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On June 13 2015 17:24 FreezingFoot wrote:All I'm trying to say, bugs, is that although you played very well (aside being a dick to people  ) is that I was townread by my own merits and not just because you were yelled at. Also, there was a post of yours saying something like "well, he could have gambled and tried to save his partner AND looking not-scum because scum would never be so bold" That was like... Soul reading hahahaha
yeah that was my interpretation of what scum would do (and I was still very convinced you were mafia). It would definitely have been what I would've done and in the QT I would've been yelling at my teammate to stop being useless and go do something so we don't lose a member and a KP
I think you're talking about this post
On June 10 2015 08:35 wherebugsgo wrote:the other thing is that FF took a lot of attention for his antics close to lynch time and scum are generally fully aware of this. If indeed he is scum he either gambled on it saving LS and wasting the lynch, which I guess he thought was more valuable than losing a scum teammate. I would probably agree if I were in that boat and I had a scum teammate roll over and die on day 1-losing someone day 1 fucking sucks but it's actually surprisingly easy to prevent while ending up looking okay simply because most people will label you as not being scum because of how bold you need to be to do that. Since I think we should just treat FF as likely to be one of the better players in this game, even though I think his opinions all suck, we should probably take them at face value instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt. hehe 
at the time I full believed both you and BM were scum but I was starting to get convinced that maybe I was wrong about you and it was someone else. But I still did that night experiment with the read percentages cause I knew BM was scum and talking to him was gonna waste a boatload of time and I wanted more info on other people. You didn't even bother responding IIRC LOL
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On June 13 2015 17:28 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:23 yamato77 wrote:
looooooooool my night WIFOM worked
tbf though BH didn't tell me I had won until just a few hours before deadline LOL
sick plays were made that night  Boy I wanted you dead You were the first person I thought that had witchcraft. Then I moved to Breshke and Kickstart. I could never believe on batsnacks That mafia QT is a shame though. Game was totally winnable after LS died, specially if we followed my plan. But well, whatever. Btw BH, that voting plan is very game breaking. Maybe letting scum voting for people too? I don't know
Well most of the time mafia doesn't lose two silver bullets in the first cycle and they can disrupt the plan quite easily.
But yeah, the first iteration of this set-up was literally broken by a very similar plan, so it is sort of an issue.
He talked about making silver bullets factional and I do think that might help a bit in worst-case scenarios. In best-case mafia threatens to literally win the game if they know the blues so it's pretty strong.
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Your mom is difficult to decipher
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On June 13 2015 17:29 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:26 yamato77 wrote:
Eh I townread you because I was lazy
TBH I really didn't read much you posted all game because it was more difficult to decipher than I cared
I did consider the possibility you were mafia after we saw the voting results because I sorta had reasons to townread Onegu and Shockey and you had basically stopped posting but I still would have checked Onegu over you. Difficult to decipher? Like... Bad spelling?
Just weird formatting/sentence structure/diction. As a non-native speaker you don't type English in quite the same way and it takes more effort to grasp your meaning. Not a lot, just enough for it to be annoying when I'm tired.
Plus a lot of your filter was pretty bad and ragey so I have even less motivation to try to understand what you were saying. I was relying on lazy and bad meta admittedly but I wasn't that convinced you were town anyway because I knew I was being lazy with my read.
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Well, not being 100% town is exactly the status I want to reach, but I admit I thought I was looking better than you guys are saying I was here in post game
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well I was convinced you were town later in the game and so was yamato despite what he may be saying now :p
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On June 13 2015 17:35 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:29 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 13 2015 17:26 yamato77 wrote:
Eh I townread you because I was lazy
TBH I really didn't read much you posted all game because it was more difficult to decipher than I cared
I did consider the possibility you were mafia after we saw the voting results because I sorta had reasons to townread Onegu and Shockey and you had basically stopped posting but I still would have checked Onegu over you. Difficult to decipher? Like... Bad spelling? Just weird formatting/sentence structure/diction. As a non-native speaker you don't type English in quite the same way and it takes more effort to grasp your meaning. Not a lot, just enough for it to be annoying when I'm tired. Plus a lot of your filter was pretty bad and ragey so I have even less motivation to try to understand what you were saying. I was relying on lazy and bad meta admittedly but I wasn't that convinced you were town anyway because I knew I was being lazy with my read.
