's mafia, he'll still be mafia later in the day anyway. I think we should focus on Trfel rite now. On August 26 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: These posts don't really make sense. Why does he want to talk about me (Trfel), when all he wants is an answer to my question? That's not something he can get while I'm not present. He seems to realize that discussing me at this time doesn't help with anything, and doesn't mention me for quite some time.I'd still like an answer to why he asked for an opinion on marv when there was literally almost nothing that marv had posted. I feel like it's getting punted to the side while people are trying to kill JAT. I don't find his interactions with WaveofShadow scummy. But this post: On August 26 2015 23:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: is all wrong. The majority of WaveofShadow's posts at this point were jokes. He never called rsoultin out, and jokes can't really be seen as having a direct manner. The only things he directly committed to are finding scum and voting for marvellosity (which clearly wasn't a hard commitment, as expected). This post doesn't make much sense. I would like an explanation from MoosyDoosy (tone doesn't align with direct manner and calling out rsoultin when the posts are jokes).His willingness to call out rsoul and his direct manner when he posts. tone reads basically Tone seems very relaxed and seems to show a town mindset. In general, his thought process and reads match and are sensible. KelsierSC + Show Spoiler + The downside is that KelsierSC is quite good as mafia. He showed this in Gaiden 1. I like his questioning to MoosyDoosy about his townread of WaveofShadow, but he drops it before reaching a real conclusion based on this. I'm fine with this read for now, anyway. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler + I'm sleepy. A lot of it's tone, and I don't feel like his reads are too constructed/clean/correct. Though this is a weak read. Null rsoultin + Show Spoiler + I refuse to be wrong on rsoultin. I can accomplish that by not giving a read. (Plus I'm sleepy, basically always think rsoultin is town, and don't think that rsoultin is a good lynch today even if I found a few things that made me suspicious) Mafia Lean VisceraEyes + Show Spoiler + First he votes for WaveofShadow, and then decides to change his vote to MoosyDoosy based on how MoosyDoosy kept talking to WaveofShadow. On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote: This isn't a convincing case at all. VisceraEyes starts out by saying that he thinks that MoosyDoosy is pocketing WaveofShadow, but this is reasonable from town, but he gets a bad feeling anyway. Then he says that he can see something that can be considered towny may be able to come from a mafia perspective. And then he says it's better than voting for someone who is AFK.Okay so I filtered Moosy, and the reason I thought he was one of the Wave pushers is because of the sheer number of times he mentions Wave's name, but it's in the context of "I want to hear from Wave" or "Game so hard w/o Wave" etc. Based on this, I think it's actually more likely that Wave is town and Moosy is like, appealing to him or something. Trying to slip him in his pocket. Only problem with that is that he and Wave are like, TLLOLOTDT buddies, so it's not unreasonable to think that he's doing this as town....I just get a really bad feeling off Moosy. The flip on marv. Ummmmmm.....I can see that from a mafia perspective. Especially if he's not super aware of Marv's meta, maybe his partners were like "WHOA BUDDY, BETTER TURN THAT SHIT AROUND" after he posted about lynching marv. Marv's right though, in a vacuum it seems townie. Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote. ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Which results in a vote on MoosyDoosy. VisceraEyes doesn't seem convinced by his own case. And he's downplaying his earlier vote on WaveofShadow, which felt really out of place anyway. I don't understand why he voted for WaveofShadow in the first place. The strength he places in his WaveofShadow read seems to vary a lot: On August 27 2015 00:10 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: WaveofShadow Beyond that, Moosy is kinda not taking a side, which I find super strange, and there are several people who have yet to even post. On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote: [case on MoosyDoosy] Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote. ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy On August 27 2015 00:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I didn't like Wave's entrance, worst in the thread besides marv's. Then he disappeared which I find to be extremely out of character for Wave. I'm interested to hear why you think I'm focusing around him so much though, I've spent WAY more posts trying to oppose a JAT lynch and appealing to marv and Palmar. On August 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait wait wait, have you even READ my posts? I've had nearly an IDENTICAL thought process as you have based on your posts, and you're not ruling me out? Are you fucking mafia Wave?!?!? VisceraEyes transitions from voting for WaveofShadow to seemingly being surprised and not having considered that WaveofShadow could be mafia. Hopeless1der + Show Spoiler + He generally doesn't play as mafia. He was mafia last game, didn't play, and died. This game, he said he would play, confirmed, and then hasn't posted anything yet. justanothertownie + Show Spoiler + Not going to repeat everything that's been mentioned about him. But I find it very hard to get a read on him because it seems like justanothertownie is a player who is very self-confident and prides himself in always being right. Thus, when people disagree with him and push him all game, I can see him getting caught up arguing with them when it clearly isn't going anywhere, I can see him constantly insulting and throwing scum on people he later says are probably town, I can see him sort of playing like this. In the end, I'm torn. I think that his play is objectively bad, but I'm not sure if that makes him scum here. The biggest problem I have with him is that he simply isn't pushing his reads. Here's justanothertownie's filter with only the read progression (only including the main scum reads, excluding all of the stuff to rsoultin/Palmar due to previously mentioned reasons)
What I don't see is an actual push. He's said the same point about me (Trfel) many times (saying it's one of the best things in the thread), and people have disagreed. But he hasn't said much about the rest of my play. He hasn't commented on a single thing I've done being towny, but he doesn't seem convinced that anything I've done outside of that one post makes me scum. I don't see him really pushing WaveofShadow, either. He said that WaveofShadow might be the first mafia joining the push [on himself], but never said more (other than agreeing with Mr. Cheesecake's posts about him). Justanothertownie hasn't seemed very motivated at trying to convince people or push one of his scumreads. He hasn't even voted yet. It almost feels like he's too frustrated to lead an actual push himself, and is throwing some suspicion and waiting to vote with whatever people like. Which is a mafia-motivated mindset. Not making much progress on WaveofShadow, going to just go to bed. I don't really feel like I want to lynch justanothertownie right now, though that could change. Also, it's funny how nicely my reads list matches the player list XD He sheeped his town lean over marv/Palmar on his scumlean, and he didn't even mention me previously. He had a total of 3 options here and he chose to vote for me on a whim without even mentioning me in his big post. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:11 justanothertownie wrote: Marv doesn't read Vivax particularly well. Well what do you think? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On August 28 2015 04:34 KelsierSC wrote: well you're here now and you are being a fucking retard #sorrynotsorry | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
He is on my list. Before he started intentionally worsening his townplay I would have been confident that he is scum here. This way I don't know either. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:18 justanothertownie wrote: He is on my list. Before he started intentionally worsening his townplay I would have been confident that he is scum here. This way I don't know either. When did he do this? Also BF is now taunting us to lynch him. | ||
Vivax
Austria20860 Posts
My decision to include wave into the lynchables isn't just cause of a "narrative" (good way to call an assumption I made which you initially didn't answer), but also cause of above's post. This is still the biggest problem I have with Wave. He talks about anything besides me but votes me. We will see later that this is a reoccurring theme. Which is also one of the reasons Trfel is mafia. On August 28 2015 05:17 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, what exactly is the game you're referring to with hopeless? Trfel posted a link to it as well, tropical storm mini. We lynched hopeless D1 or 2 I think, then Trfel, then rso conceded. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25546 Posts
Vote Count justanothertownie (3): Palmar, Rsoultin, Marvellosity Trfel (2): VisceraEyes, Vivax Vivax (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Trfel Mr. Cheesecake (2): Hopeless1der, MoosyDoosy WaveofShadow (1): KelsierSC Hopeless1der (1): Deconduo Not Voting (3): Boxerfred, WaveofShadow, justanothertownie Currently, justanothertownie is set to be lynched. Day ends at Thursday, Aug 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) | ||
Vivax
Austria20860 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote: When did he do this? Also BF is now taunting us to lynch him. I did this for two games in a really accentuated manner, then I just proceeded to lower my activity for the first half of D1 in most games. Since then I've been able to not take off like a rocket since the start on D1 without getting lynched. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote: i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible Well, or one of them is scum. (or both lol) | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15127 Posts
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Vivax
Austria20860 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote: right vivax, but he actually posted there :/ 3 or 4 posts when I was pushing ruxxar yeh, then maybe some minimalistic posts at EoD. Doesn't seem much different from this game, he's even being dickish in both. The problem is I still can't tell for sure what he is, I have always hated the way he plays, if you can call it that way. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On August 28 2015 05:29 rsoultin wrote: lol that's a pretty horrid votecount @.@ The most horrid thing about it is you vote. | ||
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