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On July 01 2015 00:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Also you need to realize, if I was mafia, why would I save GB day one if I was mafia? He was able to figure out that Mig was mafia for day 4 lynch? Like please use logic. GB even knew I was town and that's cause we've played three games in a row already, he obviously knows my meta already - where LS keeps trying to push my lynch with no reasons behind it and also voted for GB even though Rsoul said not to. LS even says he can't figure out my meta, but it's obvious that I'm town. Now let's look at Onegu who pushed LS up until Day 4. Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring. So I have found the scum team. RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred. I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read... He's obviously scum, he's pointing out obvious town is the scum team, like what kind of shit is that?
I don't believe for one second that you saved GB because you believed he was town.
Like, you only switched your vote when people actually called you out for voting on him.
And you give like 3 different reasons for switching your votes.
Some of them you didn't even believe in, you just went along with them because "you wanted to try it out".
Then you shift the blame away from yourself because hey "It was GB's stupid idea, not mine!"
And then you have the gall to show up and lecture us because you "saved" GB, as if you were fighting for his innocence day 1?
Give me a break. You're just trying to make yourself look good by taking credit in retrospect.
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HF - I don't need to convince you that you are mafia, I need to convince everyone else.
Everyone else - we have a RED CHECK from the CONFIRMED COP on HF. If you are town and you're not sure who to vote for, that should be more than enough for you. Don't let HF's consistent insistence that he is town fool you.
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On July 01 2015 00:23 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Also you need to realize, if I was mafia, why would I save GB day one if I was mafia? He was able to figure out that Mig was mafia for day 4 lynch? Like please use logic. GB even knew I was town and that's cause we've played three games in a row already, he obviously knows my meta already - where LS keeps trying to push my lynch with no reasons behind it and also voted for GB even though Rsoul said not to. LS even says he can't figure out my meta, but it's obvious that I'm town. Now let's look at Onegu who pushed LS up until Day 4. On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring. So I have found the scum team. RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred. I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read... He's obviously scum, he's pointing out obvious town is the scum team, like what kind of shit is that? I don't believe for one second that you saved GB because you believed he was town. Like, you only switched your vote when people actually called you out for voting on him. And you give like 3 different reasons for switching your votes. Some of them you didn't even believe in, you just went along with them because "you wanted to try it out". Then you shift the blame away from yourself because hey "It was GB's stupid idea, not mine!" And then you have the gall to show up and lecture us because you "saved" GB, as if you were fighting for his innocence day 1? Give me a break. You're just trying to make yourself look good by taking credit in retrospect.
I actually believed GB was more town than Boxerfred at that moment, what's the problem? I helped save our DT and you're trying to call me out as scum because of it? Like seriously? And I wasn't fighting for it day 1, I actually contributed to reasons why he could be scum, but he helped me make the decision much easier when he continuously defended himself and I took into consideration his POV of the biggest filter. Multiple reasons helped me decide why not to lynch GB, if you're not happy with that, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Also HF - I am the one who actually had access to rsoult's QT. So I think people can trust me when I say that rsoult was leaning scum on you, and was happy to lynch you.
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On July 01 2015 00:36 Fidei86 wrote:
HF - I don't need to convince you that you are mafia, I need to convince everyone else.
Everyone else - we have a RED CHECK from the CONFIRMED COP on HF. If you are town and you're not sure who to vote for, that should be more than enough for you. Don't let HF's consistent insistence that he is town fool you.
There are a plethora of games where people have been red checked and they were town. Pick a new angle since it's not working. You don't need to convince me no but I NEED to convince you. I am town, there is nothing that's going to change that. You yelling that there is a red check when everyone and their mother knows there is a red check is not going to change anything. People still know i'm town. There's no 2 ways about it. Being red checked means absolutely nothing.
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On July 01 2015 00:39 Fidei86 wrote:
Also HF - I am the one who actually had access to rsoult's QT. So I think people can trust me when I say that rsoult was leaning scum on you, and was happy to lynch you.
and when was this? That is quite clearly at the end of last night and that's only because she was being argued against for her shitty nk wifom point of view which was and still is wrong, there's plenty evidence in the thread which points to her town reading me
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I'm between hf and onegu as my main kills today and if you vote for ruxxar, shockey or damdred, I'll reluctantly follow (@fidei)
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I'm just scared rofl. If hf is town, he's going to berate me, and if he's mafia, RS and gb are going to berate me. Who's louder?
