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On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.
Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point.
What's your read on the dude?
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On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.
HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?
You're new-ish to TL (and mafia in general? I don't know) my approach is if I feel soemting is scummy I question it, and I generally question things I don't understand or find scummy or make comparisons, etc - it's possible that townies - especially newbies - do scummy things as well. I look and someone and I try to resolve those differences/scumreads etc and if I can't or think there's too much evidence you are scum or find you or a single person the scummiest of those I'm looking at, then I think you should be lynched.
This conversation is elongated because 1) you've been out of thread for periods of a time - not indicatative imo, that is just how it's been and 2) honestly every answer I see brings up another question. I'm not asking for the sake of asking, particularly when I'm trying to decide between you and soemone else. That is just how it is day 1 if you are town.
The issue for you at this point is that a lot of other people are also finding you scummy and have brought up your name - not just me. You read my filter I think but if you are town and you've read my filter you may want to read other's filters and see where those reads are coming from.
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HtS: "HF, how can you think milo and myself are mafia together, that's scummy!"
HF: "It doesn't matter to me, I read people as scum independently!"
HtS: "I think HF is scummy and also milo!"
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On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point. What's your read on the dude?
I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.
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On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point. What's your read on the dude? I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.
Why the strong preference for ritoky then?
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On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point. What's your read on the dude? I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.
i dunno his last post felt genuine frustration enough for me to take him out of my poe list for today (doesn't mean i think he's town)
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I don't want to lynch ritoky unless we absolutely have to.
It's likely mafia will either NK or RB him.
If they NK him, great for us, 1 question mark out of the way.
If they RB him, also great, 1 less RB on another potential PR.
If he's mafia, we gain incredibly little information due to his contribution.
If he lives until tomorrow and doesn't provide anything useful we can lynch him.
Current would lynch list:
Rsoultin(Didn't like her derailing of HF's questioning + other reasons)
Vivax(Don't like his push on geript)
Milo(His push on LS)
I'm uncertain about Trfel atm.
There's something really weird going on with him and I don't know what it is.
I want to give him more time to give his general thoughts on the game before i take a stance, but his play so far has been terrible.
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On July 08 2015 03:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point. What's your read on the dude? I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him. Why the strong preference for ritoky then?
No idea where you see a strong preference.
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Lol this is so much worry about lynching ritoky when HTS is just like right there for you to go on.
Rux what are you doing man.
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What didn't you like about my push on geript Ruxxar.
IS it hard to understand that I think he's exaggerating some aspects of his play to try looking more townie?
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On July 08 2015 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
HtS: "HF, how can you think milo and myself are mafia together, that's scummy!"
HF: "It doesn't matter to me, I read people as scum independently!"
HtS: "I think HF is scummy and also milo!"
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comments plzzzzzzz
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everyone seems to be dodging hts like a leper
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On July 08 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:26 Vivax wrote:On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:On July 08 2015 03:20 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. Harkon I remember you being very keen on arguing against me on why I'm not scumreading Trfel and yet what your filter lacks is precisely that, at this point. What's your read on the dude? I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him. Why the strong preference for ritoky then? No idea where you see a strong preference.
The moment you started arguing about why it doesn't matter if ritoky claimed cop (which tells me that between two people you now say have equal preference you prefer the guy claiming), plus the lack of Trfel in your filter.
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On July 08 2015 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
everyone seems to be dodging hts like a leper
voted on her, i remember he giving a scum read on me early that contained more words than i had posted in the game up to that point. also she has adamantly refused to acknowledge on any level that i am the cop, which is not town. especially since i am a cop.
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On July 08 2015 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:00 ruXxar wrote:
@Oats.
Your interaction with geript here is like a flashback to the conversation between batsnacks and geript in our last game.
I like you slightly better due to the way you reacted.
I don't want to lynch you today.
Except that was more legitamate than my scumslip thing. This post just gives me bad feels man. How do you normally play mafia?
What do you mean?
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On July 08 2015 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
everyone seems to be dodging hts like a leper
Yup, I am doing this. I can kinda see your arguments but on the other hand she claimed miller and usually does not try to clash with townleaders as scum.
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On July 08 2015 03:26 ruXxar wrote:
I don't want to lynch ritoky unless we absolutely have to.
It's likely mafia will either NK or RB him.
If they NK him, great for us, 1 question mark out of the way.
If they RB him, also great, 1 less RB on another potential PR.
If he's mafia, we gain incredibly little information due to his contribution.
If he lives until tomorrow and doesn't provide anything useful we can lynch him.
Current would lynch list:
Rsoultin(Didn't like her derailing of HF's questioning + other reasons)
Vivax(Don't like his push on geript)
Milo(His push on LS)
I'm uncertain about Trfel atm.
There's something really weird going on with him and I don't know what it is.
I want to give him more time to give his general thoughts on the game before i take a stance, but his play so far has been terrible.
I agree with you on milo, but re: Vivax how are you distinguishing between a scummy push versus someone who is tunnelled (I'm getting the impression that you are scmreading him for the push) and do you have any thoughts on Vivax's other pushes?
Trfel I had as a null read until he did more but as I said, the longer he fails to post...he did say he'd be here closer to EoD....ugh.
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alright honestly, fuck this shit. 3 hours left we need a lynch, even if it is on me. no lynching is worse for town than lynching a 1 shot cop who is probably getting rb'd or shot.
if you're not voting on me or HtS I am going to badger you until you give a reason that makes me want to make that person a train instead of the two of us or you need to vote on one.
let's begin.
RUXXAR: Why are you not voting on me or HtS?
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Vivax: Why are you not voting on me or HtS?
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On July 08 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote:
alright honestly, fuck this shit. 3 hours left we need a lynch, even if it is on me. no lynching is worse for town than lynching a 1 shot cop who is probably getting rb'd or shot.
if you're not voting on me or HtS I am going to badger you until you give a reason that makes me want to make that person a train instead of the two of us or you need to vote on one.
let's begin.
RUXXAR: Why are you not voting on me or HtS?
I don't see why those are the only 2 options.
I already gave a reason why I don't want to vote for you.
As for HTS: in my interaction with her in the thread I didn't get a vibe of scumminess, more like genuine curiosity.
Haven't had time read her filter in detail but that's my initial feelings.
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