I see
:/ I don't know how to get my sentences better, though 
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Thanks for the game hosts. Good game everyone, flawless town victory!!!!!!!!!!! D:
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The end caught me by surprise, but I'll post a few brief thoughts tomorrow. Overall, scum lost by getting both WHs lynched in the first two days. The "let's coordinate strats for claiming blues" or whatever is great but only while WHs are dead. There was also some really bad communication and miscommunication about the N1 actions, partially my fault, partially because GB and BM got into some kind of weird pissing contest, and this caused N1 scum actions to not be what they wanted.
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On June 13 2015 17:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
well I was convinced you were town later in the game and so was yamato despite what he may be saying now :p
In a strict sense, he was like third on the list out of the 4 non-confirmed voters behind Shockey and Onegu.
We confirm one of those two that night, and then lynch the other one.
Then it's FF/Breshke and we use voting to determine which.
It didn't really matter, lol.
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On June 13 2015 17:39 FreezingFoot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:35 yamato77 wrote:On June 13 2015 17:29 FreezingFoot wrote:On June 13 2015 17:26 yamato77 wrote:
Eh I townread you because I was lazy
TBH I really didn't read much you posted all game because it was more difficult to decipher than I cared
I did consider the possibility you were mafia after we saw the voting results because I sorta had reasons to townread Onegu and Shockey and you had basically stopped posting but I still would have checked Onegu over you. Difficult to decipher? Like... Bad spelling? Just weird formatting/sentence structure/diction. As a non-native speaker you don't type English in quite the same way and it takes more effort to grasp your meaning. Not a lot, just enough for it to be annoying when I'm tired. Plus a lot of your filter was pretty bad and ragey so I have even less motivation to try to understand what you were saying. I was relying on lazy and bad meta admittedly but I wasn't that convinced you were town anyway because I knew I was being lazy with my read. I see :/ I don't know how to get my sentences better, though
They are mostly fine I'm just incredibly lazy.
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On June 13 2015 17:41 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
well I was convinced you were town later in the game and so was yamato despite what he may be saying now :p In a strict sense, he was like third on the list out of the 4 non-confirmed voters behind Shockey and Onegu. We confirm one of those two that night, and then lynch the other one. Then it's FF/Breshke and we use voting to determine which. It didn't really matter, lol.
yeah, I agree haha
it would've been enough WTF for me to wonder whether the votes got fucked up (which they did, but it didn't end up hurting us)
we actually also may have confirmed both simultaneously with RB/check and skipped straight to lynching him
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only if I pulled off another sick WIFOM night action set by claiming morph lel
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Btw, I think masoning is basically a scum claim in this setup
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I do think mafia should get more reward for getting elected, it's actually pretty hard.
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Yeah, but I meant that I think no townie would choose mason above any other ability
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On June 13 2015 17:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, but I meant that I think no townie would choose mason above any other ability
Yeah mason is pretty useless
I do sort of like the double cop checks though, it's an interesting dynamic to the game.
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On June 13 2015 18:00 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 17:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, but I meant that I think no townie would choose mason above any other ability Yeah mason is pretty useless I do sort of like the double cop checks though, it's an interesting dynamic to the game.
The setup is actually very neat! I just think that if there is a way to not let town do that awesome plan, it would get better. But I am in no way bashing on BH. It's actually the opposite: props for the creative setup and for the hosting (you too HTS)
But maybe taking out hex or roleblocking? Idk
Anyway GG
(by the way, the real reason that I smurfed was because I said I wouldn't be playing in an year if Damdred wasn't mafia in my previous game LOL)
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Sorry had a big storm today and lightning hit a tree across the street. GG
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