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On August 04 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:Moosy: so angry at you. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, the way you behaved this game was super toxic. Of course, it isn't helped by the fact that you were dead wrong on that noobking godly read. And I'm not talking about only D2. If I was the host, I would have warned you D1 when you clearly stated you thought ruxxar was a stupid person unable to have smart thoughts. The way you treated people, and especially ruxxar who played a million times better than you, is sooo bad, and I'm shocked Damdred tought a warning was fine. Plus you whining about people not reading your posts; WTF, you cannot answer every accusation by "I'm mafia" and some versions of "you're tard" and expect people to read what you wrote. Furthermore, your martyring was hilarious. Especially complaining about me being tunneled. If you have read the game, you would have seen that Breshke (that was voting you along with diso) asked me whom of noobking and moosy was 100% mafia, and I clearly stated noobking was, and that if I was wrong on moosy NM was the last mafia. Finally, your post-game posts not being "I apologize" but "I won't play with ruxxar again unless he changed" is the last drop. Never playing with you again. k. I'm glad we barely interacted at all in this game too. Have fun in the future.
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Wouldn't mind the postgame chat but it's late for me as well.
Thanks again for hosting LS, did not know it was your first time hosting, so sorry if I was spewing a bit much in the obs QT on the factional/deliverable kp.
As for the modkill I was shaking my head, it was pretty dumb, obviously as mafia I wasn't complaining but to me, the way he acted just defied logic.
I've seen enough toxic personalities and tunnels just reading other games, that's all just part of the game, and Moosy, if you think ruXxar was bad, well let's just say it's a good thing you didn't play Gaiden. I'm pretty sure the moderator of that game would have had a field day with you.
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On August 04 2015 17:46 Rels wrote: NocturneMage: well play for a first game. (= Your first batch of posts were really incriminating (prepared first post + constanstly asking questions), but susbsequent ones were good! I saw on the mafia QT that you had your fake reads displayed HTS style, it was pretty cool. Really though, it showed that you were afraid of posting. You not coming back after voting scott was super bad I feel. After that, you would have been lynched at some point before the end of the game no question. Anyway, good job and I know it was partly not your fault you had to AFK too much. Hope you roll town next game so you're more relaxed. (=
Thanks. Yeah even as town I think there would have been some adjusting, and I probably could have posted maybe a little more prior to end of day 2 before work spun out of control. The voting was bad though and even when I voted Scott, I knew right away I messed up, n00b and I voted within seconds of each other.
Hopefully I can go town next game so I can actually learn how to play proper town.
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On August 04 2015 21:38 NocturneMage wrote: Wouldn't mind the postgame chat but it's late for me as well.
Thanks again for hosting LS, did not know it was your first time hosting, so sorry if I was spewing a bit much in the obs QT on the factional/deliverable kp.
As for the modkill I was shaking my head, it was pretty dumb, obviously as mafia I wasn't complaining but to me, the way he acted just defied logic.
I've seen enough toxic personalities and tunnels just reading other games, that's all just part of the game, and Moosy, if you think ruXxar was bad, well let's just say it's a good thing you didn't play Gaiden. I'm pretty sure the moderator of that game would have had a field day with you.
What confused me the most was that I all the time thought that moosy got modkilled due to the fact he asked the host to get modkilled, and not due to the fact that he insulted me.
The mod should always make it abundantly clear why someone got modkilled as to not reveal information pertinent to the alignment of the modkilled person.
The way this modkill went down a lot of people perceived moosy to be town.
And yeah, moosy is moosy. We have a love/hate relationship (love from my side, hate from his side LOL).
Also for rels: I'm really happy we got to play again. Always love playing with you. You did really well this game, always reasonable and very good reads. I felt like you always listened but was also critical of information. You tried to see the best in people and their positive side, especially from n00bking when I was tunneling hard you tried to give him a chance. It's a good ability to have that you're able to re-evaluate the game. I hope we play again with you next game!
I got a bit too tunneled, but I learned a lot from this. All my games of mafia I feel my playstyle has been completely different, a bit on purpose and a bit due to circumstances. I realized that after playing mafia I have to do a lot of my own work to make the game interesting, so I tried something different with the poetry crap(it was pretty bad I admit :p).
Anyway, you only get out of the game what you put into it, and if you're not having fun you're not going to keep playing, so I prefer to make it interesting over just playing standard
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Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb.
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On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb.
Amen
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On August 04 2015 23:33 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb. Amen I will never forgive you.
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On August 04 2015 23:06 ruXxar wrote: What confused me the most was that I all the time thought that moosy got modkilled due to the fact he asked the host to get modkilled, and not due to the fact that he insulted me.
The mod should always make it abundantly clear why someone got modkilled as to not reveal information pertinent to the alignment of the modkilled person.
The way this modkill went down a lot of people perceived moosy to be town.
And yeah, moosy is moosy. We have a love/hate relationship (love from my side, hate from his side LOL).
I told LS in Observer QT he always has to specify why someone is removed - modkills in of themselves alter the course of the game and more often imply post-game action, so there always has to be an explanation. It's first-timers' error, but he knows now.
For behaviour, be it a warning or a modkill, I also teach new cohosts that page numbers or links be cited as moderators has variant standards for behaviour and some are much stricter than others. This way other players know what is tolerated in a given host's games and what is not.
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On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb.
This so much.
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On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb. The voice of reason (= I was super angry at Moosy this morning for the "won't play with ruxxar if he doesn't change". Sorry Moosy I was harsh on you. Hope the next game goes better!
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On August 04 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote: Ty for the compliemtn rels lol.
However I think its wise for all of you newbies to realize something that the game doesn't continue after the last mafia/town are done with. There have been plenty of times when I have been super angry at Rayn/Marv/HF/Rsoulti/geript at points in the game ready to throw stuff at the screen and then we are best buddies outside the game or act like nothing has happened once the game is over.
Its all about separation of the game vs other things, just because someone acted toxic this game doesn't mean they will the next or th enext. Nor does it mean if someone didn't really play that they won't play the next etc. and saying "I'm not going to play with this person again" is extremely petty even if they were really volitle this time. Give them another chance and forget about this game we won people act dumb.
+1.
Damdred knows I can sometimes be very acidic and borderline remarks. Especially as mafia I can tend to get upset because I thought it would give the impression of a stronger opinion and try to force through my opinions.
It doesn't matter though. A lot of people called me stupid this game, not just moosy. It's a valid tactic to discredit people if that is your choice of playstyle,but not once does it ever carry over to outside the game.
If you take things personally you're going to have a problem playing this game
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Though I laughed a bit to hard at my own joke when you made that great post rux and I posted rux made god post must be mafia
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On August 04 2015 23:59 Damdred wrote: Though I laughed a bit to hard at my own joke when you made that great post rux and I posted rux made god post must be mafia l0l best post ever.
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1 hour 15 minutes till the post game Teamspeak Chat guys!
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25 Minutes till the post game Teamspeak Chat guys!
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Been a while since I used the TL.net TS3 stuff, might be a few mins late. =p
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I want in on this but I'll be about 30m late :/
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Teamspeak 3 channel TL Mafia Movie Night when you guys decide to join us!
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Finally went out drinking, will be here in a like 15 minutes! See you if you're still there
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