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Day 5 Vote Count
Holyflare (1): ruXxar, Fidei86
Onegu (1): ruXxar
ruXxar (1): Onegu
Not voted (5): LightningStrike, NydusHerMain, Holyflare, Damdred, ShoCkeyy
Clinging to the ledge, Holyflare hangs over the abyss.
Day 5 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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On July 01 2015 00:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:23 ruXxar wrote:On July 01 2015 00:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Also you need to realize, if I was mafia, why would I save GB day one if I was mafia? He was able to figure out that Mig was mafia for day 4 lynch? Like please use logic. GB even knew I was town and that's cause we've played three games in a row already, he obviously knows my meta already - where LS keeps trying to push my lynch with no reasons behind it and also voted for GB even though Rsoul said not to. LS even says he can't figure out my meta, but it's obvious that I'm town. Now let's look at Onegu who pushed LS up until Day 4. On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring. So I have found the scum team. RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred. I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read... He's obviously scum, he's pointing out obvious town is the scum team, like what kind of shit is that? I don't believe for one second that you saved GB because you believed he was town. Like, you only switched your vote when people actually called you out for voting on him. And you give like 3 different reasons for switching your votes. Some of them you didn't even believe in, you just went along with them because "you wanted to try it out". Then you shift the blame away from yourself because hey "It was GB's stupid idea, not mine!" And then you have the gall to show up and lecture us because you "saved" GB, as if you were fighting for his innocence day 1? Give me a break. You're just trying to make yourself look good by taking credit in retrospect. I actually believed GB was more town than Boxerfred at that moment, what's the problem? I helped save our DT and you're trying to call me out as scum because of it? Like seriously? And I wasn't fighting for it day 1, I actually contributed to reasons why he could be scum, but he helped me make the decision much easier when he continuously defended himself and I took into consideration his POV of the biggest filter. Multiple reasons helped me decide why not to lynch GB, if you're not happy with that, then I don't know what else to tell you.
"More town than" does not equal "town".
Right now I think you are more town than onegu by a slight hair of margin.
Doesn't mean that I think you're town.
You would've been happy to lynch either of them, and it was quite apparent by the way you were switching votes.
And why did you take into consideration his biggest filter argument when you actively argued that biggest filter doesn't mean anything?
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Friendly reminder to onegu and ruxxar that your job is to convince fidei since he needs to be voting with you or else we lose if you're town so....
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On June 27 2015 23:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote:On June 27 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred I want to ask you:
What specifically about Shockey don't you like?
Could you give me a couple sentences to understand a bit how you're thinking?
I want your own take on it.
Besides shockey, who are you suspicious off? Missed the last question Would have to be a mix of va, you, hf, oneg. Its not that I don't totally disbelieve va claim, I don't want to th I non k about balance yet though, but it's possible,he's fake claiming with mig but Idk yet. Hf is sorta a dick this game coups be scum...but red check meh Idk. Oneg is oneg My scumreads are between you and Onegu. You talk about me being inactive, but you yourself were inactive this whole game to or do you seem to forget? LS even said it, this has been my most active game in the whole database, I want you to tell me why I can be scum? Your previous scum games are so similar to this game too.
On June 29 2015 10:02 Onegu wrote:
Dont be terrible HF. I think you are town but you are being bad. Im not only reading LS scum but ruxxar also.
On June 28 2015 09:45 Damdred wrote:
Here's the thing. What about this game screams hf is the best scum player ever if he's scum.
Having his team mate sacrifice himself,for a cop during the game,and getting himself lynched next.
Super weird kills?
It just doesn't look right for a hf scuk
On June 28 2015 07:35 NydusHerMain wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I'm town reading HF lightly but since we're in triple LyLo and he's red checked, I feel like he's coin to get lynched anyways. Should we just do it now?
On June 29 2015 12:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 12:36 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 29 2015 12:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I been here I was just observing Nydus and you together HF and commented on a small detail regarding Mig and Shockeyy. What are your thoughts so far, Kinda torn I think you are town and content wise I do think HF is town but there was a red check on him and GB did say he had a green check on me. so (Shrugs) out of my tinfoil theory he could be a Miller. I can some of his arguments about the stuff regarding you but I think you are town.
On June 30 2015 09:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 09:18 Holyflare wrote:
GB makes a play that reveals that Mig is mafia. Mig would have definitely died that day instead of me, especially when the 2 masons were on him and pushing for his lynch over mine. If he didn't die that day and I died (free mislynch for mafia) mafia then need to kill the cop/the jk/2 masons and whatever else there is there.
Look at this from a mafia perspective.
Mig does not counter claim and I get mislynched. Mig would die if I flipped miller the next day without a doubt in my mind.
1 mislynch, mig 100% dies, mafia need to kill 4 blue roles with 1kp each night, don't know who jk is either
Mig does not counter claim and he dies. Mig dies, GB needs to be killed at night but might get saved, I get mislynched the next day, mafia don't have a role cop to find out who the jker is.
1 POTENTIAL mislynch, mig 100% dies, need to kill 4 blue roles and they don't know who jker is
If mig counter claims, GB dies - 3 blues needed to be killed with 1kp each night - Mig 100% dies the next day, cop is revealed as true and holyflare gets lynched because of it as ANOTHER mislynch
2 mislynches, mig 100% dies, mafia need to kill 3 blue roles with 1kp each night, mybe jk claims and they know who it is
If both me and mig are mafia and he cc's gb
1 POTENTIAL mislynch, BOTH ME AND MIG DIE when gb flips cop since mig is revealed from trap and i have been red checked, 3 more blues to find and potentially a jker outs or doesn't out
1 POTENTIAL mislynch, -2 mafia, potentially find out who jker is if they out themselves or use role cop
1 mislynch, -1 mafia, gb confirmed cop and maybe doesn't die and they need to medic dodge +1 confirmed
1 POTENTIAL mislynch
2 mislynches, -1 mafia, only 3 blues to kill and jker found
which one do you think mafia takes? the one where they kill 2 of their team mates for 1 potential mislynch play on gb or the one where they get 2 mislynches in both me and gb and perhaps out the jker? I think it's quite obvious I would not allow the shit play to happen 10/10 times if I was mafia because it's fucking dumb When you put it like this it sort of makes sense. Hmm hmm hmm hmm.... .... ...
^^^^^ thinks it's correct still wants to lynch me anyway
the point is everyone in this game but you fidei reads me as town, there is an age old heuristic that whenever people read me as town unanimously then I am more than likely town, you can see how everyone in this game town reads me but they keep defaulting to "oh hf is a red check" that's the key suspicion that should set alarm bells off for you, you don't think i'm town so it's not the same but these people think i am town and are judging the thread consensus to push the mislynch on me if it gets to the point where i stop fighting or it becomes easy to lynch me, these people are very likely mafia and are keeping all of their options open
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On July 01 2015 00:48 NydusHerMain wrote:
I'm just scared rofl. If hf is town, he's going to berate me, and if he's mafia, RS and gb are going to berate me. Who's louder?
I will never ever let anyone live in peace if they mislynch me this game while calling me town just because they believe in the wifom. NEVER. EVER.
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On July 01 2015 00:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:48 NydusHerMain wrote:
I'm just scared rofl. If hf is town, he's going to berate me, and if he's mafia, RS and gb are going to berate me. Who's louder? I will never ever let anyone live in peace if they mislynch me this game while calling me town just because they believe in the wifom. NEVER. EVER.
What if I said it was the red check swaying me more than wifom .-.
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the red check is the wifom
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Or they're misguided town and mafia? And I use the term 'misguided' loosely, since obviously if you are mafia you have played very well indeed to get this many people to misread you :-)
I'm not moving my vote, and I urge everyone else to please do your duty and vote on the red check.
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On July 01 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
the red check is the wifom
Do I not know the full definition of wifom...
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it's your job as the confirmed town to read my alignment and you aren't doing that and are placing your vote in a place that will instantly lose the game
it's not just the alive people that you think are misguided, all of the nk's were town reading me and going for the people i wanted to lynch
why do you assume everyone in this entire game was misguide and instead it's not you that is misguided?
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On July 01 2015 00:56 NydusHerMain wrote:Do I not know the full definition of wifom...
"the red check could mean hf is mafia!"
"the red check might mean hf is miller!"
"what if mafia framed him and he's town!"
"i'm going to pick one of these stances arbitrarily against my own read"
you picking wifom instead of the logic of your reads from the game
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The only thing that makes me think you might actually be town is the fact that you haven't actually tried to get another wagon going yet. Which is, admittedly, a little strange. Still, it's not helping your case either way.
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